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Here4Him Apr 9, 2007

I am tired of this existance as a not all together joyful and focused Christian.

I have had the desire for years now to go on and know Christ more intimately and serve Him more faithfully, i long to enter into the Christianity of which i have only read about but here I am today, still at the same level and frustrated.

I wonder if it is because i Have not had the discipline to act on the desires God has put within me? I know i am too easily distracted by the vain and empty things of this world. I grieve that things like sport still entice and excite me, when if only i had seen Christ for who He really is, all these things would have lost there attraction.

Is it the time in which we live? There seems to be so much to steal our time and distract us from Christ and things of eternal value- we are so comfortable, so well fed, so pampered and yet so impotent in our Christian lives.

How few in our generation truly rise above all of this to live the genuine Christianity of the Bible, not the plastic imitation most of us are living. Will i ever do it?

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Goldminer Apr 9, 2007

The fact that you are seeing this is an indication that God is drawing you closer to Him. God has a way of removing distractions. He is doing that in my life as well.

[color=0000CC]hl 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:[/color]

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deathdancer Apr 9, 2007

Hi, yes i am also frustrated. Will one ever cease to be? I doubt it.As long as we have the dual nature we must live as best we can.Santification is a life long process.The closer we get to holiness the more we realise that we are sinful and the more we need Jesus Christ.As someone said, the sweetest emotion is repentance and the day we die we no longer have this privilage.
Your statements reflect God's grace to you,or else you would not feel this hunger. You are more honest than most.As for remaining static in your christianity I doubt that,your words say otherwise to me.Is it the times? No, since creation things are pretty much the same,there are no new sins,each generation has its problems.
May Jesus wean us from vanity, whatever it may take.
greetings.

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dohzman Apr 9, 2007

It was Ron (philologos) who counsiled me at one point many months ago during a time of deep frustration that "Frustration is God's calling card to seek Him". I have found that to be very reliable counsil and extremely profitable in my walk with Christ personally. So I pass this on to you as one who had it given to them :-) . God Bless bro. Daryl

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Talkn2u Apr 11, 2007

You are at a Wonderful Place of opportunity...Seek the Face of God...get into His Word...He will meet you there!!! Follow this leading of the Spirit...Your spirit appears to be restless...Restlessness draws us to seek Peace...HE is our Peace...The Only Peace. Don't let this "feeling, prompting,leading" pass you by. It is a gift....Let nothing stop you from Seeking His Face!!!

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timmyspitz Apr 11, 2007

Read this article, I think you'll find someone who can identify with where you are at and who seemed to have found the breaking point.

"Spiritual Refreshment In a Dry and Weary Land"

By Steve Gallagher

“O God, Thou art my God; I shall seek Thee earnestly; my soul thirsts for Thee, my flesh yearns for Thee, in a dry and weary land where there is no water.” (Psalm 63:1)

This world is a dry and weary land. Nothing will deaden a person’s spiritual appetite like the spirit of this world. Even believers with the best of intentions find that their passion for God wanes in the spiritually polluted atmosphere around us. And the more immersed we become in it, the more dry and weary become our souls. Every minute we spend watching television, listening to secular radio, surfing the Net, playing video games, reading newspapers & magazines, strolling through the mall—and a thousand other activities which beckon us—the more barren we become spiritually.

The deception of it all is in the innocuous nature of these different pastimes. While many TV shows could have a quick and powerful effect on me spiritually, watching a segment of Headline News is not going to drive me away from God. Reading the Sports page—in itself—is not going to make me spiritually dull. The problem is how much accumulated time people spend in these different pursuits. By the end of any given day, it is not abnormal for a believer to have spent two or three hours filling his mind, in one fashion or another, with the voice of the spirit of this world.

Most believers understand from past experience that the more time they spend in worldly activities, the more difficult it will be to break into the presence of God during their devotions the following morning. They will have to fight through that fog Jesus called “dissipation:” the spiritual hangover that comes from being drunk with the things of this world. It is simply a fact that the world deadens spiritual sensitivity.

One would think that spending time in the world would create a great thirst for the rivers of life, but actually it has the very opposite effect. The things of this world give a person a false sense of fulfillment. It’s like filling up on soda pop when the body needs pure water. The more cola a believer drinks, the less thirst he will feel for the real thing. I made this same point in an article I once wrote regarding the place of pleasure in the life of the believer:

Making pleasure the most important aspect of one’s life could be compared to a teenager who thinks he can live on candy bars and soda pop. True, he won’t drop dead within a few days of such an unhealthy diet, but his quality of life will be seriously impaired. The constant intake of sugar will gradually rot his teeth, deplete his overall energy level, and could even lead to something serious such as diabetes. Worse than that, by substituting healthy food with sweets, his body will not receive the nutrition that is required to ward off sickness and to sustain life. Undoubtedly, over a long period of time the results of such a lifestyle would be a sickly life and an untimely death.

In the same way, pleasurable experiences are meant to be the dessert of life. Kept in its proper perspective, it is balanced by the staples of the healthy spiritual diet of prayer, Bible reading, church attendance, deeds of kindness, giving of tithes and offerings, and so on. However, when gratification becomes the main focal point of one’s daily existence, it not only rots a person’s spiritual life, but it eventually chokes out everything that is wholesome.

I can remember a time in my life when I sorely lacked the presence of God. This deficiency was not from indulging myself in the pleasures of life. By the time I had been in ministry for five years, I had given up watching television and going to worldly places and I even maintained a daily two-hour devotional time. And yet, something was terribly missing. In my autobiography, Out of the Depths of Sexual Sin, I wrote about the struggle I was going through:

I wasn’t the only one who felt this lack. Kathy and Lance were aware of it in their lives as well. “Where is the bubbling fountain of life? Where is the abundant life promised to all believers in Christ? Where is the all-consuming love for God and others? Where is the joy of the Lord?” We couldn’t understand why our spiritual lives seemed so dry and lifeless. Over a period of months, we continually cried out to God for Him to do something for us.

The second half of that book describes how the Lord was faithful to answer those cries. Over a period of time, He began coming to us in a very powerful way. He gave us a marvelous sight of Himself that forever changed our lives. The following story provides a glimpse into the way the Lord has filled our thirsty souls.

On one occasion the staff decided to spend an entire day seeking the Lord for a deeper infilling of the Holy Spirit. Anticipation built up during the days leading up to it. We didn’t know what to expect. On the one hand, I wanted to encourage everybody to believe God to do something marvelous in our midst. However, I was also concerned that we would get our hopes too high and set ourselves up for a real disappointment.

We culminated a three-day fast during the day of prayer. That morning was spent worshipping the Lord, meditating on Scripture, and praying both silently and corporately. I started getting a little concerned when no “tongues of fire” had settled on the chapel roof by mid-afternoon... I frankly didn’t know what to do. As we were sitting there, I walked up to the platform to grab some cough drops. As I passed Jeff on the way back to my seat, a surge of love for him rose up in my heart. I hugged him and told him that I loved him. Then I noticed Rose sitting there and I felt love for her; so I did the same with her. Suddenly the entire chapel was filled with an atmosphere of overflowing love. Everybody stood up spontaneously and began hugging each other. This was not the gushing sentimentalism of emotional people but a real outpouring of the Holy Spirit. When it was all over, we could testify along with the apostle Paul who said, “...the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.” (Romans 5:5)...

Ten years prior to this—back in 1992—Kathy, Lance and I had pleaded with God for the abundant life evident in the Scriptures. God has marvelously answered our prayers! Pure Life Ministries has become a well for other thirsty souls to drink from the living waters of Jesus Christ![i]

The believer who thirsts for God – like a deer pants for streams of water – limits his time in this world. He rises early and cries out, “O God, Thou art my God!” There is a thirst for God and the things of God that cannot be quenched. He longs for “the Fountain of Living Waters,” and refuses to drink from the “broken cisterns” of this world.

To the Old Testament saints, the Lord cried out, “Ho! Every one who thirsts, come to the waters; and you who have no money come, buy and eat. Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost. Why do you spend money for what is not bread, and your wages for what does not satisfy?” (Isaiah 55:1-2) This should be a loud message to believers today who tend to look to the unsatisfying trinkets this world offers.

To New Testament believers Jesus exclaimed, “If any man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘From his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water.’” (John 7:37-38) Those living waters are available for every believer.

Let us forsake the stale, dirty water offered by the world’s broken cisterns. They may temporarily wet the throat, but they can never quench the thirsting of our souls. Instead, let us keep going to the Fountain of Life—again and again and again—until we thirst no more!

[I] Steve Gallagher, Out of the Depths of Sexual Sin, Pure Life Ministries, 2003.

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beenblake Apr 11, 2007

Will i ever do it?

So, will you? Are you willing to take up your cross, just as Jesus did?

In love,
Blake

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PaulWest Apr 11, 2007

Brother, have you expressed a desire to grow in grace no matter what the cost? Have you boldly asked God to reveal the hidden things of the heart and to freely kill whatever might be keeping you from experiencing a closer walk? If you have, you mustn't be dismayed if one day you find that He took you at your word! This frustration you are experiencing is God's way of purging the dross, calling you, inviting you closer to Him through falling into divers temptations. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect. Take heart, it only lasts for a season and then times of refreshing shall come. This is all part of the school of God, where God is giving you opportunity to grow. It hurts right now, but once the dust clears, you should notice that you grew smaller ;-)

Heed the words of this gem by John Newton:


I asked the Lord that I might grow
In faith, and love, and every grace;
Might more of His salvation know,
And seek, more earnestly, His face.

’Twas He who taught me thus to pray,
And He, I trust, has answered prayer!
But it has been in such a way,
As almost drove me to despair.

I hoped that in some favored hour,
At once He’d answer my request;
And by His love’s constraining pow’r,
Subdue my sins, and give me rest.

Instead of this, He made me feel
The hidden evils of my heart;
And let the angry pow’rs of hell
Assault my soul in every part.

Yea more, with His own hand He seemed
Intent to aggravate my woe;
Crossed all the fair designs I schemed,
Blasted my gourds, and laid me low.

Lord, why is this, I trembling cried,
Wilt thou pursue thy worm to death?
“’Tis in this way, the Lord replied,
I answer prayer for grace and faith.

These inward trials I employ,
From self, and pride, to set thee free;
And break thy schemes of earthly joy,
That thou may’st find thy all in Me.”

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JaySaved Apr 11, 2007

Here4Him, God is calling you to a deeper understanding of Himself. Stop resisting the Holy Spirit and yield!

sermonindex Apr 11, 2007

Are you willing to take up your cross, just as Jesus did?
Who is really willing?

I think it was F.B.Meyer who said, "Make me willing to be made willing".

That has been my prayer of late, I know that I simply cannot perform this. More and more I see myself relying on Jesus then my abilities to do what is expected of me by religious man.

Martha was doing a lot of good, but Mary was doing something better. She was just sitting there at the feet of Jesus listening.

Oh to be a Mary....sigh :-(

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Here4Him Apr 11, 2007

Here4Him, God is calling you to a deeper understanding of Himself. Stop resisting the Holy Spirit and yield!

Yes thank you brother, your right, i have been resisting, i do want to yield.

So, will you? Are you willing to take up your cross, just as Jesus did?

The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

Brother, have you expressed a desire to grow in grace no matter what the cost? Have you boldly asked God to reveal the hidden things of the heart and to freely kill whatever might be keeping you from experiencing a closer walk?

Brother Paul i have, i have prayed that many times. It is sad that the Lord has to use afflictions to cause me to grow, it is just another sign of the wickedness of my heart that i cant even give up all I am to my Creator and the One who shed His own blood for my soul.

I am somewhat expecting the Lord to do something in answer to those prayers and i have a feeling it may be painful. But may i bless the hand of God that smites me. Pruning is painful but neccessary for fruitfulness. 'Prune me Lord for thy glory'.

And thank you 'Timmyspitz', that article was helpful

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Onesimus4God Apr 12, 2007

We cannot exist Christlike,we must live Christlike. In Matthew 25:31-46 Jesus tells us of the grave importance of doing what He would have us be doing. Please notice that this passage is devoid of "religious practice". Real Christian living is doing what Jesus did, to the naked, the infirmed, the homeless, the hungry, the sick and imprisoned.
Also read Isaia 58. It's 12 verses reveal the kind of fast that God would choose. So many good promises here as well.
My wife and I are home parents at a boys ranch in Texas. We have about 14 disciples that we get to minister to each day. We are able to help them find comfort, love and peace. We are able to impart values, virtue and good christian ethic to their daily living while we all grow in grace. I've never been more fulfilled in all my life.

Paul said in Romans 12, the last verse, be not overcome with evil, but overcome evil with good. If we are busy doing what God instructed us to do as outlined above, we have little time to worry about doing evil things and the trivial vanity of this worlds seems to pale. Life begins to take on a whole new meaning as you watch others respond to His love working through your own vessel. Then you begin to feel really alive.

Jesus said that a city set upon a hill cannot be hidden. So let your light shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify God.
This is not works for salvation, its works of living as a christian. God wants to help so many people. But He chooses to use ordinary people like you and me to do so, if only we will allow Him too. When we put aside all this vain pursuit of pious religiosity, and begin to do His will for our lives, then we life begins to take on value above dollars and cents, pleasure and comfort and stuff. God does not need our stuff. He needs us, as His vessels.

So you might consider asking God what He would have you do, and do that, and see what happens to your frustration level, your peace or lack thereof, and your joy. Please come back and give us a report, if you would.

All His best,

Lahry

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