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narrowpath Apr 15, 2007

Dear Jon,
If there weren't any online ministries I would never have awaken from my mediocrate mainstream charismatic slumber. Thanks for all those ministries and individuals who post free edifying Christian content on the web. I sent the links to mainy of my friends and they in turn got blessed.
My teenage daughter now listens to online sermons instead of pop music.

I admit that there is a lot of junk and phoney Christian content on the web but there are some great morsels among them. Pride and greed always tries to pervert God's genuine work and draw attention to men or use godliness as a means for personal gain. I agree with you, there is no substitute for true holy ghost inspired bible backed discernment to avoid being led astray by false ministries.
I am also very blessed by a number of discernment ministries who helped me to see the errors of some popular trends in Christianity. They have a commitment and true calling into this ministry and do some very through research. These resources simply are not always around in the context of the local church and are best published online to make them available to the wider body of Christ.

In the same way as God inspired Johannes Gutenberg to invent the printing press at the time of the reformation to make biblical truth available to the masses, the internet came into existence as a medium to make biblical truth, encouraging testimonies, news from the mission field, prophetic words, intercession request etc, known to the wider body of Christ.

No doubt, the internet is also one of the most perverse media that ever existed.

I long for the time when we will all know the Lord and do no longer need the internet (and even bibles) because our fleshly body has been replaced with a glorious resurrection body.

Until we get there, I guess we have to arrange ourselves somehow with the internet. I believe propper use is the answer.

Narrowpath of London

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Lawevangelis Apr 16, 2007

Is it really so bad that if every pride saturated ministry had to shut down that there would be no "good" ones left? Yikes! It's worse than I thought!

Blessings,

Jon

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ChrisJD Apr 16, 2007

Hi Jon,


"Is it really so bad that if every pride saturated ministry had to shut down that there would be no "good" ones left? Yikes! It's worse than I thought!"


This passage of scripture caught my eye the other day:


[i]By the blessing of the upright the city is exalted: but it is overthrown by the mouth of the wicked.[/i]


[i]But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,[/i]


And the question comes to mind a few minutes ago:

Is there anything righteous, holy, or godly, about cursing the dark?


Chris

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roadsign Apr 16, 2007

Is it really so bad that if every pride saturated ministry had to shut down that there would be no "good" ones left?

Nothing is static. How many God-fearing ministries have endured more than one or two generations before they strayed? In time the followers lose the vision of the founders. As I read through the Bible, I realize that it was never any different. Why do we expect more for our day and age? Is it because we think we are the generation that has “arrived” – or at least, aught to be better than any other? Is it a false sense of cultural success, our fine homes, cars, education, health…. that is keeping us from seeing that we are naked, poor, blind, and wretched?

Yikes! It's worse than I thought!

Brother, I have come to believe that it’s far worse than we can see with our “naked” eye. I have often hit myself on the head and asked, “Why do I keep on expecting… hoping for something better from this human race only to have my expectations shattered? My favorite saintly leader strays in his doctrine, another has an affair, another is lured by the riches of this world.. and the followers don’t seem to “get it”. And dare we exclude ourselves from this possibilty?

Why do we have such a hard time accepting God’s verdict on mankind: “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God?” I think that accepting this gives us peace, and drives us to the Lord. Otherwise we will always be angry, bitter, and disappointed, and lash out at our fellow man.

Jesus said, “My kingdom is within you”. In other words, it can’t be in an organization. Organizations (ministries) don’t get saved. Only individuals do. Ministries are made of a variety of people – wheat and tares. (alas, the weed seeds fall on the soil secretly overnight!)

Now that I’ve tried to paint a bleak and hopeless picture, let me express a note of praise: It is BECAUSE of the failings of ministries/churches, etc – in other words, man’s attempts to create a divine kingdom, that I found the Lord – for real, I mean. My disappointments, hurts, disillusions, moved me to Christ – my ONLY hope. I know, beyond a shadow of doubt, that if I had been sheltered in some ideal, godly, ministry, I would have simply floated on its blessings, all the while unaware of my own depravity and need for the Lord.

God seems to use the arrows of the enemy to bring about his righteousness. Maybe that’s why he hasn’t shut down every vile ministry or institution. At least they provide some sort of platform on which God can work. If God could use Caesar’s kingdom and the religious establishment in Jesus day, why not now?

Diane

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