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Favorite Discernment Ministry?

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Yeshuasboy Feb 20, 2007

I was wondering what are some of your favorite "Discerment" Ministries?

The Lord Christ Jesus bless you and your family this day,
richie

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CJaKfOrEsT Feb 20, 2007

I find James Jacob Prasch to be quite good. The are some of his sermons on SI. His website is [url=www.moriel.org]www.moriel.org[/url].

Generally, it is wise to be cautious of "discernment ministers", as when one over emphasises on what is wrong with the world, it can be hard for them to see what is right.

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Yeshuasboy Feb 20, 2007


Generally, it is wise to be cautious of "discernment ministers"

Very good point brother.

1Jn 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

richie

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CJaKfOrEsT Feb 20, 2007

...Note tat it is "spirit" and not teaching. Note also that the criteria for testing is given:

"All that is in the world is the lust of the yes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life."

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Yeshuasboy Feb 20, 2007


CJaKfOrEsT wrote:
...Note tat it is "spirit" and not teaching. Note also that the criteria for testing is given:

"All that is in the world is the lust of the yes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life."

Ah, the pride of life... the sin that turns saints into devils.
He is Truth, the Way, the Life.
To preach a sermon that glorifies God and not a teaching... how the Christ rebuked the Pharisees throughout the Gospels. Indeed, those religious spirits live on.

"Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge , it shall vanish away" - 1Cor 13:8

I do enjoy [url=http://christianresearchnetwork.com/]Ingrid Schtueter's site[/url] who hosts [url=http://www.crosstalkamerica.com/]Cross Talk[/url].

richie

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Goldminer Feb 20, 2007


Early on in my Christian walk I began to get involved in some of these types of ministries and then I read somewhere that when bank people are taught to look for counterfeit money they never look at counterfeits but saturate themselves in the real. As they become completely familiar with the real the easily recognise the fake.

This really helped me. Before I read anything I seek God to keep me from error and there have been many times when something just doesn't set right with me. I go by that inner prompting of the Holy Spirit. I think it is better than looking at who is in error. We become like what we look at. I will tell a for instance. Most of the ministries that I studied who pointed out everybody elses error became negative and hateful. This too is sin. What isn't of love isn't of God.

[color=6600CC]Jhn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: [/color]

[color=6600CC]Jhn 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. [/color][color=6600CC]Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. [/color]

So I would say dear brother saturate your self in the word and those who don't compromise for teaching and the fakes will leave a bad taste in your mouth.

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CJaKfOrEsT Feb 20, 2007


Goldminer wrote:

So I would say dear brother saturate your self in the word and those who don't compromise for teaching and the fakes will leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Wise words you have spoken Goldminer. May I suggest, Yeshuaboy that you strive to learn what "the point" is. There is an overriding principle that ties together everything in the Bible. It is not something that is easily articulated, and really must be comprehended by revelation, but there is something about it that enables you to be able to hear His voice, with greater clarity.

With this search, be careful of both "oversimplifying" and "overcomplicating" things in your mind. For example, earlier I mentioned three things that John described as "all that is in the world". You managed to latch onto one of them, but they really are inseparable. On the other hand, you seek to listen much to "discernment preaching", with will lead to you being on the lookout for everything that can go wrong, and miss out on seeing what God is doing in the midst of things.

If you can learn of Him, and carry His burden, which is light, errors will stand out, but you will not feel the need to worry about them, unless someone else can benefit from your observations.

May God bless you in your pursuit of Him.

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Provost Feb 20, 2007

I think we have to be careful as mentioned earlier. Yet, we can use them and they can be a blessing. Also we all should know; learning how to keep the Bible text in context will be the greatest weapon and discernment ministry

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Yeshuasboy Feb 21, 2007

Thanks for the advice brothers.... and I receive it with joy and thanksgiving.
I do much rather approve of meditating on God Himself than on the error of others.
Aaron, you mentioned enjoying James Jacob Prasch's ministry. He wrote a well- informed article a while back titled [url=http://www.moriel.org/articles/sermons/judge_not.htm]Judge Not[/url]. It is a blessing.
Thankyou again brothers for your advice. I'm quite sure there will be others that appreciate it as well.

An undeserving brother,
richie

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CJaKfOrEsT Feb 21, 2007


Yeshuasboy wrote:
Aaron, you mentioned enjoying James Jacob Prasch's ministry. He wrote a well- informed article a while back titled [url=http://www.moriel.org/articles/sermons/judge_not.htm]Judge Not[/url]. It is a blessing.

Ritchie,

This is one of my favourite Prasch articles. I always point out that God doesn't suggest that he judge, but that he commends it, when speaking to people who blindly accept what preachers say, because of "denominational endorsements" and the like. This article has opened many eyes to this fact, due to his dealing with the different Greek words used for "judge".

His teaching on Midrasch (which is basically Hebrew hermeneutics) is greatly beneficial for establishing a discerning heart. This cuts to the heart of the "oversimplification vs overcomplication" issue. I believe that there are some sermons here on this topic.

sermonindex Feb 22, 2007

He really is hot and strong against error, isn't he!

Reminds me of John Baptist: Doesn't care what anyone thinks and afraid of no-one. Completely without tact, but usually right.

Lost his head in the end (John I mean!) but that didn't matter because his Head was the Lord!

Jeannette

sermonindex Feb 22, 2007

The comment on studying the real thing rather than the error was so right. I used to be like a terrior (breed of dog), digging holes everywhere sniffing out "rats", but eventually realised it was more important to stick close to the Lord. Unless your ministry involves warning about error.

I have found http://www.crossroad.to/index.html useful though as a source of information

Blessings

jeannette

sermonindex Feb 22, 2007

none.

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