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hmmhmm Jan 21, 2007

in another thread i was asking about a study bible, now ive decided to go whit a version Of NASB... or almost decided, id like some input from people who read it,

i know there where a discussion about bible translations that got out of hand recently, thats not what i want i dont want argument, i just want some input on how it is, i own a KJV, i have some other versions on the computer, so i thought id go whit this one, as i understand this version is translated word by word?

what does that meen ? that they got rid of gramatical rules?

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MrBillPro Jan 21, 2007


hmmhmm wrote:
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i know there where a discussion about bible translations that got out of hand recently, thats not what i want i dont want argument, i just want some input on how it is, i own a KJV, .

don't want argument? or for this thread to get out of hand? here is some Godly advise go with that "still small voice" can't be mislead with opinions with that. :-)

God Bless
Mr. Bill

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lovegrace Jan 21, 2007

It's been my experience with NASB that you should:

1. Keep an eye out for the foot notes. When it says 'some early manuscripts....' That's probly referring to the ones that KJV used. So, use the discernment of God.

2. It's not perfect. Some verses are wrong. But yet I think 100 times better than NIV.


So, let the Spirit bring LIFE to the Word, through the NASB brother.

sermonindex Jan 21, 2007


lovegrace wrote:
It's been my experience with NASB that you should:

1. Keep an eye out for the foot notes. When it says 'some early manuscripts....' That's probly referring to the ones that KJV used. So, use the discernment of God.

2. It's not perfect. Some verses are wrong. But yet I think 100 times better than NIV.


So, let the Spirit bring LIFE to the Word, through the NASB brother.


Compare this verse with the NASB and see what you conclude [pay attention to the margin note]:

Proverbs 22:6 (KJV)
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.


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ginnyrose Jan 21, 2007

I also hate the disputes about Bible translations/versions so I am taking a risk here to voice my opinion...but I love the NASB! This is all I have used for years except when I post on SI!

But do as another poster suggested, listen to that still small voice. Methinks that is the greater problem then exactly what translation one uses...Opps! did I say something controversial? Hope not..again, it is my opinion and I have been blessed using the NASB.

Blessings,
ginnyrose

sermonindex Jan 21, 2007

I think I am going to get a NASB as well. I have heard good things. Currently, I am working through a workbook written by Paul Washer called "One True God," and in the preface he recommends the NASB.

But don't worry everyone else! I also just bought my first KJV, and am finding that its really not that hard to understand. I kinda like it...

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hmmhmm Jan 21, 2007

well ive heard good and bad things about it, and as long as no one tells you how wong you are reading it this thread should stay civilised and in a christian spirit, i wasent thinking of one whit so many notes, i was thinking of one whit the thompson reference, and as few notes as possible...

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tjservant Jan 21, 2007

It is a very literal translation and brings out some good word studies. I like it for personal study. I got this quote from the web

"...Ultimately, what separates the New American Standard Bible from the various available versions is that the NASB is a literal word-for-word translation from the original languages. In contrast, the others stress either a loose, personalized paraphrase, or a free-style, thought-for-thought translation known as a dynamic equivalent. Both of these place the highest priority on ease of reading and a lower priority on word-for-word preciseness. While such versions may produce smooth English, the literalness of the Word of God is sacrificed. This has never been an option for the New American Standard Bible."

This will cause some of the KJVers to post on this thread and try to keep you from “making an error” and choosing an inferior translation, but rest assured there are just as many people that believe in the NASB just as much as they believe in the KJV. John MacArthur, Ergan Caner, and quite a few others have said they believe the NASB to be the most accurate translation available today, they also acknowledge that none are perfect and free from errors.

I really like the NASB study bible, it has some really good info in it, but not perfect. I also like some of the info in the Archaeological Study Bible (niv). I do not use the NIV for any serious studies, but it has some very interesting historical facts.

I would say that most serious study would come from a reference edition Bible. I wish the Thompson chain was available in NASB. I will get it in KJV.

As for people posting scriptures that are in question, and giving examples of the KVJ being superior, it works both ways. The NASB is a good translation, but I would never completely abandon the KJV.

You will get much good advice from your brothers and sister of SI

God be with you

TJ

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DIEDTOSELF Jan 21, 2007

In personal study when reading other versions I always end up back in the kjv. So my recomendation is to get a parrell Bible that has the nasb sided with the kjv. I heard from some of John Pipers pupils that the esv is good as well although preference the Authorised for sure.

sermonindex Jan 21, 2007

Here's a place where you can get all translations, place them side by side and compare away --- with references using the NASB as the base. I own it and I would not be with it. I love it. I believe Version 5, the old version what I have, is now free. See for yo0urself. Its the Thompson Chain Reference collection, the best in my estimation. Very flexibility. I'll state that one would have to pay 500-600US for an equal to it.

http://www.wordsearchbible.com/freewordsearch3.htm

sermonindex Jan 21, 2007


tjservant wrote:
I would say that most serious study would come from a reference edition Bible. I wish the Thompson chain was available in NASB. I will get it in KJV.

Thomspson is available in the NASB.

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repentcanada Jan 21, 2007

"NASB....that's the Greek word for nasty", Leonard Ravenhill.

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euangelion Jan 21, 2007

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tjservant wrote:
I would say that most serious study would come from a reference edition Bible. I wish the Thompson chain was available in NASB. I will get it in KJV.

Thomspson is available in the NASB.

Ormly's correct but I don't think it's the Updated edition. At least mine is not.

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tjservant Jan 21, 2007


"NASB....that's the Greek word for nasty", Leonard Ravenhill.

That would be a powerful rebuke...had it come from the Apostle Paul. Coming from Ravenhill it makes me smile…I sure can hear him saying that.

I mean no disrespect to the late Mr. Ravenhill. Please do not read that into my comment.


TJ

sermonindex Jan 21, 2007


euangelion wrote:
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tjservant wrote:
I would say that most serious study would come from a reference edition Bible. I wish the Thompson chain was available in NASB. I will get it in KJV.

Thomspson is available in the NASB.

Ormly's correct but I don't think it's the Updated edition. At least mine is not.

I believe I stated that it was the older version they are offering free, wanting you to get it so they then get you to update to version 7, which is also great. i have used them both. 50 bucks, and worth it. I paid 37US for version 5. I love it. Can't be beat for any price.

Oops! I see you are refering to the hard copy NAS Bible. Sorry 'bout that. The CD, both versions, I speak of has both NASB and NASB-U. All the Thompson references use the NASB. You can search for a word and be amazed where it is located in the scriptures never imagining where they got the references. Even in harmony with other translations the verses will be pulled up as well though the word not be used within them; even verses with the implied idea, will be accessed.

Did I mention that is a whole library of books included?

sermonindex Jan 22, 2007

Go here!!


http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/product?item_no=213090&netp_id=352813&event=HPT&item_code=WW


Here's another great deal with a CD that places the whole thing on your computer making it interactive to a plethora of helps and extras. A fantastic tool that will greatly aid anyone searching for Biblical understanding. Forget all the selfhelp/improvement books. These two programs are all you need.

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Works-Oswald-Chambers/dp/157293039X/sr=8-1/qid=1169425477/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-2119371-0753605?ie=UTF8&s=books

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Jacob19 Jan 22, 2007

"NASB....that's the Greek word for nasty", Leonard Ravenhill.

That's so funny I was totally about to write that, until I saw you did! Someone should compile some of Ravenhill's Bible Translation jokes like :
" I use the living bible...The King James!"
or
" I am going to read a text from the NIV, wait a minute... thats the Never ImproVed, King James"

ha ha I love Ravenhill...

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SeanHobson Jan 22, 2007

"NASB....that's the Greek word for nasty", Leonard Ravenhill.

:)

That "I use the living bible.....the king james" made me chuckle first time I heard it also.

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KingJimmy Jan 22, 2007


i know there where a discussion about bible translations that got out of hand recently, thats not what i want i dont want argument, i just want some input on how it is, i own a KJV, i have some other versions on the computer, so i thought id go whit this one, as i understand this version is translated word by word?

what does that meen ? that they got rid of gramatical rules?

I personally use the NASB. I've used it for several years now, and have come to really cherish it. By in large, I have found it to be the best Bible to study from. And based on my knowledge of Greek, in the places I have compared it with, it seems to painstakingly try to be as "word-for-word" as possible. My pastor who has a much better handle of Greek than myself personally attests to the same thing.

What is meant by "word-for-word" translation is that the translators attempt to be as plain and as possible in their translation. In other words, they don't do a lot to "help" the reader out, by giving modern "dynamic equivalents" for various idiomatic phrases from antiquity.

Also in the NASB translation, they try to retain as much as possible the various Greek tenses in their translation to English. This is by no means a simple task, and isn't always possible. For this, the NASB translation loses a little fluidity in reading, and isn't as smooth and polished as other translations. Many would say it's not a very good "devotional" Bible as a result. But such is a rather vain sense of "devotion" in my opinion. For true devotion consists in worshiping God in spirit and truth. It is a manner of life, not of poetry.

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hmmhmm Jan 22, 2007

well its orderd now :) The Thompson chain reference Bible, im looking forward to it, but as A W Tozer said

While it is important that the translations be accurate and faithful, yet better versions do not make better men.

and he also said

Sometime he'll have to face up to the meaning of things, no matter in what version they are expressed. As I write I can see fifteen versions before me without turning my head and there are many more stashed about here and there. And they all say the same thing to me; namely, that I must trust Christ Jesus the Lord as my Saviour, love God with all my heart, soul and mind, and my neighbour as myself. They all say that I must be holy, humble, obedient, prayerful, pure, kindly, courageous and faithful. They all say that God is my Father and the Holy Spirit the inhabitant of my nature through the mystery of the new birth. And they all end with the cry for Christ's returning. I really don't need any more new versions, but I'll probably buy the next one that comes out.

so i pray this "new version" will by the Holy Spirit make me get to know God more, and bless my soul that thirst after him and his word

thank you all who helped me in this matter
God bless you no matter what version you read ;)

Christian

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