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DoulosQuinn Dec 24, 2006

Jesus Christ or Islam?

Consider a closer look, I beg you to even copy this, and paste it into a WORD document to save and read a few times, to also keep available for reference, even further investigation if needed.

“This exposure often motivates Christians to make the extra effort that it takes to bring the good news to Muslims. There is an attitude in Christian circles that Muslims may be worshipping the same God as Christians so it would be better just to leave them alone. This paper argues that the god of the Quran is not the God of the Bible. The teachings of Islam hurt the lives of its followers. Islam is like a stale, moldy crust of bread. Following Jesus is like a fresh, warm loaf right out of the oven. Christians must see that what they offer Muslims is wonderful and life-giving for them. Also to awaken the Christian scholarly community to the radical differences between Islam and Christianity. Too many scholars try every possible means to demonstrate common ground between Islam and Christianity. Committed Christian scholars need to honestly present the truth about differences between the fundamental teachings of both faiths.” Ex-muslim scholar Dr. Mark A. Gabriel

Did you know in the Koran (Qu’ran) in Surah Allah is called the greatest deceiver?
The Qu’ran teaches outright that Allah is capable of lying and deceiving people. In fact, one of the titles which the Quran ascribes to Allah is khayru al-makireen, that Allah is "the best deceiver / schemer / conniver" ( Surah 3:54; 8:30).
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Do you know who the father of all lies is? (John 8:44)The Bible identifies him as Satan. He has these people bound in a hopeless religion, many with hard hearts, thinking that he’s the creator, and they can earn his favor…

“And when those who disbelieve plot against thee [O Mohammed] to wound thee fatally, or to kill thee or to drive thee forth; they plot, but Allah [also] plotteth; and Allah is the best of plotters”(Surat Al-Anfal 8:30)

“Fight them and Allah will torture (literal translation) them by your hands, and disgrace them, help you [to victory] over them, “(Surat Al-Tawbah 9;14)

“So, when you meet (in fight—Jihad in Allah’s Cause) those who disbelieve, smite (their) necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives).” (Surah 47:4)

“O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you; and know that Allah is with those who are Al-Muttaqun (the pious)” (Surah 9:123).

The Quran also speaks of the use of terror as a strategy of war. Muslims were told prepare themselves with the greatest possible military might so that they could cause terror among their enemies.

“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom you may not know, but whom Allah knows” (Surah 8:59–60).

Through the Quran, Allah commanded Muhammad to kill large numbers of those he had defeated before taking prisoners, which would intimidate the people of the area.

“It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land” (Surah 8:67).

The Quran also used the threat of terrorism (in the form of mutilation) in an effort to persuade Christians and Jews to convert to Islam. This happens constantly in Darfur, and other nations where Islam is advancing. It is not quite comparable to the missionary practices Christians follow. This Following quote is from The Noble Quran in English, which uses comments in parentheses to explain the Arabic meanings of the text.

“O you who have been given the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Believe in what We have revealed (to Muhammad) confirming what is (already) with you, before We efface faces (by making them like the back of necks; without nose, mouth, eyes) and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers. And the commandment of Allah is always executed” (Surah 4:47).

When fighting Christians, the Quran says to punish them severely so they will leave their homes and be dispersed, as to be terrorized into submission

“So if you gain mastery over them in war, punish them severely in order to disperse those who are behind them, so that they may learn a lesson” (Surah 8:57)

Is Allah the same GOD as the HOLY Bible? Not according either side, YaHWeY loves sinners “…for GOD so loved the world…” (John 3:16) but hates sin. Allah Hates sinners "Allah does not like anyone who is a betrayer, a sinner." (Surah 4:107, 2:276, 42:40…)

Is Islam a religion of peace? Not according to the Qu’ran after Abrogation, which is when verses are no longer applicable because Allah changed his mind, so verses can only be used to deceive [which is a fundamental obligation justified under strict interpretation of the Qu’ran.

“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.” (Surah 2:256). This verse says, “You can’t force anybody to change their religion. The right way should be obvious.”

Other verses in the Quran say that Christians and Jews will be accepted by God if they practice their own religion. “If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side.” [10] (Surah 5:66).

People who say Islam is a religion of peace point to these verses. However, these verses were a part of the early revelations Muhammad received regarding those who rejected Islam. Muhammad was presenting a peaceful religion at this time because Muhammad had only a few followers, and they were all vulnerable, but Islam didn’t stay weak.

The Aggressive Years. Muhammad and his followers were persecuted in Mecca, so they went to Medina. Muhammad again attempted to persuade people with words. This lasted for about a year. Then Muhammad launched a new strategy based on power. He declared jihad (holy war) with the goal of converting nonbelievers to Islam by the sword. One of his new revelations stated:

“Kill the Mushrikun [unbelieving in Allah] wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush.” (Surah 9:5).

This “verse of the sword,” as it is now known, contradicted earlier revelations such as Surah 2:256 above.

Another later revelation declared a similar judgment against Christians and Jews.

“And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e., worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” (Surah 8:39).

Muhammad preached this new philosophy until his death. In one of his last sermons he declared:

”After today there will no longer be two religions existing in Arabia any more. I descended by Allah with the sword in my hand and my wealth will come from the shadow of my sword. And the one who will disagree with me will be humiliated and persecuted.” [hadith of Al-Bukhari]

back to Abrogation. How does Islam “Qu’ranically” (as opposed to Biblically) deal with contradictions between earlier revelations and later revelations?

“Whatever a Verse (revelation) Allah abrogates or causes to be forgotten, Allah will bring a better one or similar to it. Know you not that Allah is able to do all things?” (Surah 2:106)
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Many would think that winning them with good works is an effective ministry, rather then reasoning with them logically / Biblically. Yet Muslims are taught that when their enemies serve them (hospitals / disaster relief) it is because Allah has compelled the heathens against their will to serve muslims because of their devoutness. Even more of a reason to take GOD at HIS WORD, “…faith comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD...” (Romans 10:17)

Here is a great article that is relevant http://www.calvarypo.org/pages/hands/0363.html

We can not win the war against Islam unless we surrender our lives to Jesus Christ, and follow HIM. Because the WORD says fight evil with good. But the good we need to fight evil with is not as some carnal men standing on golden pulpits would portray it, it is not a “quiet love” that is needed, this unbiblical Christianity the last few generations of “fathers” have pedaled, stands proudly in contrast to The WORD (Proverbs 27:5). To love as we would want to be loved, is to be reached, reasoned with, confronted by unwavering truth…like Jesus Christ does. We can not convert, save, or coerce anyone into becoming a genuine Christian. That is a work of GOD alone. But HE is with us, and our Father can help us to walk as HE walked and be HIS hands and feet. As we love HIM because HE first loved us, it is HIS love in us that is evident to all (2Cor2:16) With eyes turned truly toward HIM, lovingkindness leads to repentance. HE is the living GOD who is not willing that any perish. What can man do to us? (Isaiah 8:13) These threats or passing sufferings can not compare to what awaits us in HIS presence forever. Why not win eternal friends? Stand in HIS strength, it’s HIS faith, not Abraham’s, that moves mountains, and gives men second birth. “A man is no fool to give up what he can not keep to gain what he can not loose.” Pray for the courageous, selfless love of Jesus Christ to become your own. We overcome by HIS blood, Martyr (witness) not loving our lives to death (Revelation 12:11). HIS glory is better shown in one laying down his life, not building earthy kingdoms or even “ministries” with thousands of ears to tickle, or tithes received.

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BereanMinded Dec 24, 2006

I see your point, but most people just want to ignore them, and hope they'll go away because GOD won't let them destroy Israel.

If a muslim asks me why I believe in Jesus I will tell him.

I had no idea how many verses were so clear in the Qu'ran.

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DoulosQuinn Dec 25, 2006

Hello friend,
I like I said, want the saints to be stirred to share actively, which when you see the seriousness of the bondage they are under in this religion, we should be moved with compassion to cry, fast pray, be informed. To let the LORD use us as vessels of honor. I sited many Qu'ranic passages that if with real concern and the love of Jesus, are welded to draw the light of the WORD through the scriptures could snap of these chains.LORD help us.

sermonindex Dec 25, 2006

A dear brother who runs the ministry: www.timothyministry.com wrote this sobering article on Islam:

[b]The Truth About Islam[/b]
[i]by Eli Brayley[/i]

Islam originated in c. 610 AD by Muhammad the Qurayshis, a well-to-do merchant living in the city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia, who began to receive revelations from 'Allah' which would continue for the next 23 years until his death in 632. These revelations were later recorded into a book which is known as the Qu'ran, and today more than 1.4 billion people follow the teachings of the Qu'ran and are known as Muslims. What many people do not know is that 'Allah' does not exist and Muhammad is a false prophet, and those who adhere to his teachings are actually giving heed to "seducing spirits and doctrines of devils." (1 Timothy 4:1)


THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD

When Muhammad first received these revelations he would be gripped by epileptic seizures and fits of convulsions. Muhammad himself doubted whether his revelations were from God or not, even fearing that he was demon possessed:

"Naturally he was scared, and intimated to his wife, Khadija, the fear that he might even be possessed by an evil spirit . . . Stricken with panic, Muhammad arose and asked himself, "What did I see? Did possession of the devil which I feared all along come to pass?" . . . When he calmed down, he cast toward his wife the glance of a man in need of rescue and said, "O Khadijah, what has happened to me?" He told her of his experience and intimated to her his fear that his mind had finally betrayed him, and that he was becoming a seer or a man possessed." [Haykal, The Life of Muhammad, p.73-75]

"That he was possessed by a Jinni - for him, with his beliefs, an evil spirit - was his first thought, and only gradually did he come to the conviction that this was divine inspiration, and not diabolical obsession." [MacDonald, The Religious Attitude and Life in Islam, p. 33]

According to Muhammad, it was the archangel Gabriel who appeared to him and delivered these Qu'ranic revelations. The Bible says, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8) Eventually, not without hesitation, did he declare that his visions were from God. Muhammad was wrong.

In 622, Muhammad and his followers were expelled from Mecca and moved to Medina where they created the very first Muslim community, and then proceeded to wage war against the Meccans. After eight years of bloodshed, the Muslims conquered the city with a force of ten thousand men and established Mecca as the Islamic capital of the world. After the capture of Mecca, many of the Arabian tribes joined Muhammad and coverted to Islam. Muhammad sent out his commanders to spread Islam with this command:

"When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to [accept] Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them." [Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4294]

Many Muslims today will tell you that Islam is a religion of peace, however history proves them wrong. Their founder and leader was man of war who shed blood and conquered by the sword. Compare Muhammad with Jesus: Our Lord never used a sword. Our Lord restrained Peter from using a sword. Our Lord commanded us to love our enemies. Our Lord said to Pilate, "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight." (John 18:36) Muhammad's kingdom was of this world.

Muhammad was Biblically disqualified from being a spiritual leader or prophet according to Titus 1:6-9: "If any be blameless, the husband of one wife..." Muhammad was a polygamist, who even married a girl nine years of age, "...no striker..." which disqualifies him on account of his violence, and "...holding fast the faithful word..." Muhammad changed and manipulated the Bible to suit his own religion, forsaking sound doctrine for "cunningly devised fables", as we shall see in the next section.


THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD

"He has revealed to you the Book of truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Torah and the Gospel aforetime, a guidance for the people, and He sent the Qu'ran." (Surah 3:3)

Muhammad firmly taught that the Bible, Old and New Testament, were given by 'Allah' and were to be obeyed as the Word of God. The Qu'ran refers to Christians and Jews as "People of the Book"; those to whom the Bible was given. Both Moses and Jesus are considered prophets in Islam. However, Muhammad runs into a major problem here because the Qu'ran seriously and fundamentally contradicts the Bible on nearly every important issue. For example:

-the Qu'ran says Allah made His covenant with Ishmael. The Bible says God made His covenant with Isaac
-the Qu'ran says that blood does not atone for sins. The Bible says that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins
-the Qu'ran says Allah has no begotten Son. The Bible says that God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son
-the Qu'ran says that Jesus was just another prophet. The Bible says that Jesus is the Christ
-the Qu'ran says that Jesus was just a man. The Bible says that Jesus is Lord
-the Qu'ran says that Jesus did not die on the cross. The Bible says that Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins

In light of such monumental discrepancies, how could Muhammad have made the claim that the Bible and the Qu'ran were both the Word of God? There's only one thing he could do... Muhammad declared that the Bible had been corrupted and altered, and that the Qu'ran was Allah's answer to the problem, verifying the truth that had been lost by the People of the Book. To the Jews, this is an insult. To the Christians, this is a joke.

The Jewish people love the Law; they value and esteem it above all else that is in the world, so much so that they even missed their own Messiah because of their inordinate love for the written Word of God (John 5:39-40). To say that they corrupted the Bible would insult their very Jewishness. Hebrew scholars were the 'computers' of their day. If a new scroll erred at all, even in punctuation, it was discarded and burned. Hebrew letters are also numbers, and if the sum of a new text was not equal to the sum of the original text the scroll was destroyed. With other such precautions scribes diligently supervised the Holy Scriptures' preservation. Perfection was demanded. There is no way the Jews corrupted their most beloved possession. Certainly Jesus did not think it was corrupted: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18)

To the Christians, Muhammad's claim is ridiculous and without reasonable basis. Muhammad was suggesting that in less than 600 years the New Testament was perverted; it's authentic Gospel unable to decipher. Athiests often make this assumption as well, but fact affirms the opposite. The Ante-Nicean fathers (those elders immediately following the twelve Apostles, appointed by the Apostles themselves) wrote extensive commentaries on the New Testament Scriptures, quoting every verse that we have in our present day Bible (with the exception of thirteen, found mainly in 2nd and 3rd John). These writings prove that the Bible was not in the least corrupted, but that the Scriptures we have today are as authentic as the Scriptures used in the days of the Apostles. And if perfect today, how much more only 600 years after? Muhammad's claim is absurd, and he argues against God who said, "All flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth forever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you." (1 Peter 1:24-25) God will not suffer His Word to be moved.

It is on this point that Islam ultimately falls through. If the Bible was corrupted, then the Qu'ran might of had a chance, but because the Word of God stands sure forever, the Qu'ran has absolutely no authority and Islam crumbles to pieces. It is the word of ancient history or the word of modern manipulation. It is the word of eyewitnesses or the word of an uninformed epileptic. It is the Word of God or the word of a man possessed by devils. Let the facts decide for you.


THE TRUTH

Emperor Manuel II Paleologus of Byzantine said in 1391: "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." This was said during a time of great Islamic expansion, and I fear we are on the breaking point of another such episode. Islam is not a religion of peace: they will blow us up just for questioning their peaceful intentions and thus prove the point. The Bible prophesied of the enmity which would be between the world and the Muslims. "And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren." (Genesis 16:11-12) The Bible is swollen with fulfilled prophecy, yet the Qu'ran does not utter a single one.

I write this for those dear Muslims who are deceived by the lies of the devil through this man Muhammad. Jesus said, "If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink." (John 7:37) You may find yourself dying of thirst in the desert like Hagar and Ishmael because of your sins, and you know that if you don't find drink you will die. The Bible says that the Father loved you so much He gave Jesus Christ His own Son to died on the cross for your sins and bear your iniquities so that you can be delivered. Isa is your Well of ZamZam. If you repent today and call upon God to save you, you shall be saved, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." (Romans 10:13)

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DoulosQuinn Dec 25, 2006

This is good stuff, I have an audio sermon from Britt Merek that is really good...do you want it?

Dr. James MacDonald (walk in the WORD) gave a very good sermon on it...could you get that?

An awsome site is www.markagabriel.org
Thanks Quinn

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IRONMAN Dec 25, 2006

brethren
all this is very timely. yesterday i was talking with a lady on my job who is muslim concerning her faith and explaining to her the need for Christ as saviour. by His grace i showed her that allah and God are not the same.this is some much needed information which i shall share with her. she said something about getting me a koran in the hopes that i might convert...of course i told her i'd do no such thing. it goes without saying that anyone who on the last day has not received the gospel of grace will be cast into the lake of fire from which there is no return. she seemed amazed by my tenacity but who would not be unrelenting if the alternative is a punishment so dire...pray God's grace at this time that He would move and say and do what needs to be done.

at first she didn't seem too bothered but yesterday i feel she was pricked because she did start looking up some things to try and prove Islam was real and cited some papers and articles which God gave me grace enough to refute. the main thing was that the paracleet (sp) which was spoken of in the gospels she said was mohammed. Mohammed came 600+ yrs after Christ and HE told the disciples to wait in Jerusalem for the Comforter who was to come which was HOly SPirit. i pray our Lord breaks down these false walls in her life for His own sake. AMEN. in looking at the account of MOhammed's calling, i can see that he is no prophet for no other prophet of God ever felt as he did, even to the point of contemplating suicide. Jeremiah, Isaiah and some of the others were distressed deeplly because all of a sudden their iniquity was laid bare before them. also no prophet of God ever so leaned on his wife as mohammed did, they leaned on God Himself...

i covet your prayers brethren.

God bless you all.

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iansmith Dec 26, 2006

Shame on you all!

I suggest you all read Light Force by Brother Andrew before you say one more ignorant hate filled word about the believers of islam.

http://www.amazon.com/Light-Force-Stirring-Account-Crossfire/dp/0800731042/sr=8-1/qid=1167105356/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-5785122-1268945?ie=UTF8&s=books

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DoulosQuinn Dec 26, 2006

Ian, did you go to Peninsula High School?

but...I will not be ashamed of the gospel, it is the power of GOD to save...save drunks...sorcerors...anyone who would believe.
Even people held in bonds by a false religion, that would lead them to hell. If I didn't HATE that lie I would be heartless and cruel, and the reality of Jesus' love is evident in that I would get prepared to reach out to them, and expose the dark lies Satan has bond them with...these can be reasoned out!

As for Brother Andrew, I refuse to pay good money to read the thoughts of a priest of Baal in his ecumenical efforts to bring us under one great "Roman umbrella." (Crsschk is this contentious? or Matter of fact?)

You should study up on the origins of the the Catholic church like where the quenn is from, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiramis

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DoulosQuinn Dec 26, 2006

Praise GOD brother I am praying for you, and I hope that you filled with the Spirit of GOD, and HIS HOLY pure love, for that woman. It is like pulling teeth to turn eyes toward the light when the fear loosing their identiy, and family but Let GOD open each door brother.

Please reason with her about her need for salvation, and desire for real asurance (Islam denies both) Do not reveal the greatest deceiver verse until it is desperatly needed, speak to her the WORD of GOD about Christ's love, you don't have to cite address's (John 3:16, Hebrews 1:3 etc) Because faith come by hearing GOD's WORD, that don't return void.

GOD bless you brother

sermonindex Dec 26, 2006

Amen.
Islam is a terrible cult that threatens the world and whose foundations are of the Devil.
The forces of anti-semetism [luther] that promoted Hitler are busy with a new crowd- wake up free world!
jj

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crsschk Dec 26, 2006

The life of a moderator ...

Shame on you all! I suggest you all read Light Force by Brother Andrew before you say one more ignorant hate filled word about the believers of islam.

As for Brother Andrew, I refuse to pay good money to read the thoughts of a priest of Baal in his ecumenical efforts to bring us under one great "Roman umbrella." (Crsschk is this contentious? or Matter of fact?)

Ian, Quinn ...

No need to jump to conclusions either way here. Not unlike ourselves, putting everything under one umbrella is not only difficult, it is also impossible.

There is enough obvious warrant for what is wrong as a construct to raise an indignation, but we are also still talking about those caught up in it's trappings. Ian, I think your going beyond what is stated to shame everyone here.

Quinn, I think you also are going way on to unwise conclusions about Brother Andrew. His is no ecumenical effort that I am aware of, and that which preceded this ... poor words there, very poor, ... that is a very serious charge.

Give a listen to some of these from his own lips;

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=246] Unhindered[/url]

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=2931]A Special Message (1st service) [/url]

If memory serves me correctly they are parts of the same time frame and he talks quite a bit about his efforts to the Muslims.

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DoulosQuinn Dec 27, 2006

I think that exposing eccumenism is being too critical,I don't mean for people to take it personally, they choose too by hardening their heart to GOD's uncomprimisable truth

I really think people that stay associated with the Catholic heresy, are in a really hard spot to find peace in GOD's grace.

(because etusian grace is related to sacraments that are unbiblical)

So...if your assurance & comfort is from some mother...church, and not the living GOD alone that is a false security.

Crsschk have you read "brother" Andrews book, please read the first post in this forum...Allah is not the same as the true GOD we worship (infinately differant)

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DoulosQuinn Dec 27, 2006

I think that exposing eccumenism is being too critical,I don't mean for people to take it personally, they choose too by hardening their heart to GOD's uncomprimisable truth

I really think people that stay associated with the Catholic heresy, are in a really hard spot to find peace in GOD's grace.

(because Etruscan grace is related to sacraments that are unbiblical)

So...if your assurance & comfort is from some mother...church, and not the living GOD alone that is a false security.

Crsschk have you read "brother" Andrews book, please read the first post in this forum...Allah is not the same as the true GOD we worship (infinately differant)

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crsschk Dec 28, 2006

Crsschk have you read "brother" Andrews book, please read the first post in this forum...Allah is not the same as the true GOD we worship (infinately differant)

Which? His most recent, no. "God's smuggler", yes!
Have you read it? A tremendous account it is.

I did read the first post and am not sure where you are leaping to a conclusion about ecumenicism and Brother Andrew. Do you know anything about his ministry? It's an honest question not an accusation. Exposing ecumenicism is fine, just as long as you have your facts straight. That is still a very strong and poor statement you made earlier Quinn, in light of all this.

Did you listen to the messages?

sermonindex Dec 28, 2006

I want to ask you a question:

are you ready to die?

(I beg pardon, I didnt mean that as a threat, God forbid, but as a sober-minded, for real question)

are you ready to die?

coz "they" are.

hear me, a day is coming when 9/11 will seem like a mosquito bite, I tell you the truth, so..

are you ready to die?

let me ask you this: would you have the courage to put your full name, address and phone number next to a post like this?(your original post, the one that started this thread)

do you know what a fatwa is?

I'm sure you do, but let me tell you, a fatwa in islam is a clerical edict commanding followers of islam to do this or do that, and that includes killing infidels.

So when you put a post like this, on a forum that is now worldwide, you ratchet up the hatred.
you speak hasty and without wisdom, like a child, and I beg your forgiveness for that statement, but be real...these folks, these jihadis are ready to die, and they are more than willing to KILL for their god.

I've been scanning islamic discussions forums in english, and I notice that they are very very careful about what they say on their forums. Google them sometime, believe me, our intel agencies do, then I have to ask you, do you think they, the followers of allah, might be googling us?

Its fine to witness the truth, but what you are doing is spilling gasoline all over the kitchen floor, don't be suprised at what happens when the match is lit.

Frankly Quinn, your type worries me. A war over religion has just begun, thank God, that right now, its just Sunni killing Shia and vice versa.
But, give it time, it will change, Christendom versus Islam.

You come onto this forum tossing gasoline around, and you have a pack of matches in your hand, no discernment, no wisdom, a bull in a china shop.

I say that to you with respect, but truthfullness, for the post I read DID NOTHING to lift up the Ministry of Jesus, and did everything to further the cause of death and destruction in the name of religion.

This forum is worldwide, I hope you realize that, and may God protect you is my prayer, may God protect us all, they are coming.

sermonindex Dec 28, 2006

Quinn, you wrote:

As for Brother Andrew, I refuse to pay good money to read the thoughts of a priest of Baal in his ecumenical efforts to bring us under one great "Roman umbrella." (Crsschk is this contentious? or Matter of fact?)

I'll answer that question, its contentious and immature, and you should prayerfully consider a long hiatus from this forum.

fore if i had the burden (and I mean BURDEN) of moderatoring this forum, that would have already been done.

sermonindex Dec 28, 2006

this is the first time I ever listened to Brother Andrew...praise God, preaching in the only evangelical church in Gaza, what a follower of Jesus.

Quinn, listen to "unhindered".

Mike, thanks for turning me onto this man.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Dec 28, 2006

Hi bartle...

If you ever get the opportunity, read Brother Andrew's book "[i]God's Smuggler[/i]." It is cowritten by John and Elizabeth Sherrill (co-writers of [i]The Cross and the Switchblade[/i] with David Wilkerson and [i]The Hiding Place[/i] with Corrie ten Boom).

It was one of the first books that I read following my conversion. It is both thrilling and encouraging to read about the effort that Brother Andrew undertook in order to bring "illegal" Bibles to Communist nations.

:-)

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DoulosQuinn Dec 29, 2006

yes I'm ready when the LORD allows me to die for HIS name.

By the way I am not spilling the gasoline, Islam is doing that sir. Still you are very well informed, still keep true perpective Christ is the only way.

they are not just wearing dynomite belts to kill people, they are being allowed unhindered like lemings to leap into hell one after another.

I will be killed...because I love muslims like Jesus Christ does...look at the blood shed to bear fruit as the church of China.

When I first came into the kingdom I prayed that the LORD would use my death to build HIS church. I am still praying HE will prepare me according to HIS good pleasure

"though HE slay me...yet I will trust in HIM" Job 13:15

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DoulosQuinn Dec 29, 2006

Ecumenicism is unacceptable,

when loyalty to the LORD is compromised for unity it is worse them "immature"

I was being loud but in a crucial point, and LORD willing will continue unless driven out,

Could you see EliJaH "shoot'n the breeze" with the priests he later killed? No way, my brother EliJah would probable be killed, commited as "psycotic" for his "hostile religious delusions" by people that think they know the LORD.

because The Catholic chuch is not Christian...far from it, I was stateing fact's the religion is rooted from worship of Baal. I have been a passionate student of the early church, I am agaste at people that believe you can be Catholic & at the same time be born again...can a born again believer be in good standing with the Mormon church?...No.

As for "the burden of the LORD...the burden of the LORD"

The LORD's yoke is easy and HIS is burden is lite.

Fortunatly HE hates people who lord over others faith (Rev 2:6, 2:15, 2Cor 1:24) we are to be servant leaders that only do what is prescribed, when nessisary for the body. So we have less presure then those trying to do more then GOD.

We are to speak the truth in love, HIS love.

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