MIRACLES ARE a MUST!! -by Andrew Strom - COMMENTS??

MIRACLES ARE a MUST!!
-by Andrew Strom.

If anything I am known as a 'word' preacher. For years and years
I have prayed for a 'Revival' anointing on my preaching - and in the
last 3 - 4 years I have certainly noticed an increase. But I am
well aware that this is only half the story. As Revival history shows
us - the 'word' by itself can have tremendous power to convict
and transform lives. But without MIRACLES I have to question
whether we really are representing true New Testament Christianity.
I am totally convinced that we must have BOTH - the 'WORD' and
the MIGHTY DEMONSTRATION of God's power.

In 1947 Smith Wigglesworth gave a prophecy about 3 coming
moves of God. Concerning the last (and greatest) of these he said:

"When the new church phase is on the wane, there will be evidence
in the churches of something that has not been seen before: a
coming together of those with an emphasis on the word and those
with an emphasis on the Spirit. When the word and the Spirit
come together, there will be the biggest move of the Holy Spirit
that the nation, and indeed, the world has ever seen. It will mark
the beginning of a revival that will eclipse anything that has been
witnessed within these shores, even the Wesleyan and Welsh
revivals of former years...."

-There it is- "The WORD and the SPIRIT" joined.

Let me ask a simple question: What did people "see" when they
came across Jesus' ministry? -They saw a simple, piercing
gospel being preached and also the 'kingdom' being domonstrated
through healings and miracles. -That is basically what they saw.
And what did people "see" in the ministry of the apostles and
evangelists of Acts? -They saw the same thing. -An anointed,
piercing gospel and mighty demonstrations of God's power - both
together. In fact, we really should ask ourselves- Is it possible to
preach the gospel (in the full New Testament sense) without
signs and wonders? -If we are being truly scriptural, surely we
would have to answer- "NO, IT IS NOT."

Another question- Why is the casting out of demons so important
in demonstrating the 'kingdom'? Well - what it is showing is the
greater AUTHORITY found in the name and the 'king-ship' of
Jesus Christ. Even demons have to obey Him! Suddenly everyone
sees this beyond a doubt when a demon is cast out before their
eyes. I remember the first time I saw this happen as a teenager -
before I was a true Christian. The person screamed and writhed as
the demon was cast out - just like in the Bible. And what was the
result in me? -CONVICTION! Suddenly everything was 'REALLY
TRUE'! I felt like running forward and surrendering to God on the spot.

And this is why I am opposed to casting out demons in a "back
room" somewhere. Notice that Jesus never did this. He cast out
demons in PUBLIC - so that the 'kingdom' was demonstrated and
God was glorified. Notice too, the absence of "3 hour marathons"
in casting out demons in the Bible. They had the anointing and
authority from God - and deliverance was mostly quick and decisive.

We have got to see the 'Word and the Spirit joined' like this in our
day. In fact, I would love anyone on this List who moves powerfully
in these areas to email me. -We have got to encourage and bring
forward these kinds of giftings once again.

When I was in Michigan recently a leader there gave me a word.
God was deeply moving in people's hearts that weekend - we had
people getting baptized and everything. Yet he said to me- 'Last
night I got a word for you. You need to hook up with others who
move powerfully in miracles and healings - so there is a balance.
Not just in preaching - but powerful "demonstration" also.' -That
was the gist of his word to me. And my spirit said, "AMEN!" I got
a strong sense of confirmation that this was a "Now" word.

I immediately thought of a brother in Arizona whom I know moves
VERY powerfully in these areas - without hype or any of the other
nonsense. -Just pure power of God. -And already we are talking
about ministering together.

So please be aware that I fully intend for our meetings and
gatherings in the future to be just as full of 'DEMONSTRATION' as
they are of the "WORD".

And I am serious about wanting to hear back from others who move
powerfully in these giftings. It is time to see a "joining" of that which
God has always wanted to bring forth. (-Simply reply to this email
to get in touch. My email is- )

Could this be the hour for the joining of the WORD and the SPIRIT,
my friends? Is this what God has been wanting to do?

God bless you all!

Andrew Strom.

God is truly wanting to move in these last days. His power is just as real as it was when Jesus was here, it is us who has grown cold. We have allowed too much of the world into the church - thus we are rendered powerless. I believe this is why we don't see demons cast out. They are comfortable to be in our church services. We are powerless to cast them out and we are so self centered and concerned with prosperity and blessings that we are desensitized to the demonic forces that functioning. They are so comfortable in our church services that they have no need to manifest. Why manifest when there is no presence of God? If we are living in a more wicked and perverse generation than we were 20 years ago, it only makes sense that there would be a stronger demonic stronghold and possession of people. We must repent as a church and separate ourselves from sin. The "Old Timers" used to call it "sanctified" from the world. It's time for some sanctification to be present again. God is wanting us to join the WORD and the SPIRIT. AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

Cindy Antwiler

I'm with you Cindy.

We have allowed too much of the world into the church - thus we are rendered powerless. I believe this is why we don't see demons cast out. They are comfortable to be in our church services.

I believe in divine healing and have graciously been the recipient of it but the conviction and the subsequent deliverance from sin is much more miraculous in my view.

We must repent as a church and separate ourselves from sin. The "Old Timers" used to call it "sanctified" from the world. It's time for some sanctification to be present again. God is wanting us to join the WORD and the SPIRIT. AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

The thing that strikes me is that many on this site - like myself - have become so focused on 'PREACHING' as our major concern - that we have relegated "HEALINGS and MIRACLES" to a lesser place.

Yes - anointed preaching is massively important. But if we look at Scripture we see that "signs and wonders" were almost EQUALLY important. Can we really come to that realization? Can we truly come to grips with how VITAL it is to have healings and miracles accompany the word?

I wonder if we can actually come into Revival at all without this realization. -It may be the very thing God is waiting for. -The WORD and the SPIRIT joined.

-Andrew Strom.

I believe that miracles are important, but equal with preaching? I think of this Scripture.

1 Corinthians 1:21-23 [b]"For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness."[/b]

Well - all we know is that Paul described this
as "fully" preaching the gospel-

"By word and deed, Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have FULLY preached the gospel of Christ" (Rom 15:18-19).

In Scripture we also find the record showing that indeed there were signs and wonders continually accompanying and confirming the gospel wherever it was preached. Jesus started this pattern - and his followers continued it. So yes - I believe it was vital.

-Andrew Strom.

So yes - I believe it was vital.

I agree, but maybe i'm missing something here, is preaching without signs and wonders is not fully powerful?

Well, I myself am a 'Revival' preacher - and I see God do a lot of wonderful things in people's lives simply through preaching the word. (-I have to pray a lot before I preach - because it is only GOD who can pierce people's hearts like that).

But lately God has been reminding me of "signs and wonders". Of course there is a lot of 'flakey' stuff around - and I am not into that. But He is reminding me that true miracles are very important and MUST accompany the word.

This may well be a key to the coming Revival. -It certainly was in Acts.

God bless you!

-Andrew Strom.

I see the point in that. "These signs shall follow them that believe."

But He is reminding me that true miracles are very important and MUST accompany the word.

But what if they don't though? I've seen lives touched without miracles being performed, and i've seen miracles and no one get saved. John the Baptist did no miracles.

I too am hearing the same thing in prayer and have been praying that God will revive us as a people who live in the miraculous. I also have been praying that the miraculous be of such a type that could not be counterfeited. That God would manifest the exceeding greatness of His power to usward who believe in such a way that no man or program would dare take credit for it and which would cause such an overflow from His church to the community and that we would see the fruit of that. We are also asking God's presence to be so thick that it is almost tangible and that people would drive their cars into our town's limits and say wow! what is that! And be changed somehow because they they have entered a place where it pleased God to manifest His Holy presence in response to His own word that if we who are called by His name will humble, pray, seek, turn, that He will hear, forgive, and heal our land.

IF....

I am convinced that the IF of that verse is impossible for us except He initiate it and finish it!

Please Lord start your people humbling thenselves to pray! In Jesus' name

Yes,I too am scripturally convinced that miracles are a must. For the Kingdom of God is not in word only but in power. And it was the signs and wonders that bore witness to the gospel that the Apostles were preaching "God working with them!".

I am from Calvary Chapel and have gone through there school of ministry. But shortly will be going out to Kansas City to wait for the promise of the Father for the glory of God and for empowerment in street preaching and evangelism.

It seems scary or weird to me that many are oblivious to this and they are "sola scriptura" in a radical sense to where they dont believe in gifts or at least subtly dont earnestly emphasize the seeking of them anywhere near their contending for the word. How can they be so scripture saturated and then not see the scripture!?

so what then needs to be done?

Pray for neither preaching nor signs and wonders will stand without prayer.

History is silent about revivals that did not begin with prayer. ~ Edwin Orr

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Is there anyone here who is under a true biblical ministry, or is aware of one anywhere?

Are you perhaps experiencing this kind of walk with the Lord?

Where is the genuine sold out, walk on water, raising the dead, healing the leper believer/ministry today?

Blessings Greg

Father, Where is the genuine sold out, walk on water, raising the dead, healing the leper believer/ministry today? Bring it to my church and all the churches of my community, unite us in this, so all will know there is a God in Farmington. And so I ask this also for our nation and for this world. In Jesus Name

"MIRAClES A MUST" ??!!!

Yes, the Cross and the Shed Blood, what more miracles can one DEMAND ?????!!!! A MUST?? ??!!!!( Support this demand with Scriptures, that is, rightly/accurately divided please )

Quote Andrew_Strom

But lately God has been reminding me [b](??) [/b]of "signs and wonders". Of course there is a lot of 'flakey' stuff around - and I am not into that. But He is reminding me that true miracles are very important and MUST [b]( that's a big leap of assumption on one's part)[/b]accompany the word.

[b]Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

2Thes. II. 9, 10.

Even him whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all power, and signs, and lying wonders, and with all deceiveableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. - 2 Thes. II. 9, 10.

James 4:3
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.[/b]

SI "May God rise up a movement of people who hunger and thirst for righteousness."

Righteousness, ( professing Christians' much needed righteousness, true love and holiness) , that's the miracle enough, just look around us !!

If signs and wonders and miracles bring about salvation, there will be no need for the only necessary miracles - The Cross with It's Shed Blood !!

i believe in miracles, but i don't think its a MUST. God pouring out His Holy Spirit, stepping down and moving the hearts to repentance is a MUST. Jesus perform many miracles, but it wasn't the miracles that lead people to repentance. the miracles shows that the kingdom of God is near you.

the welsh revival didn't have a big healing revival. what happend was that God stepped down and cut the heart, moving many to repentance. thats what we need!

I agree that we need "conviction" and repentance like that. -I already see these things in my ministry and, like you, I believe they are VERY important.

But to have true SCRIPTURAL Christianity it is very clear that we must have miracles as well. You can look right through the NT and you will always find that they had BOTH. I think we are wrong to aim only for Revival PREACHING. We need DEMONSTRATION as well if we are going to be like Acts.

Surely we can see this?

-Andrew Strom.

Smokey wrote:
Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

I have put may faith out in verse 20 of this passage of scripture.Mar 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, [b]the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following[/b]. Amen. In my reading of the scripture I [b]expect it to be so[/b] that signs wonders miracles follow the word. My thinking is, if I am preaching what Jesus wants me to preach then amen, let it be so...miracles, signs wonders.

If I do not have these things following and I have set my faith out for it, then I must not be preaching want Jesus wants. I find this personallly very freeing, it puts the owness for miracels etc firmly in the hands of the one who [b]confirms his word[b/], the Lord Jesus Christ.
Amen!

p.s. I do not get hung up over this position, I just get further on my kness. ;-)

But to have true SCRIPTURAL Christianity it is very clear that we must have miracles as well. You can look right through the NT and you will always find that they had BOTH. I think we are wrong to aim only for Revival PREACHING. We need DEMONSTRATION as well if we are going to be like Acts.

So if there are no miracles, the ministry isn't scriptural?