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saltlicker20 Feb 9, 2007

The last two days Bro. "Jed" Smock has been visiting our university campus causing quite a stir with his open air preaching.

Lines of protesters held up signs yesterday morning against his message of "hate" and waited anxiously for the old preacher to show up. At Noon, Bro. Jed opened up his Bible and preached an incredible message...even the protesters were somewhat intrigued with his presentation....and then.....

S-E-X ....The man began going into explicit detail about intimate relations with a man and a woman... about how to do it...using his hands and fingers to simulate the actions of it...then he went into detail on sodomy - and how to do that...using extenstion cords (Plug and Plug = Male Homosexuality and vice versa with the outlet).

He lost everyone....the Gospel was beautiful and was being preached... then he went on this escapade, drew a bigger crowd and lost the respect and sincerity of everyone.

Why?!? He has such a sincere heart! I have never seen as derogatory but similiar methods used by other open air preachers.... Why???

To draw a crowd? Appeal to the audience? Why... it doesn't make sense to me and I want to know why this "shock and awe" tactic is used in Open Air - and how is it biblical.

Thanks,

DO

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Provost Feb 9, 2007

Before I was saved I saw a lot of people that were nuts. There is not much we can sane people can do than get out there. Also we can get to know our Bibles better than the crazies do and be louder. Before I was saved and I saw these folk I knew they were teaching the Bible in a very incorrect manner. So props to your friend and lets thank the Lord the dying crew that was standing around got to hear some truth

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franklyne Feb 9, 2007

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sermonindex Feb 9, 2007

that is absolutely depressing, that is so disheartening to me, that the "Elijah" element in my soul wants to do 1st Kings 18 number on him, and that urge I rebuke...because than I go to 1st Peter to underline how TOTALLY unbiblical this fetid foul excuse of a preacher, this wastrel and tool of the devil is:

"Show proper respect to everyone......"

1Peter 2:17a

and than

"But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.[b]But do this with gentleness and respect.[/b] keeping a clear conscience so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander."

1Peter 3:15-16

its shameful, a blot, a blemish on the Minsitry of Christ, and MOST of the open air preachers I have had the displeasure to watch bring discredit to Christ.

I thank God on my knees, that he kept me from these workmen of the devil, and no man's witness, or "street-preaching" saved me. The Holy Spirit convicted me in a lonely house trailer high on a mountain one day, when I was at the end of myself.

Fore if I had witnessed such foul spew pouring forth in the public square, and in my previously unregenerate state had witnessed this fleshly garbage, and equated that junk with the Ministry of Jesus and Him crucified, I don't know here I'd be today, Thank you Lord for protecting me from such as these.

In the case of jed Smock, a question comes to mind, where does mental illness end and demonic possession begin? that line is so hazy, especially in his case, and if he was the only one, I wouldnt be disheartened, but there's a new generation coming up, just as bad, they know who they are.

But God is good, and there are two brothers [b]that I know of[/b] that minister open air that are blessed of God, and they know who they are. I don't mean to tar EVERY open air preacher...no no, please forgive me for that generalization, but I can name a few, right now, you are headed directly for the shoals of destruction.

and do you know how you tell them apart? If an open air preacher has a picture of [b]himself[/b] on the home page of his website, pointing a holy and righteous finger, that person is full of pride and self exhaltation and self righteousness.

Jesus and Jesus alone

"But do this with gentleness and respect...."

thats the tip off, thats the Mandate.....if you don't see that witness in the public square, its a good indication, either the flesh or the devil is at work.

neil

sermonindex Feb 9, 2007

I went on youtube and started listening to Jed Smock and on one video he is totally off the rails, crazy, unBiblical, hateful, and then in the next video, he's sitting in a chair totally sober and calm explaining the Economy of God....and to me, that just doesnt compute.

as my brethern below indicated, what gives?

I'm going to watvh more, after all, the Bible says "Test the spirits".

neil

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hmmhmm Feb 9, 2007

i don't know what to say, i watched him at you tube.. is it just me or do anyone else get the feeling everything not alright whit that man?

sermonindex Feb 9, 2007

its not just you, everything is NOT alright with that man, which has been a question i have always asked, having witnessed demonic manifestations, where does mental illness end and demonic possession begin?

hence, can someone be schzitophrenic and bi-polar and/or is this demonic possession?

or maybe its an issue of saying "I don't know".

but you're not alone, their is something off about this man, and if it was just him alone, screaming into the wind, that would be one thing, but when you have college kids, struggling with life, and growing up, lost in a culture and an empire, where idolatry rules the land, this sick man MIGHT just be the only representation of what they deem to be a "christian".

Your mercy Lord, your mercy. please Jesus.

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PreachParsly Feb 9, 2007

hence, can someone be schzitophrenic and bi-polar and/or is this demonic possession?

I serious doubt it is either. This is just plainly the way he chooses to preach.

sermonindex Feb 9, 2007

and I post this not to stir up trouble, but its a 48 second testimony on how a young college girl felt about a recent "Shock and Awe" campaign at her college. I post it because it gives a snapshot of what someone felt about the witness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG_cU7fk5hc&mode=related&search=

sermonindex Feb 9, 2007

I listened to Fayetteville, and Praise God, you were preaching with unction, true clear sober strong in the leading of the Holy Ghost. You brightened my heart, and when you turned away that money, I fell in love with you in Jesus.

and the way you handled that foul mouthed man was the way it s'posed to be done....even, with respect, addressing people as "sir" and "maam"

Josh, you know what I always wanted to be involved with?

an old fashioned Holy Ghost tent meeting, and I'd love to see ya preaching in a tent, while I lay face down in the straw providing you with prayer covering.

God bless you, thanks for the sharing, neil


(later edit...I went to your links and went to a site called www.openairpreaching.com and they use as an audio intro I and the Holy Ghost did a while back called "You go and Preach it" on fireonthealtar.com [url=http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/neil%20g/You%20Go%20and%20Preach%20It!.mp3]You Go and Preach it![/url]

that made me smile, I had a great time in the Lord making that comp....I always enjoyed when ole Ian Paisley got on fire for the Lord....know what? I wonder if the brethern REALLY understood what the Lord was trying to say with me thru that comp? hmmm.

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PreachParsly Feb 9, 2007


bartle wrote:
I listened to Fayetteville, and Praise God, you were preaching with unction, true clear sober strong in the leading of the Holy Ghost. You brightened my heart, and when you turned away that money, I fell in love with you in Jesus.

and the way you handled that foul mouthed man was the way it s'posed to be done....even, with respect, addressing people as "sir" and "maam"

Josh, you know what I always wanted to be involved with?

an old fashioned Holy Ghost tent meeting, and I'd love to see ya preaching in a tent, while I lay face down in the straw providing you with prayer covering.

God bless you, thanks for the sharing, neil


(later edit...I went to your links and went to a site called www.openairpreaching.com and they use as an audio intro I and the Holy Ghost did a while back called "You go and Preach it" on fireonthealtar.com [url=http://www.fireonthealtar.com/compilations/neil%20g/You%20Go%20and%20Preach%20It!.mp3]You Go and Preach it![/url]

that made me smile, I had a great time in the Lord making that comp....I always enjoyed when ole Ian Paisley got on fire for the Lord....know what? I wonder if the brethern REALLY understood what the Lord was trying to say with me thru that comp? hmmm.

That audio was from when I first started OA preaching. My voice didn't crack or go out on me did it? :-P I can't remember if it did. LOL The atmosphere there was a family type of place. They had Christmas lights everywhere and the people were waiting in line to ride a carriage(sp?). My voice is a lot "stronger" now.

I didn't know you made the comp "You Go and Preach It!" That is a good one.

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KingJimmy Feb 10, 2007

In Revelation 18 it says that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. When one hears a preacher, they ought simply to ask themselves if they can imagine their Lord saying the very same thing right then and there. And then ask if they can imagine their Lord saying it in the manner that the preacher is.

If these two things don't line up, you can be sure the preacher, even if he doesn't claim the gift of prophecy, has nothing to even remotely do with the Spirit that gives such prophecies.

This is very simple, Jed Smock simply is a false evangelist.

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NewCovWinDor Feb 10, 2007

Greetings,

Yes, we should preach the Gospel. "Go ye into the HIGHWAYS and HEDGES and compel them to come."

Highways and hedges are definitely open-air... but are graphic descriptions of personal activities really needful?

Jesus said, "Go ye into all the world and preach the GOSPEL," not a perverse object lesson.

Object lessons are good, but I feel that was out of line. There are far better ways to preach. Hey, we could even copycat John Baptist!

"REPENT! FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!"

Sounds good to me! ;-)

"Let God be true, and every man a liar."

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