"Meth" the name of a demon.

I'm going to paste up an online episode of the PBS documentary series "Frontline", this episode is called "The Meth Epidemic"

[url=http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/view/]"The Meth Epidemic"---Frontline[/url]

You can view the whole episode online (as well as 66 other online episodes)preferably you should have a broadband internet connection.

As I was watching this terrible plague, and praying whilst I watched, it was so reminiscent of the Garadene demoniac "legion" that Jesus encountered, he was naked, cut up, living in caves, continually used his demonic strength to break the chains he was bound with, Lord only knows what terror he must have caused in that region. Jesus steps in, cast these demons out who begged not to be sent into the abyss, so the Lord send them into the lake, you all know the story. I said that to say this. One of the fine brave Oregonian law enforcement officials, who had seen people arrested over and over again for meth, physically saw the changes in their faces, so he began to collect pictures of the ravages of this demon over the years in these poor souls lives, and I'm telling you all, their faces look like one of those awful movies where people get possessed.

The statistics are astounding, as far as the percentage of property theft related to meth, children sent to foster care because of meth, the things these children have to witness, or to be subjected to because of meth, AND there only 9 factories worldwide that produce pseusdoephedrine, the primary stool this demon feeds off of......and now, the mexican mafia has stepped in, recognizing a center of profit potential.

So, this is a prayer point, AND an action point. Pray in the Name of Jesus against this foul demon, and where the Lord guides you be light, consider being a foster parent, if you know a meth addict, pray for and over them, be wise, be prayed up, because they got a demon in them, this is demon is much much different than alcohol, or even coke. If you know of a lab, or a cooker, or a seller, dont even hestitate nor fear, get on the phone and call law enforcement. Meth cooker's like rural areas, many of you live in rural areas, you can SMELL a meth lab a mile away. I'm not saying take the law into your own hands, tempting as that may be, when you live in the country and everybody knows who's who and what's what but as Christians we have to do things decently and in order.

anyway, just a situation to pray and ponder over.

if you know a meth addict, pray for and over them, be wise, be prayed up, because they got a demon in them, this is demon is much much different than alcohol, or even coke.

thanks worm (still waiting for a name brother or sister!). This is very serious, when I started witnessing in the suburbs I could walk up to someone and ask them if they consider themselves to be a good person and hand them a way of the master tract... once I got to the inner city I realized that my little tracts and "good person test" were about as useful as a bucket of cold water at a five alarm fire.

I do believe that God will continue to do a work in the most possessed and hopelessly bound of society as the good church folks continue to jump into apostasy. These people need the power and the reality of the kingdom of God to touch there lives.

In Christ - Jim

agreed. The deliverance ministry, but the deliverance ministry is more than words, I'm sure you know that.

It's about stepping outside your comfort zone, being prayed up, it's about getting your hands dirty, I know you know that. I'm drawing my crosshairs on that demon named "meth". IF we are the Body of Christ, it is His Hands we use and His Heart we love with, and thru the Holy Ghost we utilize as our Power and Comforter when the going gets rough.

that's what I'm testifying.

There but for the grace of God go I.

and I'm the father of a pre-teen boy, saved as he is, I pray that Jesus protect him from such demons, and I'm going stay close to him, talk to him real, show him the reality behind the reality, that this might be a crystal rock, but it's really a demon with no other desire than to kill steal and destroy his loving soul and beautiful mind, that God gave him to affect change in this wicked world.

I've told him this quite clear...not regarding meth, but in general: the decision is yours; you can be a son of the Light, or a son of the darkness, the choice is yours. He nodded, coz he knows whats at stake. We got to protect our young ones, not tyrannically, or stifling, but with words of Power, wise and loving and gentle as led by the Holy Spirit.

The devil, the destroyer, is getting more desperate everyday, his end is coming, and he knows it.

sell a cloak, buy a sword.

Lord love you.

Hi Mike,

I know you've said this before,

There is no biblical basis for any of what you have stated.

Mark 5:9
Then [b]He[/b] asked him, [b]"What [i]is[/i] your name?"[/b] And he answered, saying, "My name [i]is[/i] Legion; for we are many."

nor how those with the ministry of casting out demons are either given the name of the demon by the Lord, or, when they ask, being [i][b]in[/i][/b] the name of Jesus, the demon may reply [i]giving its name[/i].

I myself was delivered from a spirit of fear long ago by an elder who was given the discernment to call it that and cast it out.

I had had no idea I was in bondage to such a spirit, but believe me, I was changed by that deliverance.

In the moment of practicality when praying for a person, one has to know who one is hearing, and one must believe the revelation the Spirit is giving, is true. There are other ways to discern what kind of spirit is binding a person.

What worm has shared in the opening post about the photographs, accords with observations I have made in people I've met, who are in other bondages. There is a common appearance.

This is what I believe we Christians should be busy doing, taken from Acts 6v4.

'But we will give ourselves continually to prayer and to the ministry of the word'.

and part of the word, the call, is contained in the 61st chapter of Isaiah:

"The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me,
because the LORD has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,
to proclaim freedom for the captives
and release from darkness for the prisoners."

watch the video, you'll actually see what I'm referencing, that these poor souls are prisoners held in darkness by a demon who's name is meth, and only Christ can break their bonds, and we, as His Body can act as His Hands.

are they the only souls held in darkness? oh no. There are a multitude, a legion of dark beings, strongholds so to speak that hold afflicted lost souls in dark and dank places, and I believe that it is our duty and high and heavenly calling to speak and be light in dark places, only thru the Provisions granted thru Christ Jesus.

To me, if you speak hellfire to these lost souls, they'd say, "so what, I'm already in hell, tell me something I don't know". So one lets the Holy Spirit do the speaking thru you, tell of the Good News, speak of the Light and Love of Jesus, of laying down in green pastures, speak of a Heavenly Jerusalem, speak of the Kingdom of God AT HAND, and maybe thru the tender mercies of God, the heart you speak to will be yielded and open.

But first, the demon has to be cast out.

just random thoughts.

May God bless you.

Tears_of_joy asked dorcas

May I ask you, when did that happen? Before or after you was born of the Spirit? And do you mean by "spirit of fear" a demon?

Secondly, I have looked in the New Testament several times for any alternative definition of demon, evil spirit and unclean spirit, which would accommodate the idea that there is some significant difference between them, and I believe I've found the Greek word is the same, and it is the writer who has introduced the adjective or noun, as if this is significant for us to understand. I have never found the word 'dispositon' with regard to an [i]attitude[/i] or [i]behaviour[/i] (understanding even behaviours have something to do with how one thinks), in scripture. Just like I've never found the word 'loyal' in scripture.

So, yes, I believe I was born again and yes I believe that spirit of fear was 'a spirit'.

I have come to believe there is a hierarchy of spirits, from my reading of the experiences of some missionaries, who also describe terratorial spirits. I lived in Africa as a child and know this is acknowledged by those who worship those spirits.

There is no difficulty (to my mind) in a territorial spirit being bound by a jurisdiction such as a country boundary, whether it cuts across a mountain, runs down a river or a street as described. There are spirits confined to homes, or individual rooms in houses.

As Annie has said, His word in His name is enough to move them. Of course, sometimes there are many spirits in one room. This, of course, is what Jesus said when He described a life as a 'house'.

Enid,

An unemplyed spirit roams around looking for somewhere to live. All spirits are looking for a residence of some sort. Jesus told us this.

To add to what I remarked above, it is the woundedness of people's lives which lay them open to spirits as much as their actively chosen personal sins.

This is why Jesus was so desirous to heal and to cast out spirits. He knew they would not be open to spirits if they were healed AND they turned away from sin.

I think we see from Legion's story, that no-one is unable to RUN to Jesus, no matter how tormented they are by spirits. (Mark 5) And, no-one can blame their sinning on the power of a spirit in their life. Whichever they need first - deliverance or healing - Jesus can do it if they will turn to Him. This is another battle of mind and will which is on the comer's side, no-one else's, in certain cases.

John said 'fear hath torment' and many spirits are very afraid of being cast out. Often, this is the emotion of which a person struggling with a spirit is most aware. Understanding this can make it much easier for them to see Jesus as a comapssionate Deliverer.

Re: Proving by proof text

Hi Mike,

'Jesus Himself'.

The whole of John 17 is relevant.

18 "As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
19 "And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
20 " I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word;
21 "that they all may be one, as [u]You, Father, [i]are[/i] in Me, and I in You; [b]that they also may[/b] be one in Us[/u], that the world may believe that You sent Me.

23 "[u]I in them, and You in Me[/u]; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

One day, Mike, I believe you will be free of this battle, enough to KNOW in this realm, what He is giving you to minister as He leads you.

I have rarely [i]tried[/i] to 'cast out' a spirit or a demon in that direct way 'in the name of Jesus', but I have, and, I've prayed with or for [people] in His name, and spoken the word He gives me at that time. The Spirit or that other person comfirms this is the word of God to them, as respond to it. (Response may be negative.) Or, I have exercised faith when speaking into their lives because they have been open to His word, as they engaged in meaningful communication at heart level.

To some extent, one's ministry is limited to one's testimony, and so the challenge from God is personal - for [i]me[/i] to move on - before I can lead another person further. He seems to weave His work in my own life, with that of His work in others'. Surely this is a natural part of being His body reaching out to the world, and nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed by.

It proves one experience that cannot be then made into a doctrine of assumption that I would then go about using as a buttress that is not spoken of in scripture.

When the scripture describes a person's behaviour like the child being thrown into fire or water, that is the appearance of something abnormal. With those people who were deaf and dumb, that is the evidence of something abnormal. [i]Discernment[/i] comes from God, that the [i]cause[/i] in these cases, is[i]spiritual[/i], not (what we would call) physical.

This is where hearing His word by the Spirit in one's understanding brings one to the point of exercising faith. Had He not spoken, then there is no revelation to respond to. Any action in response to an mere observation is carnal, risky and to be discouraged. There may be, though, a stage when one has an answer, but it is not time to deliver it. Getting the timing right, has something to do with walking in the Spirit patiently.

The faith to respond to a revelation comes with the revelation, in a similar way that true conviction of sin is accompanied by a repentant attitude and the hope of salvation. These are works of the Spirit, not man.

You have your experience and I have mine. Praise God for deliverance but moreover praise God for the Deliverer.

I am clinging to the scriptures for dear life

Would it not have been crazy if Peter and John hadn't noticed the reason the man at the gate Beautiful was begging, was because he couldn't walk? It wasn't an [u]undue[/u] [i]presumption[/i] on Peter's part, that 'Rise up and walk' healed his legs.

I do feel that perhaps these practicalities are more obvious than we realise when we're merely reading. And Jesus' example of asking the blind man what he wanted Jesus to do for him, or the same to a leper, are examples to us not to assume we know what is in the person's heart.

But, knowing the answer to those questions, the Deliverer can give us the words to pray which will bring the needed release.