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Snowdrop Nov 22, 2006

Noting over time that many if not all Christian believers pray or request prayer from and for fellow Christians the world over. Every minute someone is praying (interceding)for others and this is a calling that is a Ministry.That some pray asking Mary the Mother of God to intercede for them cannot surely be offensive to Our God. Honour thy father and thy mother is a command and i am certain that Jesus Christ never ever instructed us not to Honour His Mother Mary as He did and does.Perhaps it would be well to consider that He may never condemn such prayer, but may well condemn the hate from those who hate such prayer.God Bless to all.

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DocH Nov 22, 2006


Snowdrop wrote:
Noting over time that many if not all Christian believers pray or request prayer from and for fellow Christians the world over. Every minute someone is praying (interceding)for others and this is a calling that is a Ministry.That some pray asking Mary the Mother of God to intercede for them cannot surely be offensive to Our God. Honour thy father and thy mother is a command and i am certain that Jesus Christ never ever instructed us not to Honour His Mother Mary as He did and does.Perhaps it would be well to consider that He may never condemn such prayer, but may well condemn the hate from those who hate such prayer.God Bless to all.

For Mary to hear millions of Catholic prayers would have to make her Omniscient and Omnipresent both attributes which belong to God ALONE.

Jesus taught that we should address our prayers to our Father and not to Mary.

Rest assured friend that God does condemn such prayer.

First Commandment: Thou shalt have no other gods before me!

Second commandment: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image...neither shalt thou bow down thyself to them...

Of course the Catholic church has rid itself of the second commandment for obvious reasons.

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Russellshymn Nov 22, 2006

Snowdrop, forbidding prayer to Mary is not dishonoring, but rather honoring of her, even as she honors her God and Savior Jesus! Jesus created Mary, not vise versa. Mary is a devout Hebrew women and she does well to instruct you out of the law of her God! It is surely a grief and shame for you or any one to pray to her or any other saint, and the same goes for angels. Communication with the dead, even dead saints, is a black art called necromancy. It is an abomination to God! If anyone was caught practicing it, they were to be stoned to death! Read the word of God snowdrop, and forsake the traditions of men passed on to you, those traditions nullify the commandments of God! Concerning necromancy, read Deuteronomy 18:10-12. And check out my blog- roman catholic folly.

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InTheLight Nov 22, 2006

Every minute someone is praying (interceding)for others and this is a calling that is a Ministry.That some pray asking Mary the Mother of God to intercede for them cannot surely be offensive to Our God.

This is not a very good argument. Clearly the statues, and the prayers that are said to them, go far beyond what anyone would do in asking a brother or sister to intercede.

Is there one example from the Bible of someone seeking intercession from a deceased person? I for one will ask those whom I know can hear me to join me in prayer.:-)

In Christ,

Ron

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GraceAlone Nov 22, 2006

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,

Deuteronomy 18
10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you.

Hebrews 7:25
"Wherefore he (Jesus) is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."

Deuteronomy 26:14
I have not eaten any of the sacred portion while I was in mourning, nor have I removed any of it while I was unclean, nor have I offered any of it to the dead. I have obeyed the LORD my God; I have done everything you commanded me.

Isaiah 8:19
And when they say to you, “Seek those who are mediums and wizards, who whisper and mutter,” should not a people seek their God? Should they seek the dead on behalf of the living?

Prayer to anybody but God is ABSOLUTELY sinful.

1 John 5:14
14 Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.

John 14:13-14
13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.

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GraceAlone Nov 27, 2006

Jeremiah 7:18
The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger.

Jeremiah 44:17
But we will certainly do whatever has gone out of our own mouth, to burn incense to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her, as we have done, we and our fathers, our kings and our princes, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For then we had plenty of food, were well-off, and saw no trouble.

Jeremiah 44:18
But since we stopped burning incense to the queen of heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have lacked everything and have been consumed by the sword and by famine.”

Jeremiah 44:19
The women also said,“And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven and poured out drink offerings to her, did we make cakes for her, to worship her, and pour out drink offerings to her without our husbands’ permission?”

Jeremiah 44:25
Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying: ‘You and your wives have spoken with your mouths and fulfilled with your hands, saying, “We will surely keep our vows that we have made, to burn incense to the queen of heaven and pour out drink offerings to her.” You will surely keep your vows and perform your vows!’

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