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ChrisJD Dec 2, 2006

[b][color=000000]And Isaac came from the way of the well Lahai-roi; for he dwelt in the south country. And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide:[/color][/b]

Brothers and sisters, do you have something to share that you have seen while alone with the One Who sees? Perhaps you'd like to share a word or some wisdom from the Scripture upon which you've fed and been nourished on as you've meditated upon the Word of God. Maybe there is something from a sermon or elsewhere which has stood out to you or struck you as profound? Here is a place to share these things.

Some things which may be good for us to remember:

Not everything that is revealed to us is for us to share with others.

Love is the rule which is to govern all our actions and love [i]...is not arrogant or rude[/i] and [i][b]does not insist on its own way[/b][/i]

May this be our prayer:

[b][color=000000]That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.[/color][/b]

Peace be with you all in Messiah Jesus

C
ChrisJD Dec 2, 2006

In Psalm 19 it says

"[b][color=000000]The heavens declare the glory of God[/color][/b]"


I heard in a sermon not long ago where Pastor Cymbala mentioned the discovery of a star so vast it would not fit between the Earth and our Sun! Now, I did not try to verify it but if that's true and if I understood what he said correctly, that would mean there is an object in space that is more than [b]93 million miles wide[/b]!!

Ohh..aghh!

Imagine brothers and sisters, being immersed in such vastness. And yet the scripture says...

[b][color=000000]...Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.[/color][/b]

My my.

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Tears_of_joy Dec 2, 2006

Brother, I'm already blessed by sharing your heart! :-)

[b]...Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.[/b]

One of the thoughts thata were flowing over my mind this week were about faith.

Our faith is coming from seeing Him in His Majesty and Greatness! Satan wants to make our God little god. Wants to cover our eyes not to see His Majesty! He covers our eyes with everything, everything possible just to see Him little god.

[b]"The heavens declare the glory of God"[/b]

Yes!

And also:

[b]Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.[/b]

Reading and meditating upon His Word we can see the Greatness of His name! It's not talk with friends, reading novels, watching tv, but reading His Word!

The Lord encouraged my heart not so long time ago with 2 Kings 18 and 19 chapter!

18 And when they had called to the king, there came out to them Eliakim the son of Hilkiah, which was over the household, and Shebna the scribe, and Joah the son of Asaph the recorder.
19 And Rabshakeh said unto them, Speak ye now to Hezekiah, Thus saith the great king, the king of Assyria, What confidence is this wherein thou trustest?
20 Thou sayest, (but they are but vain words,) I have counsel and strength for the war. Now on whom dost thou trust, that thou rebellest against me?
21 Now, behold, thou trustest upon the staff of this bruised reed, even upon Egypt, on which if a man lean, it will go into his hand, and pierce it: so is Pharaoh king of Egypt unto all that trust on him.
22 But if ye say unto me, We trust in the LORD our God: is not that he, whose high places and whose altars Hezekiah hath taken away, and hath said to Judah and Jerusalem, Ye shall worship before this altar in Jerusalem?

....

30[b] Neither let Hezekiah make you trust in the LORD, saying, The LORD will surely deliver us,[/b] and this city shall not be delivered into the hand of the king of Assyria.
...
33 Hath any of the gods of the nations delivered at all his land out of the hand of the king of Assyria?
34 Where are the gods of Hamath, and of Arpad? where are the gods of Sepharvaim, Hena, and Ivah? have they delivered Samaria out of mine hand?
35[b] Who are they among all the gods of the countries, that have delivered their country out of mine hand, that the LORD should deliver Jerusalem out of mine hand?[/b]
36 But the people held their peace, and answered him not a word: for the king's commandment was, saying, Answer him not.

[b][color=000000]14 And Hezekiah received the letter of the hand of the messengers, and read it: and Hezekiah went up into the house of the LORD, and spread it before the LORD.
15 And Hezekiah prayed before the LORD, and said, O LORD God of Israel, which dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; thou hast made heaven and earth.
16 LORD, bow down thine ear, and hear: open, LORD, thine eyes, and see: and hear the words of Sennacherib, which hath sent him to reproach the living God.
17 Of a truth, LORD, the kings of Assyria have destroyed the nations and their lands,
18 And have cast their gods into the fire: for they were no gods, but the work of men's hands, wood and stone: therefore they have destroyed them.
19 Now therefore, O LORD our God, I beseech thee, save thou us out of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD God, even thou only.[/color][/b]

20 Then Isaiah the son of Amoz sent to Hezekiah, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, That which thou hast prayed to me against Sennacherib king of Assyria I have heard.
21 This is the word that the LORD hath spoken concerning him; The virgin the daughter of Zion hath despised thee, and laughed thee to scorn; the daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head at thee.
[color=000066][b]22 Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against the Holy One of Israel.

35 And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.[/color][/b]

(but better read the whole chapters from your own bibles :) )

God bless.

sermonindex Dec 3, 2006

Brother Kire,
I also recently just read that passage in 2 Kings and I love how they prayed on the basis of God's glory being at stake!

But it is heart breaking how the heathen nations' view of God was perverted through Israel worshiping idols. In 2 Chronicles Sennacherib takes it for granted that Jehovah was the God that Israel was worshiping whose idols and altars Hezekiah destroyed.

"Thus saith Sennacherib king of Assyria, Whereon do ye trust, that ye abide in the siege in Jerusalem?
11 Doth not Hezekiah persuade you to give over yourselves to die by famine and by thirst, saying, The LORD our God shall deliver us out of the hand of the king of Assyria?
12 [b]Hath not the same Hezekiah taken away his high places and his altars, and commanded Judah and Jerusalem, saying, Ye shall worship before one altar, and burn incense upon it?[/b]" 2 Chronicles 32:10-12

Israel was to be showing the heathen nations how to worship God! Oh, what about us Christians and the hypocrisy the world sees? Does that not bring the same shame on Christ' name that it brought on Jehovah for Israel to be worshiping idols? What is especially heartbreaking is how Christians strive and sow discord among the brethren. It's one of the most awful things when Christians start to whisper. I think we lose sight of how we are to be representing Christ to the world.
Is my light shining as it should be?

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ChrisJD Dec 9, 2006

Hi everyone.

Brother Kire, I appologise for not replying sooner. I appreicate your heart in sharing, thank you!

Our faith is coming from seeing Him in His Majesty and Greatness! Satan wants to make our God little god. Wants to cover our eyes not to see His Majesty! He covers our eyes with everything, everything possible just to see Him little god.

How true brother! Yet isn't this something peculiar about our faith also, that, it is by a certain kind of seeing, a revelation, [i]and[/i] faith, that we enter in, by a seeing within and not so much without. I think of what the scripture says


[b][color=000000] But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.[/color][/b]

Our Jewish forefathers saw how great our God is in the Exodus and in the wilderness, yet He said of them

[b][color=000000]...they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.[/color][/b]

and though they had seen His glory, and miracles, still He said they had

[b][color=000000]tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;[/color][/b]

Ohh brother, how we need the inward revelation of God, that revelation to our inner man.

I think just now of the Lord's words where He said of the Holy Spirit

[b][color=660033] He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.[/color][/b]

How precious this is. Do we covet such? Do we long to see the Lord Jesus through the Holy Spirit and for the grace to walk in accordance with the vision?

I confess that I have not treasured these things nearly as much as I should have in the past. So much abundance of revelations that I recieved after turning to the Lord which I did not keep nearly so dear to me as I should have. Our spiritual eyesight is so precious.

Christopher

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ChrisJD Dec 9, 2006

[i]In following my last post, I thought it would be appropriate to share something which I saw this week in my morning devotions. In the providence of God I have been taking public transportation to work for some time now, and this has given me more time to devote to the reading of the Word and other Christian works.[/i]

In speaking with [i]Jehovah's Witnesses[/i] about the doctrine they teach concerning the resurrection of the Lord Jesus from the dead, they will sometimes make mention of the fact that the disciples did not always recognise Him after His resurrection. This can be rightly understood, not as they say, "that He had a spirit body", but as the scripture explains, for instance in Luke 24:16

[b][color=000000] ...their eyes were [u]holden[/u] [i]that they should not know him[/i].[/color][/b]

This week I saw something else which, though speaking to this point, spoke even further to me.

[b]Jesus hid Himself[/b]


[b][color=000000] Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.[/color][/b]

Speaking to the Jews, after He had told them that Abraham had rejoiced to see His day, The Lord made one of the clearest declarations of His person and being found in Scripture:

[b][color=000000]Jesus said unto them,[/color][/b]

[b][color=660033]Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.[/color][/b]

It should be plain, as it appears it was to the Jews who heard these awesome words(for they intended to kill Him on the spot), exactly Who Jesus claimed He was. He did not, for instance, say 'before Abraham was, I was', although that would have been as accurate and unambiguous to His hearers as would be nescessary to remain honest, if He had intended to convey to them that He merely existed in some form, before Abraham. That isn't what He said though.

You and I know very well Who the Lord Jesus claimed to be when He uttered those powerfull words - even the same One that spoke to Moses from the burning bush:

[b][color=000000] And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.[/color][/b]

Well, that is fairly plain to see, isn't it? But in the next verse I noticed something else. I'd noticed it before, but as I saw it this time, and looked a bit closer, I noticed something I hand't seen before. Here's the next verse, John 8:59:

[b][color=000000]Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.[/color][/b]

Did you see that? Right there towards the middle.

It says

[color=000000]'Jesus hid himself'[/color]

Isn't that interesting? Now, like I said, I've noticed that before; I always thought, alright, He's the LORD, He hid himself and got away from them. But how? This time, as I examined this passage closer and thought about 'the how', something else stood out: see there afterwards it says He went [i]through the midst of them[/i] and even [i]passed by[/i]. Well now, how exactly did He do that? How did He just walk through a crowd of people who were threatening Him with rocks!

[b]Hidden, but not out of view[/b]

If that seems like a difficult question to answer, it gets even more difficult as you read on. You might notice that the next verse begins a new chapter. As I read this this week it was fresh in my mind that these chapter breaks are not in the original texts as I'd heard that mentioned somewhere recently. So if you read it without the break, the flow seems to be that Jesus [i]passed by[/i] [b]and[/b] [i]as Jesus passed by[/i]...[b][color=000000] he saw a man which was blind from his birth.[/color][/b] In other words, no inturruption.

Well, if that's true, then the next verse [b]really[/b] sticks out like sore thumb:

[b][color=000000] And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?[/color][/b]

What? How is it that the Lord just passed through an angry mob and now He's stopped to talk with His disciples about a blind man? How is it that they knew where He was, and even followed Him?

[b]Thou hast hidden these things[/b]

Something I've learned in being confronted with the Word of God as I read it(yes I do mean confronted) is that when you find a passage that seems to be contradictory, or strange, or just flat out impossible, that's a good indication that God has hidden something there and is inviting the honest seeker to do some digging. It could be that He is also setting a stumbling block before the the scoffer and the skeptic.

So, how is it the disciples knew who Jesus was and were asking Him about this blind man? How exactly did He hide Himself from the mob to begin with? I think the answer is the same as with the disciples, [i]after[/i] His resurrection - [b][color=000000] their eyes were holden that they should not know him.[/color][/b]

How beautifull is that, brothers and sisters - that while the Lord had hidden Himself from the view of those Who rejected His claims to Deity, He revealed Himself to those who embraced Him, to those who were His? What follows this is the story of a man who was blind from birth, whom the Lord Jesus heals. Isn't he in a sense like us all. Have we not all been blind from birth - blind to our own sinfullness and need of God?

The religous leaders were right when they said of the man

Thou wast altogether born in sins

Yet, he recieved a double cure of the Lord, for he said to the Lord

Lord, I believe.

and the scripture says [b][color=000000]he worshipped Him.[/color][/b]

But sadly, of the religous leaders, the Lord said

[b][color=660033]If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.[/color][/b]

[b][color=660033]...For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.[/color][/b]

Does the Lord Hide Himself today? And reveal Himself as He will? Maybe the Lord is hiding Himself from you brother, or from you sister. If so, we will be confident together that He does so for our good. And that He will shew Himself to us again, when the time is right. In the meantime, let us seek after Him, with all our heart.


[b][color=000000] Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.[/color][/b]


Edited 08 Dec, 2006, 10 PM. [i]Changed 'different body' to 'spirit body' as I think this more accurately reflects my understanding of the beliefes of this group as I have encountered them.[/i]

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Tears_of_joy Dec 9, 2006

Brother Chris, bless you! Do you know that I am reading and meditating on these things past few weeks! Your post is such confirmation and blessing to me.

Those who believed Him, they [b]worshiped[/b] Him, because Jesus open their heart to see Him, Who He really Is -

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: [b]God was manifest in the flesh, [/b]

Isa 9:6 ...and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, [b]The mighty God,[/b] The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

And to the others who wanted to stone Him, just because of that,
Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and [b]because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.[/b]

Their eyes were blind to see Him, that He is "I AM". Their eyes were blind for the prophicies of the Scripture.

Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, [b]not knowing the scriptures,[/b] nor the power of God.

But, Oh when Jesus opens our eyes to see Him!

Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and [b]slow of heart to believe[/b] all that the prophets have spoken:
Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, [b]he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.[/b]
Luk 24:31 [b][u]And their eyes were opened, and they knew him;[/b][/u] and he vanished out of their sight.

And what a wonderful revelation and confession:

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, [b]My Lord and my God.[/b]

Brother, do we understand this verse, the meaning in it:

Col 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been[u][b] hid from ages[/b][/u] and from generations, [b]but now is made manifest to his saints: [/b]

[i]Oh that we might see...that we might see[/i]

C
ChrisJD Dec 25, 2007

There is a differnce...


between passion and unction


between zeal and the wind that blows where it listeth


between the religous vigilante and the prophet that slew Agag.

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