Found this article interesting.
" I would never let my children even come close to this thing".
Such were the musings of the late Vladimir Kosma Zworykin, Russian-born inventor of the television set, who, evidently, had some misgivings about the whole project when reflecting on his life's work on his 92nd birthday.
Like I said, it's interesting.
God bless.
I don't know will this fit here, but recently I read a list of 45 goals that communist has put to destroy the enemy, I will post just few:
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[b]Communist Goals ([color=FF0000]1963[/color]) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963
17. [b]Get control of the schools.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. [b]Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
25. [b]Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. [b]Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. [b]Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. [b]Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools
40. [b]Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
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This list has been made directly from the pit of hell. The sad thing is that it seems like they have achieved their goals.
Has it not been completely successful?
This list has been made directly from the pit of hell. The sad thing is that itha seems like they have achieved their goals.
Truly remarkable to [i]hear
I don't see how Zworykin is any different from a drug pusher.
He might not have pushed drugs, but like a pusher didn't take the drug (t.v) that he sold.
I know he might not be responsible for the movies etc that have been made, but he made the medium to receive them.
Quote: This list has been made directly from the pit of hell. The sad thing is that it seems like they have achieved their goal.
It sure looks that way. Too bad the church hasn't achieved hers, which is to 'Go into all the world and preach the gospel.
We are responsible for the proclaiming the gospel, not for knowing every vile programme that is on the t.v, as if it matters.
Once you watch a programme, it is with you for life. You might not remember all of it, but what you do remember will not help you in your Christian walk.
God help us to be jealous for His sake.
God bless.
Tears_of_joy wrote:
I don't know will this fit here, but recently I read a list of 45 goals that communist has put to destroy the enemy, I will post just few:-----------------------------------------------
[b]Communist Goals ([color=FF0000]1963[/color]) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963[/b] 17.
[b]Get control of the schools.[/b] Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21.
[b]Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.[/b] 22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
25.
[b]Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.[/b] 26.
[b]Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."[/b] 27.
[b]Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."[/b] 28.
[b]Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools[/b] on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."40.
[b]Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.[/b] -----------------------------------------------
This list has been made directly from the pit of hell. The sad thing is that it seems like they have achieved their goals.
wow. Looks like they are succeeding.
How many Christians have made Godly resolutions and set their heart to keep them to the Glory of God?
That is list is both prophetic and heartbreaking! The television and movie industry is almost entirely controlled by individuals wishing to influence the social and religious views of America.
In addition, this same thing can be said about the internet. I read a report the other day that stated something like 5% of all internet users are currently viewing pornographic websites AT EVERY MOMENT! The same report stated that nearly 25% of all internet users view pornographic websites with regularity, including many children.
So the same question can be asked:
"internet or not internet"
:-(
What percent of gun owners kill people with them? Guns don’t kill people…people kill people.
When will people understand that gossip can potentially land them in the same hell that will be holding murderers?
It comes down to responsibility.
Can you trust yourself and your family around guns?
Can you trust yourself around T.V. and the Internet?
Should we trust ourselves, or just eliminate the possibilities?
One thing…it’d hard to get accidentally shot in a house with no guns.
Just my 2 cents
[b]Communist Goals ([color=FF0000]1963[/color]) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963[/b] 17.
[b]Get control of the schools.[/b] Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21.
[b]Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.[/b] 22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
25.
[b]Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.[/b] 26.
[b]Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."[/b] 27.
[b]Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."[/b] 28.
[b]Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools[/b] on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."40.
[b]Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.[/b]
These ideas are originally credited to the Communists? Well then I think someone needs to report the Democrats for plagiarism. ;-)
MC
Brother Kire, do you know of a link to the source material for these? Or do you know anything about where this list appears. I would perhaps be interested in reading it. Thanks.
Seems to me that the more we, who have both Light and Truth, the more we make unbiblical distinctions between the secular and the sacred, the easier this list would be to accomplish, and the easier it would be to maintain.
[b][color=660033]Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. [/color]
[b][color=000000] The earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.[/color]
Brother Kire, do you know of a link to the source material for these?
I took the materials from here:
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/communist-goals-congressional.htm
This is the same website where I found the interview with [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16110&forum=40&22]Richard Wurmbrand
Also I can see that this list appears in many other sites. Just enter for example first goal in google and you will get the results.
This list was NOT written by any "Communists"-- it appears to be apart of a larger list presented by a strong anti-communist Representative... that came from a book, which possibly (probably) drew from another somewhat 'infamous' list, which had 10 'goals' that these seem to draw from.
Completely and utterly spurious, has no factual basis. It is not something the Communists apparently ever wrote or sent out.
In summary: This is a ridiculous, if laughable, list. That, while you may think to be "prophetic" even if its fake, is nothing more than right-wing propaganda to make you afraid that somehow the "Commies" are still around, hidden in the Left, etc. Ridiculous. The reason social norms have been laxed, etc., and that homosexuality is more apparent is due to sin, and not due to any Communist conspiracy like this.
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/commrule.htm
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
BTW, The fact that this was "read" into the CR doesn't mean much, you can basically read anything into the CR with consent/permission.
Jordan
eye opening, for sure.
As the Church of Jesus Christ, not being stymied by such a report, we see that as a call to prayer.
Hi everyone.
I took a few minutes to look into this list and found a link which attributes it to a book called
"The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen. The link says this list, which supposedly appears in the book, is what was read into the Congressional record.
I found an article about the author, which mentions the book, at wikipedia. Here is the link for that [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleon_Skousen]wikipedia article
For myself, if the author was indeed a practicing Mormon, it would be enough to make me disinterested, or at least extra cautious in examining these claims.
Chris
enid wrote:
I don't see how Zworykin is any different from a drug pusher.
I think that this is stretching things a bit Enid. Remember that he regrets inventing the tv years after he invented it. The key is that he invented it. He never knew what the tv would show today, but he saw what his invention had become, and he didn't want it to become what it had.
Saying that Zworykin is no different than a drug pusher is like saying George Eastmann (inventor of the camera) is no different than a pornography producer.
It is not something the Communists apparently ever wrote or sent out.
So what you're saying Jordan, is that the Democrats didn't plagiarize the list afterall. That's a relief!
(Just kidding...)
MC
no TV!
"You won't go to Heaven because you got rid of a TV, you won't go to Hell because you have one. It's a case of your intimacy with God."
~Leonard Ravenhill
Compton, i have great respect for you here... my brother, the main reason i abandoned christiansunite was because i hated the slander against a single party, in all reality against any and all(this being the democrats) when both of them (though i believe there might be individuals that are represented in both parties with christian values) have completely devilish agendas. so, though it might be in cynicsm and sarcasm that you do comment, i just don't find that appealing? what do you think my brother? can i affirm also that i love you again (just so that you know i say this with a humble and loving heart) thanks
by the way, in order for capitalism to work, that also has to directly contradict the ordinances of God, though not as blatantly as Communism did(which it's ideologies for the [b]most parts was palatable
sam
what do you think my brother?
Well, I think you are a good brother to give correction so graciously. I was being abit teasing there. Forgive me.
I'm not really a moonbat for any political party...but now and then I do get ornery. (I usually come to regret it.)
Thanks.
MC
Completely and utterly spurious, has no factual basis. It is not something the Communists apparently ever wrote or sent out.In summary: This is a ridiculous, if laughable, list. That, while you may think to be "prophetic" even if its fake, is nothing more than right-wing propaganda to make you afraid that somehow the "Commies" are still around, hidden in the Left, etc. Ridiculous. The reason social norms have been laxed, etc., and that homosexuality is more apparent is due to sin, and not due to any Communist conspiracy like this.
Jordan,
Can well appreciate getting the facts straight and would be the first to be very wary about conspiracy theories, especially amongst Christians who are often taken away, carried away with matters.
But I would challenge your comments about this being ridiculous. Setting aside the intent of the list, to read it back-wards or just at face value, pretty exacting regardless.
This ideology can go by many names and certainly has morphed into society, at the root it is all 'God-less'. Here is some perspective to consider;
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