The cross in china
i just watched this documentary....what can i say?
i almost feel ashamed for living as 'good' as i do. But glory to God for what he does in china!
And what an inspiration those people are to me, maybe one day i will be worthy to of such suffering for our Lord.
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The cross in china
i just watched this documentary
Is this a Voice of the Martyrs resource??
you need real player to watch it, four parts, i just watched part two.
[url=http://www.chinasoul.org/e/e-va.htm]Cross in china
edit - I'm downloading it,
Thanks
yes these are great videos!!!
I saw then like 2 years ago.
It really helped us pray for China
It is so neat what God is doing there. When I went 2 years ago it was amazing thing.
In his love
charlene
This is an execellent video. We watched it as a fellowship just last week, all four sections. There are great things to glean out of that movie.
China has had a real apostolic body for decades.
In section 3 of the movie, it seems that prosperity and comfort seems to be sneaking it just abit, but they still have not compromised to the point of losing power, but their message seems to lack a bit.
Anyways tell me waht you guys think about that section, all the other ones are amazing though!
The world is seeping into the church in China. There are still very strong believers there, but many young believers (college age) feel the pull of the world and unsaved parents very strongly.
Unsaved parents want their children to get a good education so that they can get a good job so that the children can support the parents.
The Christian children, in the meantime, want a nice job to get a nice house and a car and the other things that money brings.
Praise God for ministries to and in China to help the leaders train the believers, and praise God for those young believers, who fighting against everything around them, want to grow in Christ and make Him known.
Yes, this is an excellent video. To see the tears run down their faces as they engage God in the Spirit in song and prayer is inspiring! This is definitely one of my highest thought of films.
i'll have to download it when i'm next at my Grandma's house- she has high-speed internet. 8-)Wait! i thought it was the younger generation that should have all the cool stuff like blazing fast web browsing... ???!!!?? :-? :-P
We just have dialup, or through my cell phone (3x faster than dialup)
;-)
-nate
The world is seeping into the church in China. There are still very strong believers there, but many young believers (college age) feel the pull of the world and unsaved parents very strongly.Unsaved parents want their children to get a good education so that they can get a good job so that the children can support the parents.
The Christian children, in the meantime, want a nice job to get a nice house and a car and the other things that money brings.
This is the most heart breaking thing that I have heard recently...
So sad...
Praise God for ministries to and in China to help the leaders train the believers, and praise God for those young believers, who fighting against everything around them, want to grow in Christ and make Him known.
Yes, brother.
Just a note, but the Cross in China documentary by Voice of the Martyrs, while very good in many things, does point a rather rosy picture. This video does not talk about how there is a lot of false teaching (even by American standards!) making it's way through the church in China. Of course, only a naive person would think otherwise. However, from my understanding of things, it is far from small problem. I even recall one brother being horrified that one particular person making it onto this video, as many church leaders in China consider this one particular minister as false.
However, even besides the one sidedness of the video, it is still very inspiring. I've personally bought copies for friends & family.
This video does not talk about how there is a lot of false teaching (even by American standards!) making it's way through the church in China.
I truly believe that this is caused by a lack of the written word of God! We truly are privileged to have the Bible in our language, and as much of it as we do. I'm sure that the Christians that are there would do a much better job of handling the Word than most preachers here do, if they had it.
I watched the first two movies and what a great testimonies, Glory to God!
This video does not talk about how there is a lot of false teaching (even by American standards!) making it's way through the church in China.
Some months ago a sponsored link at the top of my google search caught my attention. I clicked it and began reading about "true believers" with "true faith". I read about that the bible was outdated and new revelation had come. The old testament era of law was over, the new testament era of grace was over and the era of judgement and Christs kingdom had come. Jesus Christ had returned as a woman and SHE was in China, judging oldfashioned grace and justification by faith believers who do not worship the female christ (or almighty god as they call her). I was shocked what i was reading.. People who believe the bible where warned and condemned and told that if they didn't repent and believe that the time of grace was over and that almighty god had returned and judgement had begun, that they will recieve severe punnishment with sickness death and hell. Exmples were given of stubborn believers recieving supernatural judgement and wrath because they refused to believe and worship the female christ. It shocked me... I began looking if there was anything more known about this new book of "faith" i was reading and the people behind it.
I came across a site where was explained that this was a chinese cult with an estimated 1 million+ members. They call themselves "The Church of Almighty God" they are also known as "The Eastern Lighting Cult".
This is one of the most dangerous destructive and prevailant cults in China at the moment. They espacially target at leaders and on fire christians who visibly love the Lord. The cultmembers infiltrate housechurches and destroy them inside out. They participate in the church for a time and check out the weaknesses and the people who love the Lord the most, then they will manipulate, blackmail, drug, seduce, brainwash and fear christians into their cult. They use any means possible to create converts and their only targets are christians. They do not "evangelize" under unbelievers because they say heavens doors are already shut and only those who already believe in God can be saved.
I also read that it is spreading to the west. There are members in the USA and this is where they host their website, altough I can't find their website anymore.
Here is shown how they go to work:[url=http://www.chinaforjesus.com/EL_5.htm]The Characteristics of the Eastern Lightning Cult at Its Different Stages (SHOCKING!)
[b]We need to pray for the christians in China that they will stand firm against the satanic attacks and lies.
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