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Where are you in the Battle?

sermonindex Apr 5, 2006

Many Christians have no idea that there is a battle going on. Yet, when we are called, we are called to battle. This battle has been raging from the very beginning, it is the battle between light and darkness. As Christians we are all somewhere in relation to the battle and we can boil it all down to perhaps four positions. Position number one is the conqueror. This is the man or woman who arrays himself for battle and boldly faces the enemy. This person will know the trumpet and the sound that it gives. When the signal to attack is sounded, then he moves forward and confronts and engages the enemy. This position is not to be underestimated. Often times when the Israelites arrayed themslves(lined up on the battlefield) for battle, they would be facing enemies numbering four hundred thousand. The Bible calls these "Stouthearted men." Battles cannot be engaged in and won without stouthearted men. The trumpet in these situations represents the commands of God, for He is our leader, He is our Commander. Men should never mistake themselves as the Commander. This runs counter to the Word of God. Pastors/teachers, Elders/Spirtual guides, deacons/ servants are not and in no way represent Commanders and it is a common mistake today to put them in this category. Joshua found this out when he had an encounter with the true Captain of the Hosts, and fell on his face before Him, taking instruction from the pre-incarnate Christ. Every Royal Priest has to know the sound of the Trumpet. And this takes us to position number two. These are men who cannot discern the trumpets sound. Apathy has led to a break in their relationship with their Commander. Instead of seeking the Lord and guarding their hearts, they have allowed themselves to listen to intermediators. Now they rely on a Pastor or teacher to hear from God. Oh yes, these men line up for battle, but since they cannot hear the Commanders voice, they line up in the wrong place, they leave gaps in the ranks, gaps that the enemy will undoubtedly take advantage of. They look to teachers and guides for their positions, not realizing that this is the sole responsibility of the Commander and that these same teachers and guides are lining up where they are told, if they indeed can discern the Commanders voice. These men will continue to charge when the retreat has been sounded, they will retreat when the trumpet blows to charge and can cause chaos in the ranks. Position number three are soldiers who have tasted battle, they know the Trumpets sound, they have seen and know firsthand the fearfulness of battle and decided they want no more of it. These men are AWOL(absent without official leave) They have also left gaps in the ranks which the enemy will exploit. The last position is the "Draft dodgers." These men are totally absent from the battle. They have heard reports and they want nothing to do with the battle. Their fear and disobedience keeps them from engaging the enemy. They are comfortable where they are and they will not be moved. These men should be fighting, but they are not and they also leave gaps in the ranks, again to be exploited by the enemy. Who will stand in the gap today? Wycliffe stood in the gap against the Catholic church. In 1415 they decreed that his dead body should be dug up, burned, and his ashes scattered in the river. His crime? He translated the Bible from Latin(which no one could read apart from the priests) to English. Even the Latin Bibles were chained to the pew of the church so that no one could take it from the church. People got a hold of the truth from his translation and were radically changed. John Huss came next (the Hussites) He taught the truths from Scripture and rejected the authority of the Pope, arguing for the priesthood of all believers. For that, he was horribly tortured and finally burned at the stake. Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door of the church, laying down all that was wrong within the church and challenging the authority of the church. He reasoned that Scripture was the Royal priest's authority and Scripture alone, and everything had to be questioned and measured against that. For this he too was hounded and excommunicated (thrown out) from the church. His challenge to the authority of the church led directly to the Reformation, praise God. All of these men and many more had one thing in common. They all were conquerors. They literally laid their lives on the line and most of them were actually killed. Do we have what it takes to stand up and be counted? Would we be willing, like these men, to put our lives on the line for truth, to stand in the gap? Perhaps today our lives may not be in danger, but perhaps our position would be? Our position in the church, in the workplace, in the world. The only true way to find yourself in the right position, to be arrayed in the right place, to fear God more than to fear men, is to know the Commanders voice. to be able to discern the trumpets call. Guard your hearts brothers and sisters. Discover His voice, and follow it to the letter. In this way you will be mighty in battle. The church has always needed reformers, and today is no different from the last 2000 years. Scripture tells us to "beware when we stand, lest we fall." If we believe we have arrived as a church, then only a fall would realign us to our proper place.

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Logic Apr 5, 2006

EditedI agree with this but one question,where do you get these "Positions"?Just wanted to add my own insight.I say our battel is spirit or soul.Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.The spiritually minded are they that have their minde set after the Spirit and the things of the Spirit.The carnal mind is they that are after the flesh and mind the things of the flesh v:5The things after the fleash are lead from our soul and not from our spirit.1Corinth. 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one in spirit.We all are born spiritually dead and therefore we are all soulish in nature when we are born. Our souls rule our physical bodies. However, when we become born again, we become spiritually alive to Christ and no longer soulish. Our souls, then, need to be the servant to our spirits to rule our flesh in a Godly manner.It is the soul that we battle everyday, who will rule? Will it be our soulish passion to walk after the flesh?Or will it be our spirit, to life in Christ Jesus which has made me free from the law of sin and death?Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.Now, if we walk after the spirit, the righteousness of the law will be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh. v:4This would automaticaly put us in "Position number one"However, the battle is not ours, but God's.Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.Therefore, our defense is faith that God is able. Just as Moses did not defend himself but let God answer for him. God will defend us.If there is a battle, it is on the grounds of thoughts, beliefes and Ideas.2Corinth 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;If we do need to fight a battle, the weapons of our warfare are after the fleash, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;2Corinth 10:4Our weapon is the truth of HIS Word.Ephesians 6:17, b....and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:This is the man or woman who arrays himself for battle and boldly faces the enemy.What is our battle stance?Matthew 5:3-8 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.[the know that they are Spiritualy bankrut without God]:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.[Mourn for they are dead with out Him]:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.[will not defend them selves]:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.[forgiveing all sins against you]:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.[Utterly transperent, not fooling yourself]This battle stance is an attitude of our heart that must be constant, acted out every day & all day. Otherwise he will not be able to "boldly face the enemy".The trumpet and the sound that it gives is the Holy Spirits leading. So the Trumpet and the Commander are actualy the same.position number two is not totaly a bad position,it should be reserved for babes in christ.The are not ready for battle.But if a matuer Christian takes this position he is unwise or an old baby wich should not beHebrews 5:12-13 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.Position number three is a backslider or worseThe last position is a non- Christian or a carnaly minded christian which leads to death Romans 8:6,a

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brentw Apr 5, 2006

Many Christians have no idea that there is a battle going onSo very true!John Piper said life is war! There is no peace time on earth. We need to be fully alert. A pastor friend of mine heard his daughter yelling saying "dad come and see this hurry!" My pastor friend walked into the tv room and saw a porn movie on his tv....he was shocked and called the satellite company....he was angry! You never know how the enemy will attack.... We have to be ready at all times.

sermonindex Apr 5, 2006

Hi LogicI write whatever the Holy Spirit lays on my heart, not always logical :)but always Biblical ...........In the beauty of Holiness........Frank

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pastorfrin Apr 5, 2006

Hi Logic,Yes, The battle is spirit; spirit against flesh, not flesh against flesh. Also spirit against spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph.6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.Jesus said, In John 18:36; My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world,then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.2 Chron. 20:15 ( Be not afraid or dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's).Zech.4:6 ( Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord of host).You have already used 2 Cor.2:4 but its more than worth repeating,(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds;)Keep weilding the Sword brother, keep weilding the Sword.pastorfrin

sermonindex Apr 5, 2006

Who will stand in the gap today? Wycliffe stood in the gap against the Catholic church. In 1415 they decreed that his dead body should be dug up, burned, and his ashes scattered in the river. His crime? He translated the Bible from Latin(which no one could read apart from the priests) to English. Even the Latin Bibles were chained to the pew of the church so that no one could take it from the church. People got a hold of the truth from his translation and were radically changed. John Huss came next (the Hussites) He taught the truths from Scripture and rejected the authority of the Pope, arguing for the priesthood of all believers. For that, he was horribly tortured and finally burned at the stake. Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door of the church, laying down all that was wrong within the church and challenging the authority of the church. He reasoned that Scripture was the Royal priest's authority and Scripture alone, and everything had to be questioned and measured against that. For this he too was hounded and excommunicated (thrown out) from the church. His challenge to the authority of the church led directly to the Reformation, praise God. Logic, if you don't understand this, I think you ought to show it to Pastor Randles. You know "A.C.T.".The Apologetic Coordination Team. :-(

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Logic Apr 5, 2006

MeAgain wrote:Logic, if you don't understand this, I think you ought to show it to Pastor Randles. You know "A.C.T.".The Apologetic Coordination Team. :-(What did I post to make you think I didn't understand this?I was only exanding appolus' point. All I was saying is those who walk after the spirit will automaticaly hear and be lead by the Trumpet and the Commander.The battle stance that I pointed out is nasecity that must be acted out every day & all day. Otherwise we will not be able to boldly face the enemy as Wycliffe or John Huss did.Laying our lives on the line is secondary to dieing daily, because we couldn't if we didn't die daily. Do we have what it takes to stand up and be counted?No we don't, not in and of ourselves. we need what I have explained in my post.Please take my post as an Amen plus going deeper.

sermonindex Apr 6, 2006

Ha, why ask me if you edited it to fix it ?(I only speak when I'm spoken to :)Love ya Logic. Take it easy now. :-)me

sermonindex Apr 7, 2006

Hey, your right, he did edit it,ah well, I guess that means something :)(I like the edited version better:).........Frank

sermonindex Apr 7, 2006

I think he just read your post like I do sometimes. With a brain full'a STUFF and not clear headed and not seeing what the writer meant the first time. Count me in on the duh times too. I've done it. But when I see it, I just go bang my head against the wall instead.Got quite hard headed by doing that head banging enough times. I'd rather he edit it then do what I do. Head bangin's not fun and it scares the cats ... ha.Bless ya's.

sermonindex Apr 7, 2006

Well maybe logic will let us know if that is true.:).......Frank

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Logic Apr 7, 2006

it's true, I did have a brain full'a STUFF and not clear headed, but I did see what you meant.And I did like it, but I just woundered where you got those positions from?I also wanted to expand on a few thoughts from what I read from your post.

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deltadom Apr 7, 2006

I think in my Life my life has always been a battle a battle to get up a battle to do anything. I can say where I am in the battle as long as the Lord is rebuking and trampling down Satan. All I want is all my life to glorify him. I am a person who finds anything hard to do. I need prayer because I feel in someway I am always under attack the devil always wants to take you out and Jesus is the only one who knows the works of the evil one. I know i am helpless and can do nothing but rely on the promises of god even if I cannot do nothing else. I am not wiser than anybody else here but I know that I am a mess and that I need Jesus.

sermonindex Apr 8, 2006

Hi LogicAs a writer, you get ideas that are canvases for truth. Analogies are useful , just like parrables are useful. As a Christian who writes, I believe that my inspiration is the Holy Spirit. Through the word of God and the Spirit of God we learn. So, the "positions," I was talking about was just a way of demonstrating what I believe to be the state of the church. It was by no means exhaustive and of course we need look no further than the first few chapters of Revelation to see a timeless description of the Body of Christ with all its many facets...........Frank

sermonindex Apr 8, 2006

Hi Deltadom.While it is true that Christians will face a life long battle , it is also true that we must find peace and joy in the midst of it. This is the witness to the world. "He prepares a table before us in the presence of our enemies." We have a feast with our King, much like Mephibosheth, every day despite our circumstances. As we walk and mature and suffer and face trials and tribulations, we should be becoming more like Jesus. If not, we have to stop and take stock of how we are dealing with our circumstaces, and do it differently. Many Christians take comfort in Romans 7 and the scripture "Oh wretched man that I am," brings them a measure of comfort. Oh how Paul would be devastated to realize this. Paul learned, through his many trials , to be content,despite the circumstances. When one goes deeper into the Lord(the interior way as it used to be called long ago) circumstances, trials and tribulations become our teachers. How will you know when you are on this path? There is a direct correlation between how we react to personal injustice, and how close we are to God. When we carry our cross, when we are killing the flesh, then we no longer find the need to defend ourselves. You can use this as a barometer of your spiritual walk. Remember how Jesus reacted to false accusation, ridicule and mocking?He was silent before his accusers, in fact the scriptures tell us that Pilate marvelled at his silence. Deltadom writes "I am always under attack the devil always wants to take you out and Jesus is the only one who knows the works of the evil one."Let me encourage you my friend. And if you can get a hold of this truth it will revolutionize your walk. The steps of a righteous man and woman are ordered of God. It is God who ordains your steps, you are his servant, not the devils. Your not leaving this planet one second before God wants you to. What can the devil do to you? He is a defeated foe. You need to start walking in the victory that has been gotton for you on the bloody battlefield of Calvary where our Lord made a spectacle of the devil. So, if you get cancer, your still not leaving this planet before the Lord deems it(so thats sickness taken care of) If you lose your job the Lord has promised to feed and clothe you (so thats the basic neccesaties of life taken care of)If you are ridiculed and persecuted for His sake then you are blessed(so thats the world taken care of) The Lord says "Be of good cheer, for I have overcome the world." When I said in this piece to stand up and fight, I meant exactly what Logic was talking about, I meant stand up and be a light in the darkness, run to the darkness and be unafraid, for this is our calling, to be salt and light to the earth. But we must be filled with His light is we are to fulfill that calling. The love that loves the world, and overcomes it is a supernatural one and can only be gotton by spending time with Him, being in His presence, being full of His Spirit, and getting filled again and again and again and again. Soaking in the word of God, fellowshipping with brothers and sisters, encouraging one another and edifying the saints. The lone sheep is an easy target for an enemy who want to seperate us from our "walk," with Jesus. Its not about losing our salvation, its about drifting away from God and becoming "powerless and lukewarm." We must "abide," in Him. That is a continuing action verb better translated "keep abiding." And finally we are told this to the question in Romans 8:31 "What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? And the answer to the "things," which are "tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword," is ....... But in all these things we more than conquer through Him who loved us. Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Rom 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Praise the name of our Lord and Jesus, the Christ, who is High and lifted up and the train of His robe fill the temple............................In the beauty of Holiness........Frank

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letsgetbusy Apr 10, 2006

appolus,My response to the original post:"Preach it!"Here are Ray Comfort's three personality types:Jawbones, Wishbones, and Backbones.1) Jawbones say, "I'm gonna' do this tomorrow. I'm gonna' go witness at such and such a time. I'm going to make a tract tomorrow."2) Wishbones say, "I wish I had his/her spirituality. I wish I could speak like him. I wish I had her burden for prayer. Oh I wish, I wish..."3) The Backbone just does it. He or she just goes and preaches. They start or get into ministries. They feed the poor. They write a tract, they start a bus ministry, etc.All of us fall into one of these. Sometimes I get convicted when I am teaching evangelism, and then realize it is been much too long since I have witnessed to someone. I hope God continues to convict us of our sin of laziness and selfishness within the church. Your post makes me think of Paisley's words on the beginning of "Revival Hymn.""The church of Jesus Christ is largely sleeping, like a great bedroom, and you have all the Christians in bed and they're all sleeping, and their saying, 'PLEASE DON'T WAKE ME UP!! I want to sleep on.' And of course when God starts to operate a revival, the people cannot sleep. You can't sleep in church when the Spirit of God awakes the people..."

sermonindex Apr 11, 2006

"The church of Jesus Christ is largely sleeping"It is high time that we awake........Frank

sermonindex Apr 16, 2006

appolus wrote:"The church of Jesus Christ is largely sleeping"It is high time that we awake........FrankxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI agree, it definitely is asleep, and the only one that can revive it is the Holy Ghost and the power He offers believers.How do we, as born again Christians, with the Holy Spirit (the down payment) that takes residence in our own hearts participate in the revival that needs to take place?We all need the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, the Baptism of fire as referred to by Jesus. How can we get this baptism today. Pentecost is long past and is seemingly a one time event. However, Paul was involved with bringing more believers into this Spiritual Baptism of power than he was concerned about baptism anyone in water. He mentions only one or two that he water baptized.How did he do this? If you have an electronic study Bible, use the King James Version, and choose the word "hands" and the answer will appear. Paul layed hands on believers, and led them into the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, the Baptism that provides power--the power to witness to the lost, to pray for the sick, to love and care for the lost, to speak in tongues, and to turn the world upside down.That is what the Church needs. Not programs, or "seeker friendly" Churches, but Churches that preach and teach the Word of God and presents the Gospel to the lost, as well as the saved. And, after they are saved leads them (those that want this baptism) into the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.Without that, we have a Church without power. The sad part of the matter is that today most Born Again believers want nothing to do with this Baptism of Fire. God bless,Stever

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IRONMAN Apr 16, 2006

bro Frank"The church of Jesus Christ is largely sleeping"AMEN! and as brother Stever said, the only one who can rouse her is Holy SPirit. Now we are beyond sleeping, we're in a deep stupor and we're about to be slapped awake, and slapped hard right back into the Church as she was in the acts.

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Christinyou Apr 16, 2006

Boy, I don't want to be like the Church in Acts. If you go to chapter 5 and 6 they became a very disarrayed worldly Church, with everything conceivable being done not of the Body of Christ.Jesus Said, "I will build my Church" Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.This Rock is the revelation that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.That is why Jesus called Paul, to give us the revelation in print that Jesus Christ is birthed in every believer and the Holy Spirit is our Teacher of this truth, expounded upon by John in 14,15,16,17. The Church did not know that there was a new Person Born Again in them. Paul got this revealed revelation from Christ Himself.Galatians 1:15-16 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:Gal 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) Colossians 1:26-29 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.No where in Acts is this revealed until Paul stated in Acts 28:28 that this Christ would be accepted by the Gentiles. Acts 28:17-31 And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, (((yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans.))) Who, when they had examined me, would have let me go, because there was no cause of death in me. (((But when the Jews spake against it,))) I was constrained to appeal unto Caesar; not that I had ought to accuse my nation of. For this cause therefore have I called for you, to see you, and to speak with you: because that for the hope of Israel I am bound with this chain. And they said unto him, (((We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.))) (The Church that was started in Acts 2 had not even spoken anything about Paul to anyone.) (((But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect,))) (((we know that every where it is spoken against.))) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening. And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not. And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it. And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves. And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.This is where the Jews departed from the mystery that Paul was to reveal to and received all that God would send him, teaching Jesus Christ who had been revealed to him which was now Paul's life, "Christ in Him the Hope of Glory."I am praising God that I am in the Body of Christ, His Glorious Church and not the Church in Acts 2. 2 Corinthians 4:13-16 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you. For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God. For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. In Christ: Phillip

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