Jesus' "Pinnacle" temptation

I think that we all argue at times :-o So you're not alone. I think if you look at Jesus and the temptation experience and go back to the first Adam and compare, you may have a window into the purposes of Christ through this wilderness experience. Than consider this verse of scripture 1Jo 2:16. What do ya think???

Jesus responds the way that he does because Satan isn't saying anything wrong, he's got the wrong motives in saying it.

Satan is himself quoting scripture word for word... Psalm 91:11 if you didn't already know. What the Psalm says about Jesus is true, God would do this, if it was part of God's plan -but it isn't.

You see, Jesus replies the way he does here because, although the scripture is correct, the interpretation on the behalf of Satan is wrong. Jesus COULD do this, but that would be leaving the will of God. God's will is for Jesus to go to calvary, Jesus knows this.

Satan is trying to get Jesus off of the road to calvary, and he's using scripture to do it. The scripture isn't wrong, so Jesus isn't necessarily disagreeing, he's just saying it's not the right way.

I think he answered perfectly based on the circumstances (face it, Jesus is perfect).

Jesus responds the way that he does because Satan isn't saying anything wrong, he's got the wrong motives in saying it.

Are you sure here? Look at the whole statement of satan and re-think through this whole scenaro. Note the little word "if" and than reformulate your statement.

Satan is trying to get Jesus off of the road to calvary, and he's using scripture to do it. The scripture isn't wrong, so Jesus isn't necessarily disagreeing, he's just saying it's not the right way

iansmith wrote:

Satan is himself quoting scripture word for word... Psalm 91:11 if you didn't already know. What the Psalm says about Jesus is true, God would do this, if it was part of God's plan -but it isn't.

Satans' "quote" He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
[b]Psalms 91:11[/b] [color=990000]For he shall give his angels charge over thee, [b]to keep thee in all thy ways.[/b]
[b]12:[/b]They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.[/color]

Satan perverts the Scripture to make it say what he wants.
"to keep thee in all thy ways." is to keep one in the way of rightousness.

Simply put Jesus didn't quote the next line, He "did" the next line!

LittleGift on 2007/4/5 23:48:13
However, no one has yet dealt with my main puzzle. Why did Jesus not quote the next part of the Psalm against Satan?

We can be too clever in our contests with the enemy. The simplest and surest line is "resist the devil and he will flee..."

philologos wrote:
I don't think He was trying to win an argument. There is a sense in which none of his 'answers' are crushing arguments against the tempter but are the expression of his own personal choices to live his life before God.

We can be too clever in our contests with the enemy. The simplest and surest line is "resist the devil and he will flee..."

None of us mortals are smart or even clever enough to out wit the eney, so we must only o Jesus and say, "the lord rebuke you" not take the enemy on our own.

I believe that to do what the devil ask to justify ones self, is to mock God.

Eddie

LittleGift on 2007/4/6 19:47:36
Sometimes one has a spiritual "itch" (not the same as "itching ears") that like a physical one in the middle of the back, you just can't quite reach by yourself.

Amen! :-)

I’m discovering a practical lesson here! After all, we are called to be Christ-like. Should that not include our own struggle against the forces of evil (or error)?

This reminds me of a recent thread title about the “warrior spirit”. Christ did not exhibit a warrior spirit – even in his use of the Word. We, on the other hand are easily tempted to get warrior-like and become engaged in a battle of powers - proclaiming (though subtly) our authority to “trample snakes”. (Lk. 10:19)

Simply put Jesus didn't quote the next line, He "did" the next line!

It’s not about winning. It’s not a warrior position. It’s a non-resistant stand.

Is this what it means to be meek?

Diane

roadsign said:

It’s not about winning. It’s not a warrior position. It’s a non-resistant stand.

He has already won. Be strong in the Lord and in the power, [u]of His might[/u]. The weapons of are warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God.
Having done all to stand, stand therefore, In His victory, in His might, in His armour, and in His meekness.

roadsign said:

Is this what it means to be meek?

Yes, :-) Yes, :-) Yes, :-) Yes, :-) Praise God Yes!

pastorfrin

Is this what it means to be meek?

it's power under control"

I suppose, then, that meekness develops as we trust in the POWER of our Lord, and not our own puny attempts to overpower the forces against us. Maybe it's learning to be proactive rather than reactive. Isn't that what the spiritual armor of God is all about?

Diane

In the 60s here in the UK we had a brother who always used this definition of 'meekness' but used to add a few words..

...meekness is power under control for love's sake.

I like that definition even better.
Dian-- You have to understand one thing about our christian life, its not always passive, nor is it always actively radical. Heb 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
The battles of life were won in Christ's own life in His prayer closet. Can you imagine being present when He prayed? I think that's what caused the disciples to ask Him "Lord teach us to Pray". Luk 11:1 The examples and the order of parables afterwards hold alot of insight.

But all in all don't get caught in a mold of being completely passive in the war against powers of evil. The whole armour of God in Eph has with it both passive and active elements. :-)
How do you see it?