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sermonindex May 5, 2007

In Genesis 1, every day of creation has the verse 'God saw that it was good' (NIV) or a variation of that. But the second day, when God created the sky, is the only day that this phrase is not written.

Is there a reason for this? I'm not saying that what God created on day two was not good, I'm aware that v31 states that 'God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.' (NIV). But the question interests me.

Thanks.

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It seems there is quite a lot going on in Gen 1 and God doesn't say each thing is good. He says it first of the light, then the dry land, then grass and trees bearing seed.

I bet there is a sequence which makes sense, once you see it.

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dorcas wrote:

It seems there is quite a lot going on in Gen 1 and God doesn't say each thing is good. He says it first of the light, then the dry land, then grass and trees bearing seed.

I bet there is a sequence which makes sense, once you see it.

Thanks for the response.

I think I might not have been very clear first time round. What I mean is, at some point during each day of creation, in the Bible, within the verses of each day, there is a phrase that says, 'God saw that it was good'.

I don't mean why didn't God say some things were good, but more is there a reason why on every day except the second day, God says that something created within that day was good.

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TrueWitness May 5, 2007

Ephesians 2:2

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air , the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience

Here, Satan is called the prince of the power of the air.

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richardf wrote:
In Genesis 1, every day of creation has the verse 'God saw that it was good' (NIV) or a variation of that. But the second day, when God created the sky, is the only day that this phrase is not written.

Is there a reason for this? I'm not saying that what God created on day two was not good, I'm aware that v31 states that 'God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.' (NIV). But the question interests me.

Thanks.

WOW! Must have read it hundreds of times, but never actually noticed that "God saw that it was good" doesn't appear re the second day!

Yes there must be a reason!

Just re-read that part:
[i][color=000066]6 Then God said, “Let there be a dome (KJV "firmament") in the middle of the waters, to separate one body of water from the other.” And so it happened:[/color][/i]

Mmmmm The "firmament" separates what was above from what was below... In a sense separates heaven from earth?

Is that why it wasn't declared "good"???

Maybe God made that separation, in the same sense as in the Temple, the Holy of holies was separated from the rest? Maybe this separation was only meant to be for a season until Adam had "come of age" as it were, and had resisted temptation by not eating the fruit (although of course the FIRST Adam failed the test)...

Man was intended to be free of heaven and earth, a true son of God walking with Him. Heaven and earth were never meant to be permanently separated, so that situation could not be called "good".

The other separation in Genesis, separating light from darkness, WAS "good", they are never to be joined. Light can have no fellowship with darkness - even in a figure, or in the physical!

But the reuniting of heaven and earth is so scriptural...

Hosea 2:
[i][color=000066]23 On that day I will respond, says the LORD;
I will respond to the heavens,
and they shall respond to the earth;
24 The earth shall respond to the grain, and wine, and oil,
and these shall respond to Jezreel.
25 I will sow him for myself in the land,
and I will have pity on Lo-ruhama.
I will say to Lo-ammi, “You are my people,”
and he shall say, “My God!”[/color][/i]

There shall again be dialogue between heaven and earth!

And what happened when Jesus died? The Veil of the Temple (a great thick, high, heavy curtain) was torn from top to bottom!

The Epistle to the Hebrews takes this theme up: {6:19-20; 9:12 and 10:19-21}

And of course Revelation, where John is first invited into heaven, then the Bride is seen coming down from heaven.

This is all so wonderful and exciting. New adventure in the Word! Things that never occured to me until pondering this!


...Which brings another question. Why were the "waters above the firmament" let down onto the earth in Noah's Flood?

Was that another reason they weren't "good", because the Lord knew that they would one day have to be used to destroy Creation.

Was the fact that there was no more physical separation of the two sets of waters, a preview of the Day when the spiritual separation shall be ended????

In a sense the world after the Flood was indeed a "new heavens and a new earth".

But still not "good"

???

Thank you for asking that question! Hope these thoughts are helpful. Not sure I fully understand what the Lord is saying, but definitely food for thought and meditating on...


Blessings in Him


jeannette

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letsgetbusy May 7, 2007

The only reason I could think of that God would leave that phrase out from Day 2 is to foreshadow, like someone else said, the heaven around the earth as the future dwelling place of Satan, "the prince of the power of the air." He will cause storms, winds,(Jesus rebuked the storm)etc.

I wouldn't stamp that as fact, but that would be my guess.

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letsgetbusy wrote:
The only reason I could think of that God would leave that phrase out from Day 2 is to foreshadow, like someone else said, the heaven around the earth as the future dwelling place of Satan, "the prince of the power of the air." He will cause storms, winds,(Jesus rebuked the storm)etc.

I wouldn't stamp that as fact, but that would be my guess.

Yes, that makes sense too. It WAS good when God made it, but was still, as it were, a pathway for Satan to slip in.

Not that he needed a physical entrance way but symbolically that's what it represented maybe?

So it was good, because everything God makes is good, yet in another sense it wasn't good!

It also represented the possibility of choice - as did the two trees in Eden. Even God can't compel us to respond with love to His Love, or it wouldn't be love, but compulsion. So a way was left for Satan to enter the Garden and for man to choose to listen to him and rebel against God.


In Him

Jeannette

J
JaySaved May 7, 2007

God did say it was good.

Look in Genesis 1:31, "And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day."

God rested on the seventh day. Before He rested, He looked over all of this creation on days 1-6 and said that it was all very good.

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Hi Jay, thanks for the post. I do understand that, see my original post:


Is there a reason for this? I'm not saying that what God created on day two was not good, I'm aware that v31 states that 'God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.' (NIV). But the question interests me.

I was just wondering if there was any significance in the Bible not saying, 'And God saw that it was good' at any point on the second day. I do fully understand that God said his whole creation was good in v31. But seriously, thanks for the check-up!

J
Josiah777 May 7, 2007

Richard,

I think stepping back and looking at the big picture helps to understand the smaller questions that arise, like the one you posed. Day 1 is actual history but it is also history that tells a salvation story, that is, it has a spiritual lesson contained within it. Paul explained the spiritual message of Day 1 in 2 Corinthians 4:6, when he likened the light to the glory of the Lord Jesus shining into our hearts for salvation. We know Day 7 is also a picture of entering into God's rest (Heb. 4:3-10). If Day 1 is a picture and Day 7 is a picture of the Christian experience, then doesn't it follow that Days 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 are also pictures? I believe it does, and the way the seven days of creation progress also tells a spiritual story in the life of every Christian as God is renovating them from a shapeless, void of darkness into a paradise where He can dwell and call it "very good".

I've considered what has been mentioned about Day 2 that God didn't call it good because the heavens were still the abode of Satan and his fallen angels. That certainly could be a legitimate reason why. Both Day 1 and Day 2 are pictures of separation. Day 1 separates light (good) from darkness (evil); Day 2 separates basically heavenly from earthly. Day 2 seems to picture circumcision, separating the flesh (earthly) from the spirit (heavenly) (like Phil. 3:3-7).

Day 3 is the usual picture of resurrection. My thoughts on the absence of God calling Day 2 good is not that separation of earthly and heavenly wasn't good, but that Day 2 and Day 3 together are good. Day 2 (circumcision) all by itself is not good unless it is joined together with Day 3 (resurrection). The spiritual circumcision has its value from spiritual resurrection, when the life of Jesus (green grass, herbs, etc.) begins to manifest itself in our lives.

Anyway, it's a real blessing to wait upon God's Holy Spirit to show you Christ in the Bible. May God enable you to see the risen Lord more clearly and you be changed into that same likeness!

In Him,

Ken

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Josiah777 wrote:

I think stepping back and looking at the big picture helps to understand the smaller questions that arise, like the one you posed. Day 1 is actual history but it is also history that tells a salvation story, that is, it has a spiritual lesson contained within it. Paul explained the spiritual message of Day 1 in 2 Corinthians 4:6, when he likened the light to the glory of the Lord Jesus shining into our hearts for salvation. We know Day 7 is also a picture of entering into God's rest (Heb. 4:3-10). If Day 1 is a picture and Day 7 is a picture of the Christian experience, then doesn't it follow that Days 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 are also pictures? I believe it does, and the way the seven days of creation progress also tells a spiritual story in the life of every Christian as God is renovating them from a shapeless, void of darkness into a paradise where He can dwell and call it "very good".

Amen

J
JaySaved May 7, 2007

Is there a reason for this? I'm not saying that what God created on day two was not good, I'm aware that v31 states that 'God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.' (NIV).

I need to learn to read! :lol:

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Tell y'all what blows my mind... and this should really tell us something about the "awesome-ness" of God... He looked at all He created and said it was "good".

We look at all He created and we marvel at it... look at DNA. We cant even begin to comprehend DNA. How God created all the animals, trees, oxygen, planets, stars, the human body... we cant even come close to fathoming His creation.

... and He said it was "good". LOL ... just "good".

Breyers mint chocolate chip ice cream is "good". Words can not even begin to describe creation...

Either God is very humble, or He is extremely hard to impress. No wonder He says we are saved by faith, and not works, lest any man should boast. Who are we to boast before God of anything?

His mind is truly way above ours, dont you think?

Krispy

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PreachParsly May 7, 2007

Either God is very humble

Psa 113:5\tWho [is] like unto the LORD our God, who dwelleth on high,

Psa 113:6\t[b]Who humbleth [himself] to behold [the things that are] in heaven, and in the earth![/b]

:-D


Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name [is] Holy; I dwell in the high and holy [place], with him also [that is] of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

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Tell y'all what blows my mind... and this should really tell us something about the "awesome-ness" of God... He looked at all He created and said it was "good".

We look at all He created and we marvel at it... look at DNA. We cant even begin to comprehend DNA. How God created all the animals, trees, oxygen, planets, stars, the human body... we cant even come close to fathoming His creation.

... and He said it was "good". LOL ... just "good".

Breyers mint chocolate chip ice cream is "good". Words can not even begin to describe creation...

Very true. Although I must say, 'good' is such a good word, don't you think?! It sums things up pretty nicely.


Either God is very humble, or He is extremely hard to impress. No wonder He says we are saved by faith, and not works, lest any man should boast. Who are we to boast before God of anything?

Fools! Although I'm guessing that was a rhetorical question?! We require materials to make things, people build big huge buildings and boast about how great it is. Well, you didn't make the materials to make the building, did you?

And yet God says a couple of words, and light just comes out of nowhere. God says 'I AM'. And it's so true. He just IS. Needs nothing to live, needs nothing to make. In fact, He doesn't actually 'make' things does He? He 'creates' things.

I'm baffled by God. And what a great feeling it is! Praise Him!

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Josiah777 wrote:
Richard,

I think stepping back and looking at the big picture helps to understand the smaller questions that arise, like the one you posed. Day 1 is actual history but it is also history that tells a salvation story, that is, it has a spiritual lesson contained within it. Paul explained the spiritual message of Day 1 in 2 Corinthians 4:6, when he likened the light to the glory of the Lord Jesus shining into our hearts for salvation. We know Day 7 is also a picture of entering into God's rest (Heb. 4:3-10). If Day 1 is a picture and Day 7 is a picture of the Christian experience, then doesn't it follow that Days 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 are also pictures? I believe it does, and the way the seven days of creation progress also tells a spiritual story in the life of every Christian as God is renovating them from a shapeless, void of darkness into a paradise where He can dwell and call it "very good".

I've considered what has been mentioned about Day 2 that God didn't call it good because the heavens were still the abode of Satan and his fallen angels. That certainly could be a legitimate reason why. Both Day 1 and Day 2 are pictures of separation. Day 1 separates light (good) from darkness (evil); Day 2 separates basically heavenly from earthly. Day 2 seems to picture circumcision, separating the flesh (earthly) from the spirit (heavenly) (like Phil. 3:3-7).

Day 3 is the usual picture of resurrection. My thoughts on the absence of God calling Day 2 good is not that separation of earthly and heavenly wasn't good, but that Day 2 and Day 3 together are good. Day 2 (circumcision) all by itself is not good unless it is joined together with Day 3 (resurrection). The spiritual circumcision has its value from spiritual resurrection, when the life of Jesus (green grass, herbs, etc.) begins to manifest itself in our lives.

Anyway, it's a real blessing to wait upon God's Holy Spirit to show you Christ in the Bible. May God enable you to see the risen Lord more clearly and you be changed into that same likeness!

In Him,

Ken

Mmmm, thanks Ken, points to ponder... - really puts things in a different perspective. Especially " [i][b]Day 2 and Day 3 together are good. Day 2 (circumcision) all by itself is not good unless it is joined together with Day 3 (resurrection).[/b][/i]"

Re circumcision: (hope I don't embarress myself or anyone else!): Apparently it makes viruses such as AIDS harder to catch if a man has been circumcised. It seems there are cells in the foreskin that actively take up such viruses (in an attempt to destroy them probably, but with AIDS it works the other way because the virus attacks the immune system that is trying to attack it). Circumcision therefore helps protect from disease - even in the natural.

Surely there's a spiritual parallel here!


Blessings


Jeannette

sermonindex May 7, 2007

Day 1 is actual history but it is also history that tells a salvation story, that is, it has a spiritual lesson contained within it. Paul explained the spiritual message of Day 1 in 2 Corinthians 4:6, when he likened the light to the glory of the Lord Jesus shining into our hearts for salvation. We know Day 7 is also a picture of entering into God's rest (Heb. 4:3-10). If Day 1 is a picture and Day 7 is a picture of the Christian experience, then doesn't it follow that Days 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 are also pictures? I believe it does, and the way the seven days of creation progress also tells a spiritual story in the life of every Christian as God is renovating them from a shapeless, void of darkness into a paradise where He can dwell and call it "very good".
WOW!!! This part has only just begun to sink in!!!

Thanks Ken

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KrispyKrittr wrote:
Tell y'all what blows my mind... and this should really tell us something about the "awesome-ness" of God... He looked at all He created and said it was "good".

We look at all He created and we marvel at it... look at DNA. We cant even begin to comprehend DNA. How God created all the animals, trees, oxygen, planets, stars, the human body... we cant even come close to fathoming His creation.

... and He said it was "good". LOL ... just "good".

Breyers mint chocolate chip ice cream is "good". Words can not even begin to describe creation...

Either God is very humble, or He is extremely hard to impress. No wonder He says we are saved by faith, and not works, lest any man should boast. Who are we to boast before God of anything?

His mind is truly way above ours, dont you think?

Krispy

The more they study DNA the more complex the picture is. Yet its simple too, and everything has its part to play.

They originally talked about "junk DNA" because they didn't know what a lot of it is for!

HOW [i][u]DARE[/u][/i] THEY CALL GOD'S AMAZING CREATION "JUNK"!!!!

Excuse that little rant but it really makes me mad!

Jeannette

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richardf wrote:

Either God is very humble, or He is extremely hard to impress. No wonder He says we are saved by faith, and not works, lest any man should boast. Who are we to boast before God of anything?

Fools! Although I'm guessing that was a rhetorical question?! We require materials to make things, people build big huge buildings and boast about how great it is. Well, you didn't make the materials to make the building, did you?

And yet God says a couple of words, and light just comes out of nowhere. God says 'I AM'. And it's so true. He just IS. Needs nothing to live, needs nothing to make. In fact, He doesn't actually 'make' things does He? He 'creates' things.

I'm baffled by God. And what a great feeling it is! Praise Him!

AMEN! :lol: :lol: :lol: :-D :-D :-D :knockedout:


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beenblake May 8, 2007

Please note:

God did not [color=CC0000]say[/color] it was good, God [color=009900]saw[/color] that it was good.

This is a tremendous difference that must be addressed as Jesus said in Luke 18:19, "No one is good--except God alone."

God did not say, "It is good," rather God saw that it was good meaning that what God saw was pleasing to His eyes. When God created, He had a particular desire in mind. When He finished and that desire was met and so God saw that it was good. The thing He had created was pleasing in His eyes because it was exactly how God wanted it. As such, we could say that it fulfilled God's will.

*edit*

In love,
Blake

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