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Heredical Antinomian Creed

sermonindex May 2, 2007

John Fletcher has a Masterpeice, two volume set called "Checks to Antinomianism". It is one of the best works on Christian perfection and conditional security that has ever been written.

He confronted Antinomian Calvinists in his day. Here is an exerpt from his book. This is a "Calvinistic Creed" which should make you sick to your stomach. It's hard to believe that there are people that actually believe this kind of stuff. But this is the result of the Calvinistic "Imputed Righteousness" or what Fletcher calls the "mystical" and "imagionary righteousness" which supposedly covers even present and future sins!

Check it out for yourself. Here is the Antinomian Heredical Creed:

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Five Letters, 1st edit. pp. 33, 34, 27. "I most firmly believe, that the grand cause of so much lifeless profession is owing to the sheep of Christ being fed in the barren pastures and muddled waters of a legalized Gospel. The doctrines of grace are not to be kept out of sight for fear men of corrupt minds should abuse them. I will no more be so fearful to trust God with his own truths, as to starve his children and my own soul: I will make an open confession of my faith."

"1. I believe in God the Father Almighty, who from [b]all eternity unconditionally predestinated me to life, and absolutely chose me to eternal salvation[/b]. Whom he once loved he will love for ever; I am therefore persuaded, (pp. 28, 31,) that as he did not set his love on me at first for any thing in me, so that love, which is not at all dependent upon any thing in me, can never vary on account of my miscarriages: and for this reason; [b][u]when[/u] I miscarry, suppose by adultery or murder, God ever considers me as one with his own Son, who has fulfilled all righteousness [u]for me[/u].[/b] And as he is '[b]always[/b] well pleased' with him, so with me, who am absolutely 'bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh.' (pp. 26, 31.) [b]There are no lengths, then, I may not run, nor any depths I may not fall into, without displeasing him; as I see in David, who, notwithstanding his repeated backslidings, did not lose the character of the man after God's own heart.[/b] I may [b]murder[/b] with him, worship Ashtaroth with Solomon, [b]deny[/b] Christ with Peter, [b]rob[/b] with Onesimus, and commit [b]incest[/b] with the Corinthian, without forfeiting either the Divine favour or the kingdom of glory. 'Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect?' to the charge of a believer? to my charge? For,

"2. (Pages 26, 27, 32.) I believe in Jesus Christ, that 'by one offering has for ever perfected' me, who am [b]'sanctified' in all my sins[/b]: in him I am [b]complete in all my iniquities[/b]. What is all sin before his atoning blood? Either he has fulfilled the whole law, and borne the curse, or he has not. If he has not, no soul can he saved; if he has, then all debts and claims against his people and me, be they more [i](suppose a thousand adulteries, and so many murders) [/i] or be they less, ([i]suppose only one robbery,)[/i] be they small or Be they great, be they before or be they after my conversion, are for ever and for ever cancelled. I set up no more mountainous distinctions of sin, [b]especially sins after conversion[/b]. Whether I am dejected with Elijah under the juniper tree, or worshipping Milcom with Solomon; whether I mistake the voice of the Lord for that of his priest, as Samuel, or [b]defile my neighbour's bed[/b], as David, [b]I am equally accepted in the Beloved[/b]. For in Christ I am chosen, loved, called, and unconditionally preserved to the end. All trespasses are forgiven me. I am justified from all things. I already have everlasting life. Nay, I am now (virtually) set down in heavenly places with Christ; and as soon shall Satan pluck his crown from his head, as his purchase from his hand."

Pages 27, 28. "Yes, I avow it in the face of all the world; [b]no falls or backslidings can ever bring me again under condemnation;[/b] for Christ hath made me free from the law of sin and death. [b]Should I outsin Manasses himself, I should not be a less pleasant child; because God always views me in Christ, and in him I am without spot or wrinkle, or any such thing. Black in myself, I am still comely through the comeliness put upon me: and therefore He 'who is of purer eyes than to behold iniquity,' can, [u]in the midst of all adulteries, murders, and incests[/u], address me with, 'Thou art all fair, my love, my undefiled; there is no spot in thee!'[/b] And,

"3. I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of grace, [b]against whom I can never sin,[/b] (p. 26,) whose light and love I can never quench, to whom I can never do despite, and who, in his good time, will [b]irresistibly and infallibly [/b](Review, p. 38) work in me to will and to do. In the meantime I am perfectly secure; for [b]I can never perish[/b], my salvation being already finished 'in the full extent of the expression.' (Review, p. 63, &c.)

"Once, indeed, I supposed, that 'the wrath of God came,' at least for enormous crimes, 'upon the children of disobedience;' and [b]I thought it would come upon me if I committed adultery and murder: but now I discover my mistake, and believe [/b](p. 28 and 25)[b] it is a capital error to confound me and my actions. While my murders, &c, certainly displease God, my person stands always absolved, always complete, always pleasant in the everlasting righteousness of the Redeemer[/b]. I repeat it, (2d edit. p. 37,) it is a most pernicious error of the school-men, to distinguish sins according to the fact, and not according to the person. [b]He that believeth hath as great sin as the unbeliever: nay, his sins, (p. 32,) for the matter of them are perhaps more heinous and scandalous than those of the unbeliever; but although [u]he daily sinneth[/u], perhaps as David and the Corinthian, by adultery, murder, and incest, [u]he continueth godly[/u]. [/b]

"[b]Before I was acquainted with the truth, I imagined that sin would dishonour God and injure me[/b]: but since the preachers of [b]finished salvation[/b] have opened my eyes, I see how greatly I was mistaken. And now I believe that God will overrule my sin, [i](whether it be adultery, murder, or incest,) [/i]for his glory and my good.

"(1.) [b]For his glory. (Pages 36, 30, 31, 32.) God often permits his own dearest children to commit adultery, murder, and incest, to bring about his purposes.[/b] He has always the same thing in view, namely, [b]his own glory and, my salvation[/b], together with that of the other elect. [b][u]This[/u] Adam was accomplishing when he put the whole world under the curse; Onesimus when he robbed Philemon his master; Judah when he committed incest with Tamar; and David when he committed adultery with Bathsheba. How has many a poor, faithless soul even blessed God for Peter's denial![/b] As for the incestuous Corinthian, the tenderness shown him after his crime, has raised many out of the mire, and caused them to recover their first love.

(2.) "For my good. (Page 32.) God has promised to make 'all things work for good to me;' and if all things, then [b]my very sins and corruptions are included in the royal promise[/b]. Should I be asked, What particular good sin will do me in time and in eternity? I answer:

A grievous fall [suppose into adultery, murder, or incest] shall serve to make me know my place, to drive me nearer to Christ, to make me more dependent upon his strength, to keep me more watchful, to cause me to sympathize with the fallen, and to make me sing louder to the praise of free, sovereign, restoring grace, throughout all the ages of eternity. Thus, although I highly blame (p. 33,) those who roundly say, 'Let us sin that grace may abound,' I do not [b]legalize the Gospel[/b], but openly declare, (p. 27,) that [b]if I commit adultery, murder, or incest, before or after my conversion, grace shall irresistibly and infallibly abound over these, and all my other sins, be they small or be they great, be they more or be they less. My foulest falls will only drive me nearer to Christ, and make me sing (p. 32) his praises louder than if I had not fallen. Thus [to say nothing of the sweetness and profit which may now arise from sin] adultery, incest, and murder shall, upon the whole, make me holier upon earth, and merrier in heaven." [/b]


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As you can clearly say why, Fletcher hammers against such false doctrines all throughout his Checks to Antinomianism. He not only abundantly scripturally attacks such heresies, but his wit and satire will have you laughing for hours!

Here is a short example of Fletchers humors. Calvinists in his day were calling ALL good works "dung, dross, filthy rags" and not just hypocritcal good works. This is Fletchers response:

Having thus endeavoured to rescue the passages on which you found your assertion concerning good works, and proved that there is not one scripture which gives you the least authority to call them either dung, dross, or filthy rags; to convince you that a heap of impious absurdities lies concealed under that doctrine, permit me to produce some of the scriptures where good works are mentioned: and to substitute to that phrase the hard names which, you tell us, the Scripture authorizes you to call them.

"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, {i.e. your dung,] and glorify your Father who is in heaven." "She has wrought a good work [i.e. a filthy rag] upon me, against my burial." "Dorcas was full of good works," [i.e. of dung and rags.] "God make you to abound in every good work," i.e. in every sort of dung and dross. "We are created in Christ Jesus to good works," i.e. to filthy rags, "which God had prepared for us to walk in." "Walk worthy of the Lord, being fruitful in every good work," i.e. in every filthy rag. "God establish you in every good work," i.e. in dung of every sort. "Provoke one another to love and good works," i.e. to dross and rags. "Be zealous of good works," i.e. of filthy rags. "Be rich in good works," i.e. in dross. "Be careful to maintain good works," i.e. dung. "Let the Gentiles by your good works," i.e. your dung, "which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation." "Be thoroughly furnished to every good work: be perfect in every good work," i.e. in dung and dross of every kind.

"Blessed are they that die in the Lord, for their works," i.e. their dung and rags, "follow them." "God is not unrighteous, to forget your work," i.e. your dung, "that proceedeth of love." "The Gentiles should do works," i.e. dung, "meet for repentance." "Esteem ministers highly in love for their work's [i.e. their dung's,] sake." "If he have not works," i.e. dung, "can faith save him?" "Faith without works," i.e. without filthy rags, "is dead." "By works," i.e. dung, "was Abraham's faith made perfect." "he and Rahab were justified by works," by filthy rags. "He that believeth in me, the works that I do shall he do also, and greater works than these," i.e. filthier rags, and more ornamental dung, "shall he do." "This is the work," i.e. the dung, "of God, that you believe," &c.

Indeed, sir, I am almost ashamed to take up the "filthy rag" of this bad divinity, though it is only with the point of my pen, to hold it out a moment to public view, that the world may be sick of barefaced Antinomianism. I drop it again into the sink of defiled religion, out of which Dr. Crisp raked it; and beg for the honour of Christ and your own, that you will no more recommend it as pure Gospel.

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I think that it would do some good for the Christians of this generation to revive this masterpeice and thoroughly saturate yourself in it.

Either buy Fletchers Checks from abe.com or print it off and read from the websites that have it online.

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HomeFree89 May 2, 2007

Very interesting...

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roaringlamb May 2, 2007

Yes but even those who held to Historic Calvinist beliefs were against the Antinomian Calvinists, as well as the Neonomian Calvinists.

True Calvinism does not allow for law breaking Jesse, and it seems that you confuse Hyper-Calvinism with true Calvinism, as many do.

I wish more people would look into it themsleves rather than believing those who demonize Calvinism without knowledge of it, I did for many years only to be astounded by what I found was true Historic Calvinism, or even what John Calvin himself did say rather than what he did not say. If one can with an unbiased mind and heart look into it, and then say that it is wrong, then amen, you have done your duty to study to show yourself approved. If however one just simply writes it off based on what they have been taught about it, or heard about it, then that is an uneducated, unintelligent bashing of something without any backbone to support it.

Read the Synod of Dort, and see the objections and resolutions that were reached, and why they were reached. This is where the Arminians were putting forth their "remonstrants" or "five points of Arminianism". In answer to these the members of the Synod composed the "five points of Calvinism". Calvin had been dead for a bit, so this was not like he sat down and composed these five points to spell out the acronym T.U.L.I.P.(which by the way is a horrible butchering of the theology behind each letter).

I have found that it is very very easy to "demonize" a person and thus not have to be challenged to see if there is any truth to it. Sadly this is what happens too often.

P.S. I once was of the Arminian belife, so I do practise what I "preach" :-D

sermonindex May 2, 2007

To me, Calvinism seems to be very confusing because there are so many different forms of it.

I heard that Perseverence of the Saints means true Christians simply do not sin ever.

I heard the Perseverence of the Saints mean's true Christians only sin sometimes, but normally obey.

And then John Piper says that He sins every single day, and that all of his future (daily) sins are already automaticly forgiven, so I don't know where He fits into the Perseverence doctrine.

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PreachParsly May 3, 2007

To me, Calvinism seems to be very confusing because there are so many different forms of it.

That isn't a Calvinism phenomena, thats a man phenomena! Rarely ever do you find those that are stuck in the same "group" agree on everything, the same emphasis, or in the same light.

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theopenlife May 3, 2007

John Piper says that He sins every single day, and that all of his future (daily) sins are already automaticly forgiven, so I don't know where He fits into the Perseverence doctrine.

My understanding of Piper is that he believes [i]perseverance of the saints[/i] implies a continuance in genuine faith, not a cessation of sin altogether. He would further assert that geuine faith is trademarked by a progressive abandonment to righteousness.

In general I agree with this. In Acts, Paul commended the new disciples to "continue in the faith" and "in the grace of God." Although Peter at a time needed rebuking from Paul, he definately continued in the faith of Christ's righteousness and his genuine faith was demonstrated in a holy life... not justified by it.

My two cents.
Much love, Jesse.

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theopenlife May 3, 2007

By the way, I read that creed and was quite disgusted. It reminded me of what Whitefield said to John Wesley, in defense of Calvinistic doctrine, something to the effect of,

No one who was ever saved was saved into anything besides holiness.

As for the section about "works as dung", I disagreed with Fletcher's logic. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I am a somewhat new believer, but plain reading of the scripture teaches that God does not despise good works from even unsaved men; He rather demands them. However, even the best of works are "as filthy rags" if used [b]as a substitute[/b] to the righteousness of Christ.

On the subject of "filthy rags", I find it interesting that the words mean "used menstrual cloths", which creates a powerful word picture. Think about it, a menstrual cloth bears blood and energy that, of itself, cannot produce life. Even so, apart from the seed of Christ's life our good works are lifeless, wasted energy.

Praise God that He has offered His righteousness to all who will not trust in their works!

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whyme May 3, 2007

The Bible teaches simply that that which is not done by faith is sin. It is not merely the act that defines righteousness or makes a deed righteous, it is the motive, desire or heart behind it. That is why our deeds done apart from Christ, for He now is the end of faith, are filthy. Without faith it is impossible to please God.

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death2self May 3, 2007

I don't get into doctrinal discussions much but would strongly suggest that you pray about purchasing a book on the issue of perseverance of the saints entitled "Life in the Son" which was written by a man named Robert Shank, a wonderful Southern Baptist preacher.

Blessings to you....

sermonindex May 3, 2007

Yes but even those who held to Historic Calvinist beliefs were against the Antinomian Calvinists, as well as the Neonomian Calvinists.

True Calvinism does not allow for law breaking Jesse, and it seems that you confuse Hyper-Calvinism with true Calvinism, as many do.


Whitefield, Spurgeon, McCheyne, Baxter, Calvin himself would be against the creed you stated. As the one brother put it, these are "other forms" of calvanistic thought that deviate from truth.

All true religion leads to holiness whether we call it arminism or calvanism. The bible does not use either phrase but rather "true religion that is from above" and the "doctrine that is according to godliness."

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PaulWest May 3, 2007

All true religion leads to holiness whether we call it arminism or calvanism. The bible does not use either phrase but rather "true religion that is from above" and the "doctrine that is according to godliness."

Amen. This Arminianism/Calvinism thing is like a bog of mud that so many people just wallow in and spin their wheels. When my car gets stuck in the mud, I look for something to slide beneath the tires for traction [i]to get it out[/i]. I find that adherence to the doctrines of holy living, humility, charity, long-suffering and self-denial work wonders. There's no greater board to "slide beneath the spinning wheel" than to gaze on Christ. The more His countenance grows brighter and brighter, the more my doctrinal quirks seem to shrivel up in the heat of the blaze. I have found that the more I divert my eyes from [i]self[/i], the more traction I am afforded to escape such mud holes.

Brother Paul

sermonindex May 13, 2007

one of the most amazing verses of the bible,


"the gifts and [b]calling[/b] of God are without repentance.... ahh, i remember when this verse really hit me hard was about 2 years ago while listening to the interview with Mr. Len. but, since then it has amazed me where this verse shows up. Just about every other thread started on this board, esp in regards to spiritual discernment and ministries is attached to this verse. i still dont know i fully grasp this verse, but with honesty i can tell you it has been in my mind day by day now for 2 years.

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philologos May 13, 2007

He confronted Antinomian Calvinists in his day. Here is an exerpt from his book. This is a "Calvinistic Creed" which should make you sick to your stomach. It's hard to believe that there are people that actually believe this kind of stuff. But this is the result of the Calvinistic "Imputed Righteousness" or what Fletcher calls the "mystical" and "imagionary righteousness" which supposedly covers even present and future sins!

I am no Calvinist. However I am curious to know whether or not it is Fletcher or you who describes antinomianism as the result of 'Calvinistic Imputed Righteousness'?

John Wesley and Fletcher believed most decidedly in 'imputed righteousness'. You are making the same mistake as your mentor Finney in setting imputed righteousness in opposition to imparted righteousness. Wesley insisted on both truths.

Some Calvinists may deny 'imparted righteousness' but then their error is not that they preach 'imputed righteousness' but that they don't preach 'imparted righteousness'.

I am not sure why you have set yourself up as the champion of Finneyism but I suggest that you are not using these forums in the spirit in which they are intended. They are entitled 'Discussion Forums'... to dump propagandist statements here and then to refuse to discuss them is, in my view, a misuse of SI hospitality.

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JaySaved May 13, 2007

I am not sure why you have set yourself up as the champion of Finneyism but I suggest that you are not using these forums in the spirit in which they are intended. They are entitled 'Discussion Forums'... to dump propagandist statements here and then to refuse to discuss them is, in my view, a misuse of SI hospitality.

I agree.

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RobertW May 14, 2007

Jesse's: I think that it would do some good for the Christians of this generation to revive this masterpeice and thoroughly saturate yourself in it.

The solution to the 'sin' problem is not more fear, uncertainty and doubt (F.U.D) of our salvation. I am convinced of this. Conditional insecurity leads no one to holiness. No amount of FUD can replace a life changing encounter with God that regenerates an individual into a new creature.

Is it really fair to find the most unbalanced believers to set up arguments against? Folk who actually believe they can live as murderers and be saved? It's easy to claim victory when your best arguments are arranged against your opponents weakest assertions.

Not everyone is so extreme. There is a balance to the word of God. No need for me to read more Finny type materials. I have already reckoned with the fact that his strength is preaching revivals and getting folk to stir the fallow ground of their heart up and resolve their controversies with God. But we can't live on revival preaching. It will kill you. It is one self-exam after the next. Imagine trying to exist in a relationship like that? In relationships folk don't walk around preoccupied with whether or not they have offended their partner or friend. I don't think it is a fair representation of God to always suggest that God is keeping some kind of score on us. It creates a works based- salvation by sanctification.

We know if we sin. The Holy Spirit brings conviction. I am coming to see the weakness of this type of fear based Christianity all together. Folk are never really able to stop and smell the roses. They are in a perpetual state of uncertainty. There is no hell on earth quite like the uncertainty of not knowing where you stand with God. Always worried. Am I good enough? Am I holy enough? Am I doing enough (works)? Am I being a good steward of God's goods? Can I salt my food? Can I plant flowers or must it be only vegetables? Can I eat sweet meats? Did I waste some of God's money and now stand in jeopardy? This is major bondage!

We have a clear outline of how we are supposed be born again and live walking in the Spirit. If we take all the counsel of God together it works. If we leave things out we create symptoms that require a new theology to counter and so on and so forth. We need imputed and imparted righteousness. We need to walk in the Spirit. We simply cannot alter the Gospel message in order to counter folks lawlessness. Let God deal with the consequences. We don't have to intervene for Him by coming up with alternate Gospel's. The True Gospel when rightly lived out through the born again experience cannot be improved upon to the intent of pleasing God.

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philologos May 14, 2007

Wesley and Fletcher were pretty much inseparable in their understanding of justification and sanctification. Here is one of Wesley's classic sermons.

[url=http://wesley.nnu.edu/john_wesley/sermons/020.htm]The Lord our Righteousness.[/url]

Fletcher's own work on [url=http://wesley.nnu.edu/john_fletcher/An%20Equal%20Check.htm]An Equal Check to Pharisaism and Antinomianism[/url] is also available online.

Sometime ago I introduced a theme which may have some links to this in [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=0&topic_id=5112&forum=36&post_id=&refresh=Go]once justified, always justifed?[/url] There may be some comments there that would interest some.

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