They sold their souls for Rock N' Roll

Here's an interesting website (note sure if its been posted here before?), outlining all the major music stars and their love for Satan.

View to the end to see Madonna quote Rev. 21, during one of her "dance acts."

http://goodfight.org/goodfight.org/tvad.wmv

You can also watch hours of it on google video.

[url=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=sold+their+souls+for+rock+and+roll&so=0]http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=sold+their+souls+for+rock+and+roll&so=0[/url]

as a kid (in the latye 80's) i remember a preacher from florida who came to our youth group to talk about tje "evils of rock music" it was effective. all these years later i still remember it.
he pounted out all the rock stars who have commited suicide or have died young as a result of drugs and alchahol.
he also went through the current top-40 and, using the titles only, showed us that the lyrics and songs were ungodly and dangerouse.
he didn't use the popular "back masking" thing but he did mention that the songs played forward were bad enough!
they are preaching another Gospel....paul said let them be cursed...and do not be partakers of another man's evil!

Umm, how can I put this, nicely?

Is it ok if I decline the offer to watch?

Thank you, I knew you'd understand.

God bless.

How 'bout Niko McBain testifying that he's also a born-again Christian, and continues to tour with Iron Maiden as their drummer?
I read this a only a few months back in a canada.com interview. Honestly, I didn't know what to think. I can't comprehend headbangin' to 'The Number Of The Beast' and mortifying my fleshly members at the same time.
God bless you with Himself,
richie

Find it interesting that often those less qualified to speak about what they do not know go right on ahead anyway. There has been any number of discussions around here on music, the evils thereof, secular\\"Christian" but to narrow it to one section of thought towards this particular posting ... Hyperbole, sensationalism, Christian superstition are words that come to mind. It is the equivalent of supermarket tabloid for believers, we just love to buy up this stuff, put our denouncing twist on it and send it back out into the world. Then wonder at why they want nothing to do with 'our' Jesus...

This is fodder for the lower nature and the un- contemplative mind, might as well throw it into the ring with our political sound bites and commentary on all the outward manifested 'evils' of the world.

all these musicians WANT hell....

That is an arbitrary statement. Do they really? I once was absorbed with music, heavy metal, hard rock, classical rock, southern rock, old school, new school, guitar virtuoso's ... Eat, drink, sleep, bleed ... and practice, (guitar licks that is). Prior to that as a drummer, prior to that in school 'honor band's', orchestra and the like.

I never wanted hell, 'rebellion' wasn't some kind of anarchistic trait, it was loud, thrilling, creative, powerful. Some of it was certainly 'dark' but a great deal of it was far more honest and forthcoming than what we now find amongst those who ought to be the epitome of those words. [i]That[/i] I find most troubling. Secondly is those who have such an uneducated opinion about matters as to jump on the bandwagon of denouncing by hearsay. And quite often it is poorly researched 'ministers' who get the small thinking believers all up in a uproar by these commentaries completely missing what the Lord taught about the heart, what the enemy of our souls is really up to, making the believer gullible and entangled in all sorts of outward 'manifestations' to challenge the definition. What gets missed in this way of judging is that the moral man, can be as far away from the kingdom of God as the head-banging metalhead, in fact would go as far to say that the latter may be closer in possibility than the former. The 'good' man has little to concern himself with, the rebel has the nag of conscience somewhere along the line, but this is just as general of a statement as anything else, rebels are heart bred no matter what their outward 'clothing'.

This is no defense of anything on this realm if that is what the assumption might be. It is to put the question to us, to believers and the things we pontificate on with scant understanding.
It's weary, it's weak and it's low. It's far too often completely missing the point. What is it that pulls and tugs believers into the sensational, the controversial, the gossipy and giving short shift to pride, bitterness, outburst's of anger, where sin really resides and the sins that Jesus came to save men from, in and out of?

The last thing I would want to get into here is another comparison with what constitutes CCM vs secular music. Tastes and preferences and all the associated baggage. This marriage with the world and attempts at 'Christianizing civilization' to borrow Chambers line...

Folks, if you want to understand what the enemy is up to you are going to have to start looking past these kinds of diversions, [i]an angel of light[/i] disguised is hardly as interested in making such a great showing as we might suppose. What the world does is what the world does and it is quite ridiculous to be taking out subsections of it and putting our uneducated Christian spin on it. Need I go into the 'of course' of the matters? Would hope not, but I do understand this particular realm very, very well and to simplify it the way it is often done with this sort of sensational over speak is discouraging because it is just dishonest.

To put it crassly, I was saved through rock and roll if you can take that for it's worth. All throughout the muddiness, God was somewhere in the thought's and mysteriously after my soul through all those years. Don't be so naive' to think that these are all so easily categorized as some loud minister who doesn't have the foggiest idea of what he is speaking about states. We can go on and on decrying the debauchery and drunkenness, the sex and drugs [i]and[/i] rock n' roll, all of it is there in it's entanglements just as much as the spiritual pride of the Christian who thanks God for not being [i]like them[/i] even if the words never escape the lips, the motivations that are thought hidden betray the heart and even the heathen are not fooled by any of it. Sin doesn't have it's own hierarchy as we suppose, it's own stereotypes as the Christian would like to neatly classify them, it is the worlds disease, the creature and the creation all subject to the destruction.

We need, the church needs to grow up out of this meager, beggarly way of thinking. I think our 'witness' suffers greatly from it because we have been now conditioned so much to think that our witness is only something that we speak of, not something that we are of a truth, that can be seen and understood as an evidence, something we in fact [i]are[/i]. Not what we speak out of the sides of our mouth, not something we aspire to, not known for making comment on everything under the sun with scant knowledge.

Some unfinished thought ...

Recall an old message I once heard from Chip Ingram about this sort of "Christian" voyeurism. He was talking about watching some program on T.V. and complaining, "I can't [i]believe[/i] they are showing this sort of thing on T.V! I mean, [i]look at this![/i] Can you believe it?"
(All the while refusing to change the channel)

The point was how we can justify ourselves with the decrying while subtly entertaining ourselves with the spurious notion that we are above it all. Worse, if we were more honest about it that we are getting the best of 'both world's' peering backwards into the sin that we say we so despise, when the reality is we may love it just as much as anyone else.

God is not mocked.

Crsschk:
With reference to your post, it is intresting to note that Christians do catergorise sin.

I know this changes the whole mode of the thread, but we do mock God.

God took the lives of Ananias and Sapphria for lying to Him via Peter.

I guess most Christians think little of lying or being deceitful or cheating, but it is sin, God sees it, and we are judged by Him for it.

Still, this thread is about music and celebs, so I'll end it here.

God bless.

Hi Ritchie,

I can't comprehend headbangin' to 'The Number Of The Beast' and mortifying my fleshly members at the same time.

A bit short on time here but wanted to note something about this. About the time this album came out a brother who was instrumental in where I find myself these days was hounding me with tract's and whatnot. Actually that was my perspective, he often was bringing conviction without really even trying, making me think and consider ... We would often have a great deal of discussions on music, my take more from a musicians standpoint and his ... well, not far from the hyperbole that I have just been attempting to expose. The timing was interesting and think we both were learning from each other, he wasn't overbearing on the matter but he really through me for a loop with all the talk of 'this world', whatever could he mean? I didn't get it.
There was a great struggle regardless, you see I still 'believed in God' even throughout those years, I had as of yet come to [i]know[/i] Him in what has become the ever growing and vast contemplation that is now becoming the recognition that I know next to nothing .. ;-)

What I would often do in my mind in those days was to try and justify things to ease my conscience I suppose, while still trying to find God in it ... it was an honest, muddied confusion. Strange that this very album was something that probably began to more integrate the thought's of judgment, of eternity. Later recall reading that the motivation for the whole conceptual idea's in the album sprung from a dream that the bassist .... Harris? I believe it is, (been awhile) wrote out of. For all the imagery of the album cover, for all the controversy that caused the 'Fundy's' to come unglued about at the time ... Recall none that actually took the time to attempt to understand it all, only found the fodder they were looking for and the ammunition to denounce ... Anyway, the lyrics below.

Niko McBain, was delighted to hear about his testimony, where he is in his particular walk, his commitment or level of understanding ...

Is this really any of our business when we get right down to it? What I mean is, are we to take the quick clippings, the little that is known and make a case one way or the other? Isn't the larger question, [i]why[/i] are we so interested in attempting to figure these things out? Not trying to be pointed or accusatory, just food for thought.

[i]Woe to you Oh Earth and Sea
for the Devil sends the beast with wrath
because he knows the time is short
Let him who hath understanding
reckon the number of the beast
for it is a human number
its number is six hundred and sixty six.

I left alone my mind was blank
I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind

What did I see can I believe that what I saw
that night was real and not just fantasy

Just what I saw in my old dreams were they
reflections of my warped mind staring back at me

Cuz' in my dreams it's always there the evil face that twists my mind
and brings me to despair

The night was black was no use holding back
Cuz' I just had to see was someone watching me
In the mist dark figures move and twist
was all this for real or just some kind of hell
666 the Number of the Beast
Hell and fire was spawned to be released

Torches blazed and sacred chants were phrased
as they start to cry hands held to the sky
In the night the fires are burning bright
the ritual has begun Satan's work is done
666 the Number of the Beast
Sacrifice is going on tonight

This can't go on I must inform the law
Can this still be real or just some crazy dream
but I feel drawn towards the chanting hordes
they seem to mesmerize...can't avoid their eyes
666 the Number of the Beast
666 the one for you and me

I'm coming back I will return
And I'll possess your body and I'll make you burn
I have the fire I have the force
I have the power to make my evil take its course[/i]

Most think they are Satanic

So, Krispy, are you saying that Maiden is not "Satanic"? I was very much into them in the 80's, had all their albums, Eddie "The trooper" painted on the back of my denim, hair down to the middle of my back. I've been to their concerts, seen Powerslave, etc. I can tell you first hand that Iron Maiden is not Christian, nor propogates the holiness of Jesus Christ. Many of their followers are are hardline drug-users, and Steve Harris and Bruce Dickenson have [i]never[/i] comunicated the gospel from the stage. Their songs are of vain subjects i.e. primitive man's quest for fire, Greek and Egyptian mythological references, Biblical verses taken out of context, secular, godless poetry. Their album covers are steeped in demonic symbolisms. When you look at Satanic "Eddie" rising from the dead (depicted on Live From the Dead) are you reminded of the holiness of Christ's resurrection? When you see "Eddie" holding a bloody hatchet on a dark, grafitti-ridden street corner (the cover for "Killers"), are you overwhelmed with a sense of the fruit of the Spirit - peace, joy, charity, long-suffering? C'mon, man. What are you trying to say in your post?

Jesus said that if you are not gathering, you are scattering. Scattering. "Eddie" scatters, and it doesn't matter how "intelligent" the lyrics are. I am reminded on the back of the "Piece of Mind" album of a photo of the band sitting at a medieval table with forks and knives, preparing to eat a fresh, human brain. Friend, is such a concept from God or from Satan? Let's speak the plain truth in love: Iron Maiden (the name alone refers to a Spanish inquisitional torture-device), and the whole concept of this band was birthed in the womb of a wicked spirit. Just like Rush (also very intelligent lyrics), King Crimson, Led Zeppelin, and a myriad of other "metal" and hard-rock bands of those times.

Iron Maiden is Satanic. Do they need to sing "I love Satan!" to be labeled Satanic? Would it surprise you if I said the Beatles were Satanic too? Or Air Supply or Barry Manilow or The Police? I believe that anything not born of God in Christ and bringing people [i]to[/i] the knowledge of Christ in all holiness and purity, it is of the godless spirit of the world, of the devil, and Satan's cloaked purpose is to use it to scatter. To isolate the true knowledge of God from the minds of men. Can you show me otherwise?

If so, I challenge you (and please don't do this - you will offend the purity of SI) to post the pictures of each one of Iron Maiden's albums on a separate thread, and post all the albums' song lyrics beneath those pictures. Then write captions to propose that this band is not Satanic, but is birthed in the Spirit of God.

I am sorry to challenge you like this, brother, but I got on and read your post...and couldn't believe a Spirit-filled believer would actually argue that Iron Maiden [i]was not[/i] of Satan - and defend them by their lyrics! No, the people reading this must hear the truth in love. And if anyone chooses, they can do an image search and
see for themselves the grotesque spirit behind this band.

Brother Paul

Krispy, you are mistaken. I see you speedily read my post and posted to save face. There is a spirit behind this world, friend. It is not of God. Iron Maiden is not of God. I dare you to post that Maiden is of God. If you cannot post this, then what is Iron Maiden of? Be bold - speak the truth in love.

I guess the crux here is you believe something can be of the world and not of Satan. I see this discussion heading to a point of striving. I don't want to go here with you. One of us must be wrong here.

Again, how in the world can you say these guys were not Satanically influenced when you see their album covers. How can you say there is not a wicked spirit behind the music. How can you say that [i]anything[/i] that is so blatently not of God may not be of the devil? Does one have to sacrifice virgins to qualify? See and judge for yourself, speak the truth inlove, and vehemently warn others to avoid the poison. Let's get a holy indignation to label the devil for what he is - the price of this world. He is in everything that is not of God, especially musicsuch as this. And yes, there is a demon lurking behind all this stuff, and if you can't realize this, I do pity you, brother. This stuff is precisely the reason why the church is so crippled and lame. We have a tendency to mitigate and not make a thing out to be as deadly as it really is. Instead of full-scale avoidance we rationalize and say stuff like "Well, the lyrics [i]are[/i] kinda intelligent. The music [i]does[/i] sound kinda cool and highbrow." It's not necessarily the work of devils. We shouldn't be so harsh and judgmental. Look at all the [i]good[/i] songs - songs of English history, alexander the Great, war, etc."

No, it's all useless, contaminated filth. It will distance you from God and robs unction from the Christian who listens to it. As for the unsaved, it innoculates their minds from the knowledge of God and keeps Satan's captives locked up tight. How can you not hate this stuff, and rail against it! And call it anything less than what it really is - the filth of the world, the garbage of Satan, by Satan, to accomplish the will of Satan.

Brother Paul

p.s. I'm sorry I've upset you, Krispy. I'm not looking to fight, butyoudid post amazingly fast, and your response was shallow, like a quick defense, telling me to "chill." Can you not see how than can be offensive to me? You posted no thoughtful meat at all. I'm sorry if I came across as judgmental. I repent of that. This discussion can be over, if you like, and we'll leave it at this, for both of us to digest. Pray for my wisdom; I'll pray for yours.

Wow crsschk,

your long post on the first page on this thread is by far the best post i've read in all these music discussions.
Thank you for that.