Rick Warren and Robert Murdock

I hope some one will tell me this story is not true.....I checked out the links given at the end of the article and they confirm this articles' thesis.

Oddly enough, this morning I was reading in Ezekiel 16 and the message God gave to Ezekiel sound like he was talking to moderns, like Rick Warren, Robert Murdock, et al.

So, what else is new?

ginnyrose

Rick Warren, Purpose-Driven Pornography?
ORANGE COUNTY, Calif., May 4 /Christian Newswire/ -- Chris Rosebrough, who heads the Christian Accountability Network, and authors the blogs ExtremeTheology.com and ALittleLeaven.com, is calling on Pastor Rick Warren, author of the Purpose-Driven Life to discipline media mogul, Rupert Murdoch for owning and expanding a network of pornographic channels in Europe.

Said Rosebrough, "Rupert Murdoch is a born-again Christian and Rick Warren claims to be his pastor. As a Christian, Murdoch is committing an egregious sin by owning, expanding and profiting from pornographic channels and Rick Warren, as his pastor, has a Biblical duty to call Murdoch to repentance and/or put him out of the church."

"Sadly, Murcdoch's actions have already damaged his credibility as a Christian" said Rosebrough. "If Pastor Warren does not act swiftly and call on Murdoch to dismantle his porn distribution network, then the credibility of the Christian message will be compromised around the globe."

According to Rosebrough, "This is a clear case of a Christian openly committing a monstrous and unthinkable sin. The Bible clearly states in 1 Corinthians 5 that when a Christian brother is openly and unrepentantly engaging in sins of this magnitude the church must discipline that person. As his Pastor, Rick Warren has a Biblical duty to call Murdoch to repentance for this sin and/or put him out of the church."

Some speculate that the reason that Warren hasn't already acted on this is because Murdoch's News Corp owns Zondervan, the company that published Warren's run away best seller The Purpose-Driven Life. Said Rosebrough, "Warren and Zondervan are currently working on an updated and revised edition of the Purpose Driven Church. That book is scheduled to be released later this year. We hope that Warren's business ties to Murdoch's company haven't clouded his judgement and impacted his resolve to carry out his Biblical duty as Murdoch's Pastor."

Research Links
Warren stating that he is Murdoch's pastor. www.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ArtID=9636

Business Journal Article that chronicles the expansion of Murdoch's porn channels www.thebusinessonline.com/Docu ment.aspx?id=B224C88D-3D13-4652-9D22- 33FD2D80FD2C

Christian Newswire

Sadly, this is not surprising to me :-(

Unfortunately, this is the kind of news that will bring varying comments from Christians who will give 'opinions' rather than having a sound Biblical stance on the matter.

Oh well, let battle commence.

God bless.

I'm amazed that anyone would think that Rupert Murdcoh is a born again Christian. Surely his life demonstrates that it is simply not true. Seriously, where does the idea come from that Murdoch is born again?

teamtoucan wrote:
I'm amazed that anyone would think that Rupert Murdcoh is a born again Christian. Surely his life demonstrates that it is simply not true. Seriously, where does the idea come from that Murdoch is born again?

Simple: From other false brethren.

Simple: From other false brethren.

You are right.

Professing Christ does not a Christian make. Many have been told they are Christians and most of the Christians they know act just as un-Godly as they do…so almost any and all actions can be justified by them.

A false Gospel has been preached for a very long time; a Gospel that will have devils convinced of their salvation.

ginnyrose, I tried to find the article in the buisness journal on line but could not, could you please tell me the name of it, that I might read it for myself? :eek:

Choochoo wrote: ,

ginnyrose, I tried to find the article in the buisness journal on line but could not, could you please tell me the name of it, that I might read it for myself?

Click on the links given on the bottom of the original aricle. You should be able to pull them up. At least I could when I posted it.

ginnyrose

EDIT: I just tried pulling up the last link and I get a window saying "Service Unavailable". I even tried it from the original email I got. I am no whiz in circumventing a message like this...sorry, I cannot help you.

i think its pointless to discuss whether Murdoch is a Christian or not.. to me its pretty clear, doesnt matter what he claims, its the fruit that shows which camp he is on....

i think its pointless to discuss whether Murdoch is a Christian or not.. to me its pretty clear, doesnt matter what he claims, its the fruit that shows which camp he is on....

Some thoughts about all this...

1. I don't have the relationship or friendship with Rick that permits me to judge him. Actually, are we even allowed to do that???...just a thought) I'm just someone who sees his heart to reach people. Is he perfect - no. Only my wife's first boyfriend and God are perfect! But I do see the fruits of his work. Do I agree with everything he says? No - but we agree enough that I can be involved in his effort to make a difference in this world.

2. If I'm not mistaken, some of these blogger have written multiple negative articles about Rick Warren. I'm starting to think they may have their own hidden agenda. If anything, don't they have a responsibility to not cause more dissension?

3. I'm not aware of the other guys or organizations listed in the article. Probably never would be except for their negativism.

4. Just because someone says it, it doesn't mean it's true. That's even more so when bloggers say something. Anybody can blog or say anything on the internet! Remember this - just because they have a blog doesn't mean they are right.

5. I remember reading that Murdock has several homes - the one listed in California is in Beverly Hills - about an hour and a half to two hours north of Saddleback on a good traffic day. That's a long drive for someone to be a church member. And I don't recall a helicopter pad or airstrip at Saddleback (smile). Rick may be Murdock's pastor (from a distance) but I can't help but wonder if Murdock is actually a member at Saddleback.

6. Assuming that Rick is Murdock's pastor, I have several questions for the writers of these blogs:

1. Do they have anyone in their church who’s not a perfect believer like they obviously are? (Are any fornicators, molesters, liars or gossipers in their pews?)
2. Do they associate with people like this in their church, neighborhood or ministry? (I sure hope so!) Truth is, I'd be grateful if God would let me have enough influence on people like that for them to say I was their pastor!
3. Seems like I remember somewhere that the Pharisees accused Jesus of being a drunkard because he spent time with "unacceptable" people. Now what blog did I read that on???...hmmmm...oh yeah, it was in the Bible! These guys would have a field day with Jesus!

4. What's fair is fair, since they ask Rick to be accountable, can these bloggers give us a daily spiritual update of these progress of the sinners in their churches? Now that would be some good blogging!!!!!

The bottom line: We are both aware of churches and pastors both nationally and in our own towns that have made mistakes. You and I can make a list of churches that have had (or have been rumored to have) multiple episodes of money and moral sin. Some of it goes on as we speak. This has happened for years. If I tried to chase down and point fingers at every transgression I'd waste all the limited time I have to reach an unchurched world and train up disciples. God will judge and I will not condemn publicly. If led by God I will approach those I think are wrong privately but ultimately, God will be the judge. Like the Apostle Paul I will celebrate the fact that at least the gospel is getting out.

To these bloggers I say, Get a life and worry about your own sheep pens!

TJ, I just wanted to say that the scripture at the bottom of your blog is an incredible word. The kind that encourages me to do the same. As in revelation where it says that they overcame the evil one by the blood of the LAMB, by the word of their testimony, and THEY DID NOT LOVE THEIR LIVES UNTO DEATH.(Rev. 12:11)
P.S. I was refering to the scripture that said " they left all and followed Jesus"

Professing Christ does not a Christian make. Many have been told they are Christians and most of the Christians they know act just as un-Godly as they do…so almost any and all actions can be justified by them.

A false Gospel has been preached for a very long time; a Gospel that will have devils convinced of their salvation.