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lights Apr 22, 2007

:-( Hello Im new to this forum. Im in desperate need of pray for my marriage,we dont have a church near to go to so we dont go. We have been beleivers for 18 years and my husband was a big dope smoker before we became beleivers over the last 2 years he has started using again and lies to me about it but the word says I need to forgive him so I do,he has stopped again for now but the trust has gone. I dont know what to do. lights

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tjservant Apr 22, 2007

I will be in prayer for you and yours

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lights Apr 22, 2007

Yes I have. And yes I have!! So what are you really saying? That Im a fake??

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tjservant Apr 22, 2007

????

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lights Apr 22, 2007

Dont worry about it Im not worthy

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crsschk Apr 22, 2007

Yes I have. And yes I have!! So what are you really saying? That Im a fake??

Welcome light's,

Could you help us here? Unsure what you are referring to ...

I know very well your plight, very well.

[i]Edit: I think I see it now. Dear sister, the quote at he bottom of tjservant's reply is what is known as a "signature". It is a place for a quotation that you can setup in your profile and carries over in every reply, think of it as like a bumper sticker on your car.[/i]

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PaulWest Apr 22, 2007

Very good you caught that, Mike! Like TJ, I was also scratching my head. Never even thought about his signature.

Have a wonderful Lord's day!

Brother Paul

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tjservant Apr 22, 2007

Lights

Thanks to Mike I now understand you’re reply.

That is a quote from K. P. Yohannan, not my response to your request.

I will pray for your situation.

Sorry for the misunderstanding…it must have seemed very harsh.

God bless you…and yours.

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SeanHobson Apr 22, 2007

I wil pray..

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lights Apr 22, 2007

Oh dear Im sorry I thought it was you reply, please forgive me for my error. lights thanks for all your prayers

sermonindex Apr 22, 2007

Lights, this is a delicate situation. In your letter you said that because the Word tells me to forgive him, I forgave him. But what does your heart tell you? Do you really want to forgive him? I can do what the Word tell me to do, but I may do it half heartedly, I'll do it because I 'have' to.

You must begin to trust him again, or your marriage is over. He's fallen into a trap and the last thing that he needs is to fall further. You don't want to act like the Church today, they fold up their arms when someone falls into sin and bar the door so that they don't get in, unless they take a 12 step program they won't forgive him.

By not trusting him, your going to lose him to another woman or he'll go further into drugs, and your going to grow bitter and hateful as the days go by. I know this because my Sister has gone thru this mess. But her case was another woman. One day, they both sat down and he told her about the other woman, why he fell for her and thus and thus. Because they both opened up to one another and displayed their fears and such, their marriage is on the road to recovery.

You need to hound him to get answers. Pray for him yes, but get at him. Don't let that devil take your man. See beyond flesh, see beyond the drugs, see a soul that needs to get things right with you and God. You need to find out why he has gone to drugs again. When he finally opens up, be prepared, you never know what is revealed, so learn to not take offenses. A quick way to get rid of an offense is to boldly inquire at that moment as to why such and such was said, and display your feelings to that person and how you felt about it. Holding something inside without talking about it does more injury to your spiritual walk, and furthermore, God doesn't hear our prayers.

You need to TRUST him again!, Think of the times that you have sinned, did the LORD remove the holy Spirit? No, He has ENTRUSTED you with His faith to see you thru.

Your in for a battle, so mark that down in your mind.

1 Corinthians 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
Your going to endure this, and your not going to harden your heart, your going to love that man, your going to pray for him and your going to stay close to him.

God Bless

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crsschk Apr 22, 2007

Compliments.

That is very poor. Don't start proscribbing ends to situations that you are not yourself entrenched in, please. I too know first hand what I am speaking of.

sermonindex Apr 22, 2007

I too know first hand what I am speaking of.
WONDERFUL Brother. Perhaps you could share with LIGHTS your story, bring encouragement to a heart that is down trodden. ;-)

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crsschk Apr 22, 2007

Let me follow this up a bit. Not everything you have stated is poor. I am just chagrined at the presumptions that can be forwarded by way of comparison's with 'our' experiences, as if they were somehow transferable situation to situation. Fact is, we do not have all the facts and even if we did it is presumptuous to declare the end from the beginning, that is the Lords own providence.

This might sting a little but there are some among us who fancy themselves counselors and others who do not but still give out medication regardless and I am just throwing up a caution flag about how we go about these things. Be careful with your advice and be careful those who are accepting such advice. If we are not careful we can end up worsening situations by putting notions in believers heads, expectations and fears.

My own situation with this has been of a great, long endurance, both as a former 20 plus years user and the sheer gut wrenching spiritual battle that put it to a decided end. It continues on in my own loved ones and that has been mentioned here on more than a few occasions. To bore out all the details and difficulties over the course of the last 4 or 5 years now and make those the example and the declared ends would be of no use. I have learned some things certainly, have tried everything under the sun, have sinned greatly, been angered, frustrated, perplexed, broken, weeping, speak, don't speak ... pray forever and a day and still do so...

The point is there is no knowing what may yet come. Deliverance is possible. Suffering is possible, duration and enduring, waiting. It may be short or long. In my case it was a gradual tapering off until it reached it's zenith and point of no return. The former may apply to the one whose loved one it is still in the throes of this matter.

What I have learned is to ultimately trust the Lord moment by moment, situation and circumstance by circumstance. It has largely left me silent and not speaking and that is [i]NOT[/i] advice nor would be that which I perceived and still do as to "Just love her." It varies, it is not all silent either.

To the sister who has put this forward here I wouldn't even taken this as advice, it is not, other than to trust the Lord, He may well have you confront the situation or approach matters quite differently. For us I would only ask that we pray for our sister.

sermonindex Apr 22, 2007

What I have learned is to ultimately trust the Lord moment by moment, situation and circumstance by circumstance.
I hear your heart brother, thank you for sharing that. I know that you feel that you weren't giving advice, in an indirect way you were and it was very good.

Whatever it is that we battle with, and I know EXACTLY what your talking about.

The point is there is no knowing what may yet come. Deliverance is possible. Suffering is possible, duration and enduring, waiting. It may be short or long. In my case it was a gradual tapering off until it reached it's zenith and point of no return
For me it was gradual tapering off too, it was a very long time, sometimes it felt like an eternity, but mostly it felt like hell. And you wondered where God was in it all, He was there the whole time.
there are some among us who fancy themselves counselors
If we could find some godly counselors that would be a plus, but I know of no one, accept Jesus.

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