Why I Won't Preach

Do you think that your fiery condemnation resonates with the unrepentant?
oh with all due respect as well i can tell u that if i preach the Loveing Jesus (alone) and the sinner is goin to die in his sin but simply knowing that Jesus is his "hommie" that siner will still end up in hell, ......the Gospel needs to be balanced when preached, preachers can not give a sermon out of one verse alone, without showing the audience the verse that completes the message, I can not preach about the Love of Jesus without tellin the siners that even if Jesus loves them their still gona go to hell, therefore in that same mesage i need to preach about the wrath of God ....

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But the preacher of God must be one who does not need the encouragements of men, but only encouragements from his Master.
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Amen!

Grace, mercy, and peace
GaryE

to lazurus....shrug off the shouts of the left wing hippies......preach the gospel u outlined but i warn u as Whitefield and all the prophets before him (John the Baptist, Jeremiah etc.) encountered attack from religious hypocrites.... so will you.

to bartle......

please dont be a hypocrite.....go and do what u told our friend lazurus to do first...then come back and tell us how to do things.

"We need some hell fire preaching about repentance"
-Leonard Ravenhill

well i want to say one should never say anything to someone else that you havent done or lived yourself...in telling people what or how they shold do something... When lazarus is out preaching the way he is... if his wrong anywhere then the holy spirit will tell him i belive... now what you said about going out in the wilderness...thats good for ALL OF US... that would be good for you for me and for any other man or woman of god... and about preaching...i belive god will raise up one preacher who is specially good at preaching the love of god..another about repentence..another of heven and hell... but i dont belive one should preach only about one thing... if you only preach about gods love.... then you havent shown them "all" of god.... its true he is love..but he is so much more.

and why would anyone? accepts gods love in their lives exept they relise they despratly need it? i dident need a savior until i was so lost that ehtier god saved me or i was left to die. We should al remember if you preach about jesus to anyone... then preach the cross... the cross is death!!! not an improved "lifestyle".. ohh you will feel better...you will have a better life... you wont have to go to hell and so on... YOU HAVE TO DIE!!! and that we must preach... preach sin hell repentence heaven.... but most of all jesus christ and his cross....

but then again... when peter asks jesus after the resurection... what about him? refering to john... ehat does jesus awnser him? thats a verse we need to meditate... joh 21:23 what others is called to maybe not be your call.. someones elses suffering maybe not be your suffering...someone elses burden may not be yours... and what others do...what does that have to do whit you??? we all awnser to our lord ..no one else...what they do in jesus name...what they preach in his name... the truth is unless god says you should say anything you shouldent.... god will judge them, that im sure of ... if it is good or evil... i pray we will al focus on the thing thats is the most important... to bring souls to christ... to be christ like.... and what to preach on...that should be quite easy...what did our lord preach? what did the apostle preach? if i will be a preacher thats what i will preach...

gods peace to you
christian

Once again the admonishen is neglected;

[i]Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.[/i] Jam 3:13

[i]Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.[/i] 1Pe 3:16

It might behoove some here to study out this word, conversation ... Taking special note of the Lords own words in conjunction with it;

[i]But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.[/i] Mat 15:18

If anything, humble yourself and read
[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=11281&forum=34]this[/url]

Carefully, prayerfully

Preach on, Brother Jesse.
It is not the sinner that doesn't want to hear your message.
It is the luke warm in the Church.
They want to believe the prosperity, feel good Gospel.
May God have us at the ditch, His bride, when they fall in, so we can show them Jesus Christ.
The Bible says if the blind lead the blind, they both fall into the ditch.
I would encourage you people on SI to listen to Jesses's Sermons here.
Would to God our young people at Church could hear him.
God Bless you, Jesse, and continue to fill you with Himself.
Nellie

It seems that Laz is telling us to preach what Jesus preached.

Jesus did not preach a message of salvation from some other, but rather said that He, the Son of Man, must be lifted up. He humbly preached His own name.

Jesus preached a narrow way. Black or white. Saved or lost. Wise virgins or foolish virgins. Built on rock or built on sand. Fruit-bearing or condemned to wither. Abraham's bosom or torments in flame. His message was straight, so our's ought to be.

Jesus spoke more of hell than any figure in the Scriptures. I don't think anything else needs to be added here.

Jesus' message included repentance, and in fact, started with it, continued with it, and ended with it. His first word of public ministry was 'Repent' in Matthew. His last word of instuction to the New Testament church was 'repent' in Revelation. And the words of Matthew clearly state that He only had 'began' to command men to repent.

Of false peace, I think of this Scripture:

Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

I put this on myself and no one else, but let it convict or encourage where ever it might. While I have been careful to include all of the above, I have been reading from J I Packers 'Keeping In Step with the Spirit,' and have recognized the lack of the other things Jesus and the disciples preached outside of sin, law, righteousness, judgment, and hell (the big five).

Now let me state that preaching must include these, but I am recognizing that that there were many other subjects in their messages that I disclude from mine that I am seeking to add. The majority of preaching, as far as I can tell, does not include the big five, though it should start with the big five and continue in them. I am just realizing in my realm of living and preaching that there is more than the escape of the penalty of the law of sin. But I also recognize that the Christian walk BEGINS with this.

So I think it might bring some thoughts to agreement to consider that Laz is preaching to the lost, not the church crowd. So while there is the love of Christ to consider in ministry, these under Laz's voice need a Saviour from their sin. He is not preaching to the converted. He is attempting to bring the dead to life. We will give that saved sinner the loving arms of Christ when he steps foot into our fold, but as for now, that individual needs to flee from the wrath to come.

May the Lord sustain you and keep you from falling, Jesse.

Jesse wrote:

The gospel that must be preached today is the biblical gospel, the powerful gospel, not a neutered gospel. We need the sin trampling, death destroying, hell conquering gospel! We need the gospel which plucks men out of the fires of hell, out of the clutches of death, and out of the reign of sin. It is this gospel of light which is needed for this dark hour, this gospel of victory for this day of defeat, this gospel of deliverance for this day of bondage. And it is this gospel that I’m going to preach!

This is true and in the light of this truth one needs to ask himself if the gospel one preaches is in line with this truth. So how do we do this? We look at the fruit. So ask yourself, over the past year how many people have been plucked out of the fires of hell, out of the clutches of death, and out of the reign of sin as result of the gospel you preached? How many people have received victory over sin and had the bondages of sin broken in there life as result of the gospel you preached? How many people have been baptized as result of the gospel you preached? How many people have been filled with the Holy Spirit as result of the gospel you preached? How many people have been crushed with the realization of their sinful condition openly weeping or falling to their knees under the burden of conviction as result of the gospel you preached? How many people have come to complete repentance as result of the gospel you preached? How many people are currently being discipled by you yourself or someone directly related with your ministry as result of the gospel you preached?

If you are preaching the gospel these fruits will be added to you. But are you are preaching a weak and powerless gospel void of fruit?

[b]Matthew 7:15-17 [/b]
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17Even so [b]every good tree bringeth forth good fruit[/b]; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 [b]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.[/b] 20 [b]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.[/b]

The Scripture says "by their fruits ye shall know them". Yet some people claim that they don't know their fruit because they are just sowing seeds and that those seeds may well produce fruit down the road that they don't know about. Well, this is true to a sense, some twist this truth to attempt to explain their lack of fruit. Although we do sow seeds that are harvested later down the road it can never be an excuse for lack of visible tangible fruit, for the Scripture says "by their fruits ye shall know them" If you don't know your own fruit, how can I know you by your fruit? Dose the Gospel you preach produce visible tangible fruit?

[b]John 15:4-6[/b]
4Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth [b]much fruit[/b]: for without me ye can do nothing. 6If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Notice how the Scripture says "much fruit" not "some fruit" or "a little fruit" but "much fruit" Does the gospel you preach bring forth "much fruit"? Don't fool yourself by saying "I'm just sowing seeds" if you abide in Christ and preach the true Gospel it WILL bring forth much fruit that is both visible and tangible.

[b]John 15:7-9[/b]
7If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 8Herein is my Father glorified, [b]that ye bear much fruit[/b]; so shall ye be my disciples. 9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

Again the Scripture says "much fruit". Over the past year has the gospel you preached brought forth "much fruit" that is both visible and tangible?

[b]John 15:16 [/b]
16Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

So ask yourself when answering the questions in the first paragraph - Do your answers show evidence of as the Scriptures says "much fruit" or does your answers show evidence of as the Scripture says "a tree that bringeth not forth good fruit" that is hewn down, and cast into the fire. If you do not have visible and tangible evidence of much fruit, I warn you be aware that you are NOT abiding in Christ and preaching a weak and powerless gospel and a gospel entirely other then the Gospel of Christ which plucks men out of the fires of hell, out of the clutches of death, and out of the reign of sin and is a gospel of victory for this day of defeat, this gospel of deliverance for this day of bondage no only in theory and word but in demonstration of power by action.

"He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth [b]much fruit[/b]"

Patrick

T-Shirts sold in Christian stores today read: “Jesus Is My Homeboy” but the Jesus of the bible is Lord, Savior, and Judge.

Amen. I think too often today we have put too much emphasis on the "relational" aspect of the gospel. As much as the relational aspect of the gospel is needed in our preaching, as Jesus often emphasized it when He spoke of "the Father", I think much preaching and many Christians have neglected the chief way Christ is understood in the NT: as Lord.

When we preach Christ as Lord, we convey that Christ is not just merely another person who is giving friendly advice, but rather, is One who gives commands that are to be obeyed. The relational aspect of the gospel, of Jesus being "my homeboy" keeps us from carrying out the commandments of Christ in a cold manner, but instead as one whose heart has been warmed by God. But the emphasis in the NT is on the Lordship of Christ.

So ask yourself when answering the questions in the first paragraph - Do your answers show evidence of as the Scriptures says "much fruit" or does your answers show evidence of as the Scripture says "a tree that bringeth not forth good fruit" that is hewn down, and cast into the fire. If you do not have visible and tangible evidence of much fruit, I warn you be aware that you are NOT abiding in Christ and preaching a weak and powerless gospel and a gospel entirely other then the Gospel of Christ which plucks men out of the fires of hell, out of the clutches of death, and out of the reign of sin and is a gospel of victory for this day of defeat, this gospel of deliverance for this day of bondage no only in theory and word but in demonstration of power by action.

Patrick, thank you for your 'fruitful' contribution. I do wish to bring a bit of balance here though.

I have recently been reading a biography of Adoniram Judson to my children. In case you don't know about him, he was America's first foreign missionary. He was called by God to go to Burma in the early 1800's. He and his wife Ann labored faithfully in Rangoon for many years without a single convert. Despite many hardships he managed to complete the only existing Burmese translation of the Bible available even to this day. Eventually, after years of labor, there were converts and a church established and one can look back and indeed say the was "much fruit".

On the other hand, there are certainly others who see 'fruit' almost immediately. Either way it is God who gives the increase in His timing. We are simply called to unswerving dedication wherever He may lead us.

In Christ,

Ron

Thank you Greg for your, as usual, well balanced and timely words of wisdom.

I would like to also state that my previous post was in no way directed solely at Jesse and his ministry. The post was not only for Jesse, but for all others who claim the name of Christ in ministry. This includes myself, you Greg, Jesse and everyone who ministers in the name of Jesus. I think it prudent to continually inspect our own fruit or look to see if in fact we have any at all.

Patrick

brethren
like greg said there must be balance. one can't hear only of a loving Father without knowing that God is just and as such will mete out the prescribed punishment on sinners. The Love of God is something completely foreign to us because it is a thing which is not inherent to us. Therefore our peception thereof is oft very jaded and leans a lot on our pre-Chris view of what love is hence a sentiment like this :

Our God is not harsh, as your words are, He is slow to anger, abounding in love grace and mercy, yet you heap abuse on countless men of God who don't measure up to your fierce immature fiery fleshly zeal.

bro Bartle God's love encompases His Righteousness, Holiness and Justice which means sin is not acceptable before Him. He is harsh toward sin. He is slow to anger indeed but heaven forbid you or anyone else make Him angry coz if you don't have the blood of Christ on you, there is no stopping Him. God's love doesn't mean we can get away with sin, we are forgiven but not exempt from the consequences thereof and we all need to be aware that our Lord requires that we REPENT for if we don't, we will die. God our Father saw the issue of our salvation to be one of such gravity that the only way it could be bought was by the blood of His Son who Himself was and is sinless. That is a frightening thing because it says if we goof off and reject that blood or treat it with contempt or the gospel thereof, God the Father will not be happy. If we are to preach, let us be called of God and preach what He would have us preach. it will offend people because the very nature of our God and His word is an offense to men. Our early Christian brethren didn't end up martyred in all manner of ways for being nicey nicey, they preached as they were led to preach and it was offensive. i'm not saying we ought to be offensive for the sake of it, but simply we ought to be aware that God's word is offensive and if we don't see that reaction from people, perhaps we ought to stop and check ourselves...

ouf job is not to convert/convict, Holy Spirit does that, we are to do whatever our Father says.

Do you think that your fiery condemnation resonates with the unrepentant?

if our Father calls any one of us to preach with such fire at a particular time, should we not obey Him? if the unrepentant person receiving the message doesn't repent and you have done as you were asked, let God deal with it. He will harden whomever He will. Anything beyond what God says we ought to do, is none of our concern.

No...they see some religious freek full of religious pride ranting on religion, they do not see Jesus Lamb of God, Saviour of the World, who humbled Himself to the point of nails driven thru Him.

if they see some religious freak and we've done as we were asked,what is that to us? should we not rejoice for the ridicule we receive for the cause of the gospel? Christ ended up on the cross because what He said was very offensive to the powers at the time, that's why the council had Him crucified, however they didn't know that they were fulfilling what God required for the remission of sins so He was crucified coz He was offensive but for the purpose of God being glorified in our salvation.

our God is Holy and as such requires we His children to be Holy. This Holiness we are called to is an offense to man because the light of it exposes the false holiness and false rightteousness of man. The message of repentance is rarely preached and as a result those who do preach it are looked at with contempt, same goes for those who warn of the eternal nature of damnation and hell, and those who speak of the Holiness and Righteousness of God which is an aspect of Him and His love which demands we be Holy as He is.

brethren, God the Father's Son paid with His very blood for us, i think it unwise to blaspheme His name and blood by misrepresenting Him by poor preaching. If we misrepresent God and hinder anyone from coming to Him either by preaching Him to be a teddybear who'll take us as we are without repenting or one who is seeking to condemn us we shall surely have to give an account and we'll have blood on our hands. i for one would rather not stand before God in such a situation.

let us preach and represent God as HE is, a loving God who requires that as many as would should repent and those who do not will surely die. AMEN.

God's love encompases His Righteousness, Holiness and Justice which means sin is not acceptable before Him. He is harsh toward sin. He is slow to anger indeed but heaven forbid you or anyone else make Him angry coz if you don't have the blood of Christ on you, there is no stopping Him.

Well said, brother.

The message of repentance is rarely preached and as a result those who do preach it are looked at with contempt

Again, so true and concise.

Hi everyone.

I thought this would be a good reminder for us concerning our responses to each other. If you haven't already, or even if you have, may I recommend opening this thread

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=view...

and click on the map of the [b]"Top 500 Spots in the world that access SI!"[/b]

That should give us an idea of amount of people that can potentially view our words.

I was wondering too, if we are praying for those who we disagree with [b]before[/b] we respond to them? I was thinking about this and decided that I had to do it myself before I said anything. When I came back to the computer I did not quite see the same things as I did before. Something else I thought of while praying is the question, why don't we do this, that is pray for those we disagree with before we post something?

Is it because of unbelief? Do we not believe that God will do something about it or perhaps that He will not do what [b]we want[/b] Him to do? Perhaps we are not meek enough to suffer patiently long enough to see God move when we can [b]instantly[/b] take it upon ourselves to mete out justice?

Some thoughts, for myself included.