randomly came across this thread. Posted a few thoughts, which I guess is a bit long, a truth ful feedback can help me share things that can be more edifying.
had a look at the comments and I guess there were two areas that were being covered here.
- Reasons that does not make you a Christians
- Reasons for coming to Christ
Well I get a feel that the thread was started for the first reason, however somewhere in between we overlapped with second one. (I may be wrong)
It is true that many who choose the wrong reason for coming to Christ does not meet with Christ i.e. does not become Christians, though they might think they have.
However at the same time I belive that not all seek Christ and find HIM in noble pursuit of HIM or the truth.
For HE found us when we were haters of God.
He found us/We sought HIM when we were in a mess and often as the last refuge.
The sick and the demon possed sought after Christ to be healed, not to gain Christ. And yet in HIS love, HE met our need that was rooted in 'I'.
Yes we came with our selfish agenda, but HE did for us more than we thought could possibly happen, more than we asked, even though we cared not for HIM and dint know what it took for HIM to give us what HE gave us. And that giving includes that new desire that He plants in us, that cries out dear Lord help me to love YOU, to seek You for nothing else but YOU.
Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
Thinking one is onverted when one is not or hoping to get converted for the wrong reason are maybe just a step behind once upon a time genuinely converted. Of what use if today I know HIM not. Today I do not seek to spend time with HIM hidden than with anyone else or anything else. To spend time is to listen to what HE has to say, to value HIS word and to meditate on it and on how HE is and HIS example, and to speak back honestly of where we stand and where we would want to be. And when all other things or persons become an intrusion to be patiently dealt with in love.
This is what it means to be truly Christs.
Not how we started, but how we end up.
Not to forget the right theology, not to forget right doctrine, but to end in one exhortation, to spend more and more of our lives (not just time) with HIM. To be able to say, " I KNOW HIM, who has called me ..."
If this is not where we are heading then wahtever one says, are just "false reasons people give for being a Christian."