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firstfruit Apr 30, 2007

Walking with Christ is said to be where the rubber meets the road......so I would like some down to earth spiritual advice.
I met an old school friend(30 yrs. alumni!) whom I've ocassionally ran into thru the years.
We had coffee together; talked of old times, etc..
He ask me to get together some with him, dinner, movies, outdoor excursions, etc..
He is a Christian(saved when teenager - as was I).
Apparently as adults we lived different choices.
By God's grace, I left a drug influenced lifestyle and have walked with the Lord- certainly not without failings; while he as an adult fell into alcoholism; two failed marriages; domestic battery charges.
I know his parents, both godly Christians and can only imagine their sorrow over their son.
He says he has been to rehab, both secular and Christian. And he has been trying to repair his broken relationship with his two grown children.
He and his second wife have been separated five years and now filing for divorce.

But I wonder if I'm stepping in a big mess to 'see' him as a friend and brother in the Lord?
I've never married and told him I was not interested in marriage or any romantic ties with anyone. Talking with him as an old school alumni; meeting his parents, who are absolutely delightful was fun. His mother has very serious health problems as well.

Please give a sister some advice.

sermonindex Apr 30, 2007

But I wonder if I'm stepping in a big mess to 'see' him as a friend and brother in the Lord?
I've never married and told him I was not interested in marriage or any romantic ties with anyone. Talking with him as an old school alumni; meeting his parents, who are absolutely delightful was fun. His mother has very serious health problems as well.

I would strongly advise you not to spend time with him alone. He is going through alot of problems and its probably a relieve for him to spend time with another women. The best thing you can do for him is pray. I am sure you can meet with him in groups such as church events but I would be weary of doing more.

Each situation has its own details and problems. But it seems like this is a ongoing problem with him and needs to be solved with him and God. Friendships are good but I think he might need a good godly man in his life to encourage him and challange him in the Lord.

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firstfruit Apr 30, 2007

Thank you Greg!
In my heart I already knew this but think old memories from school days long since past was clouding the reality.


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iansmith Apr 30, 2007

firstfruit wrote:
He is a Christian(saved when teenager - as was I)... he as an adult fell into alcoholism; two failed marriages; domestic battery charges.

I'm certainly no expert... but there is a very real chance that he was never a Christian. You might want to listen to some of Paul Washer's messages on assurance before you spend time with him, then you'll know how to pray for him.

sermonindex Apr 30, 2007

He is a Christian(saved when teenager - as was I)... he as an adult fell into alcoholism; two failed marriages; domestic battery charges.

Certainly not the fruits of a spirit filled life.

To be honest, I dont think you should have a good friendship with him because thats where love takes root and grows. You're playing with fire.

I dont know this guy, and I'm not going to play judge... however, there is one thing that alcholics and wife beaters have in common... they are terrific [b]liars[/b].

By the way, no one "falls into" alcoholism. He made choices that led him there. He didnt wake up an alcoholic one day. It's [b]not[/b] a disease, it's a sin, and if he was a Christian he knew that... and ignored God and made a conscience choice to disobey and do his own thing. Thank the Lord he came out of that, hopefully he's being honest about it.

I know because I was an alcoholic before I was saved. I was not sick, I was a sinner. Nor am I a "recovering alcoholic", as they say. I was saved and I walked away from that sin.

He says he's been to rehab, and he's straightened his life out. I hope and pray for his sake that he is being truthful about that. But do you want to be the one to find out for sure? Ask yourself this question: Would I want my daughter to be involved with someone with a history like he has? If the answer is no (which it should be), then ask yourself: Then why would I choose that for myself?

Then there is the whole remarriage issue. He may not even be "elegible" according to scripture to remarry, if he is truly a Christian.

Your soul, and your life, should be your priority. A lot of women meet men like this, feel sorry for them, think they can help them "become whole" again... and then find themselves in the same abusive situation in which his former wives found themselves.

There are red flags all over this, my dear. You need to keep this gentleman at a healthy distance. I would recommend you not spend any time with him because you're already expression an interest in the possibility of where all this might lead.

If God has someone for you, let Him bring that person to you. And when that person is standing in front of you... there will be no red flags.

Krispy

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BenK Apr 30, 2007

I would be very careful about making blanket statements about addiction and alcholism. The medical community does recognizes alcholism as a disease. I'm not saying that and alcoholic ( I am a recovered one) doesn't make the choice to sinfully drink himself into his disease, but the end result has a medical component. Smoking causes cancer, but the cancer is not the sin, it is a result of the sin.

sermonindex Apr 30, 2007

This thread isnt about alcoholism... it's about this dear sister asking for guidance.

Please dont divert the topic. I'd be more than happy to discuss alcoholism on another thread if you want to start one. :-)

Fact is, no one "falls into" alcoholism, or drug addiction. People choose to sin and ignore God, and they go down the path... by their own choice. (unless you're a Calvinist! Then you cant help it...)

Krispy

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Nile Apr 30, 2007

I'm very young and I don't have much wisdom, but I can tell you this:

Don't be alone together!!!

And that has nothing to do with his/your past. No matter who it is, I don't care if he's been a pastor for 30 years, two adults of the opposite sex should not be spending time alone together!!! I believe it is one of the most foolish things you can do. I say this based on the Bible, historical Christianity, respectable teachers, countless testimonies, personal experience, and even pagan societies of the past.

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awakenwithin Apr 30, 2007

I'm very young and I don't have much wisdom, but I can tell you this:

Don't be alone together!!!


you may be young, but you are wise.
Amen!!
In his love
charlene

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