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Rom. 4-6 "In this way we are like the various parts of a human body. Each part gets its meaning from the body as a whole, not the other way around. The body we're talking about is Christ's body of chosen people. Each of us finds our meaning and function as a part of his body. But as a chopped-off finger or cut-off toe we wouldn't amount to much, would we? So since we find ourselves fashioned into all these excellently formed and marvelously functioning parts in Christ's body, let's just go ahead and be what we were made to be, without enviously or pridefully comparing ourselves with each other, or trying to be something we aren't."

Anybody see it??

Orm

Yea... it's a tremendously horrible "interpretation" of God's Holy Word. Also, it seems to be focussing more on building an individual's self esteem rather than making the real point of what Paul was trying to say, which is... we are all one in Christ, and God has distributed His gifts among the body of believers as He sees fit according to His soveriegn plan.

I'm not sure why someone felt the need to murder the text... I think the KJV is perfectly clear in this particular verse. This type of "paraphrasing" (if you can call it that) might be good for a 5 yr old, but it baffles my mind why 40 year people who have English as their first language think they need scripture dumbed down to this level. Doesnt say much for our public school systems, does it? Another reason why we homeschool... and why our boys have learned to read using the KJV. We can debate which version is better all day long, but no can argue against the superiority of the English language of the KJV.

Krispy

KrispyKrittr wrote:
Yea... it's a tremendously horrible "interpretation" of God's Holy Word. Also, it seems to be focussing more on building an individual's self esteem rather than making the real point of what Paul was trying to say, which is... we are all one in Christ, and God has distributed His gifts among the body of believers as He sees fit according to His soveriegn plan.

I'm not sure why someone felt the need to murder the text... I think the KJV is perfectly clear in this particular verse. This type of "paraphrasing" (if you can call it that) might be good for a 5 yr old, but it baffles my mind why 40 year people who have English as their first language think they need scripture dumbed down to this level. Doesnt say much for our public school systems, does it? Another reason why we homeschool... and why our boys have learned to read using the KJV. We can debate which version is better all day long, but no can argue against the superiority of the English language of the KJV.

Krispy

Hi Krispy!!

Apparently this thread isn't of much value in the scheme of most posters ambitions.
The verses I lifted came from "The Message". You probably guessed that already.
I find it a good practice to make the comparisons for the sake of most others who don't... especially those who are taught by the liberal "consensus" church. What an abortion the book is! What an aid to their small group facilitating.

Orm

There's a new Bible version out there (not sure of the name and version and don't really want to know) that was okayed by the Bishop of Westminister that replaced "husband" and "wife" with "partner" and goes so far as to replace Paul's advice to, if you can't remain single and in Christ, "marry" - well they replace it with "find a partner" without reference to marriage.

Ugh.

Gender neutral bible? Oh, this has gone too far.

Someone, somewhere's gonna burn for this.

If you're not comfortable with your translation, change it. If you are, good.

So accuracy of what you're reading doesnt matter? Thats like saying "Make hamburgers out of whatever you want... beef, cardboard, marshmellows... it doesnt matter as long as you have something called a hamburger and you're eating it."

Krispy

KrispyKrittr wrote:

If you're not comfortable with your translation, change it. If you are, good.

So accuracy of what you're reading doesnt matter? Thats like saying "Make hamburgers out of whatever you want... beef, cardboard, marshmellows... it doesnt matter as long as you have something called a hamburger and you're eating it."

Krispy

And of course, you wear it out.

enid wrote:
Same old same old.

That's your fault, brother. Don't lay it at other's feet who only desire to have their senses made accute to what the Lord is saying; what has been hidden by those who pervert His gospel and is now being revealed to those who truly seek to know Him, to love Him. The old way is the best way and it is by revelation and insight and only to those who are hungry for that intimacy, who will settle for nothing less.

Same old same old.

Enid, you're always welcome to join in any conversation... but if you have nothing to add, or just want to be critical of those who want to discuss it, why not just ignore it? So far your comments have been the only divisive ones here.

Krispy

The truth is, guys, that we have had a lot of threads about Bible translation, and everyone throw in what they think. It just ends up as another argumentative thread and has no fruit.

Fix your eyes on Jesus and good things. Don't ignore these issues, but don't have another argument about them either.

I would agree that we dont need another argument over Bible versions. However, lately I've noticed that new people have joined our little gathering here and a few have asked some honest questions concerning Bible versions... and while some of us from BOTH sides of the debate have tried to give them legitimate answers to their questions, some have also come on and mocked them for asking and claimed "Oh no... here we go again".

I dont think thats very fair to people who are honestly seeking answers. Yes, there has been plenty written about this debate. However, newer people may not be familiar enough with this website to know how to search for thread about this issue. So they simply ask a question. How do you think it makes people feel when they are belittled about asking a question? Or people start whining "oh here we go again??"

People say I'm divisive on this issue (mainly because I stand for the KJV and they disagree with me... so if I disagree with THEM, then I am divisive), but I'm merely asking that everyone show a little patience for newer folks to this thread, and newer believers. Yes, I know Ormly isnt a new believer, but I'm mainly speaking about several threads that have appeared on this forum in the last couple weeks started by new people to this forum.

It seems that the people who are causing the divsiveness on this issue are the ones who are mocking people for discussing it... not the ones who are discussing it. If the moderators (who do a great job here!) havent called a spade a spade, I will.

Krispy