Help with Greek word study tools

Hi everyone

I'm looking for a book where you can look up Greek words (for example from an Interlinear Bible), where it will tell you not only the meaning of the word but the tense/case etc of that particular form of the word.

I used to have one, a very ancient volume found in a second-hand shop. But I left it behind in a move, and can't get it back now. I also can't remember the title or author, and its almost certainly out of print.

I did study Greek a bit, (in the late 1970's)and can sometimes recognise a tense of a verb, for example (aorist and perfect are easiest) but that's about all.

Someone said that Zodhiates was good, but which book, if any, would do that? He seems to have written a number of Greek study books, but you can't see the contents online to know which is the right one.

It would be quite useful to have the Hebrew as well, but I already have Wilson's Old Testament Word Studies, and the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament. And with the Greek I specifically want to to know which tense etc a particular word is.

[edit, added]* For example, I found out that when Paul writes, "You are washed, you are sanctified, you are justified..." it actually means, "You have washed [i]yourselves[/i], you [i]were[/i] justified, you [i]were[/i] sanctified..." (ie by someone else - aorist I think, meaning something that was completed in the past.)

And when Jesus said on the cross, "It is finished!" it's the perfect tense, which means (as far as I understand it) something done in the past, yet ongoing in effect - "It has been accomplished!"[edit*]

Thanks

Jeannette

Hi LittleGift.

The third post on this link may answer -

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=6819&forum=36&start=10&viewmode=flat&order=0

I would recommend The New Linguistic and Exegetical key to the Greek New Testament by Cleon Rogers.

jarona wrote:
I'm not sure if you've ever had a Strong's Concordance but I really love being able to use one. You can look up any word in the KJV bible and then you can go to the Hebrew or Greek word and see the meaning of the original words in Greek and Hebrew. I think it is a great tool to seeing what the Word actually meant and means in Greek and Hebrew. God bless, Jaron

in Him

Jeannette

JaySaved wrote:
I would recommend [url=http://www.amazon.com/New-Linguistic-Exegetical-Greek-Testament/dp/0310201756/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-9906651-7724115?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184118404&sr=8-1]The New Linguistic and Exegetical key to the Greek New Testament[/url] by Cleon Rogers.

I have enjoyed it.

However, I would prefer if possible to have a slightly simpler book (like the one I used to have) where it was possible to look up the Greek word itself, but without going into so much detail on meanings of the words (which I already have)

For example, Strongs says that the verb "believe" in John 2:23, "Many believed in his name..." is [i][b][color=000066]pisteuw[/color][/b][/i] (can't do the Greek font here)

But the actual word in this verse is [i][b][color=000066]episteusan[/color][/b][/i]. I would guess that this is aorist active 3rd person plural, but perhaps it's a participle instead - I'm not sure. the initial "e" is strange, can't remember what that is (left my other study books behind too - thought I was going back abroad but didn't!) So it would be great to have a book where you can look up [i][b][color=000066]episteusan[/color][/b][/i] and it would tell you.

Maybe I'm being fussy but it would be so helpful.

Haven't checked out the online sources yet.

Thanks

Jeannette

roadsign wrote:
Thought for the day :-) :

... what I learn slowly I forget slowly, but what I learn quickly I forget quickly!

Diane

philologos wrote:
The Blue Letter Bible will take some beating for ease of access. Try this little exercise...

1. go to the [url=http://www.blueletterbible.org/]Blue Letter Bible[/url] website
2. Enter John 3:16 in the vacant window, making sure that you have KJV as your default Bible.
3.at the next screen hit the 'C' button by the side of John 3:16
4.You now have the verse in Greek and a breakdown of the words used.
5.You can identify the verb tenses from this screen.
6. Click on the Strongs number for 'believeth' and it will give you a brief dictionary definition and every use of that word in the NT.
7.Now you can create your own 'dictionary' as you see how the scriptures use the word. Create a definition and see if you can apply it to each use of the original word. If it doesn't quite fit 'tweak' it until it does. Where there are several uses of the word this is the safest way to create a defintion. However, some words are used infrequently and then the next step will prove invaluable.
8. Can you see the word 'Vines' about 2 inches down the page? This will take you to Vines Expository Dictionary of New Testament words. This will give you a solid definition of the word and show you its cognates.

When you have caught your rabbit, cook it! (Prov 12:27) ie use the discovery in prayer or preaching or testmony. This will help to fix the sense in your memory. Good hunting!

I'm not sure if Vines is quite what I'm looking for though - I used to have a Vine's, But my Vine's went more into details of word [i]meanings, not the tenses etc[/i]. So it might not be exactly what I wanted. Maybe Jay's recommendation might be best after all...

Anyway, will check it out.

Blessings

Jeannette

philologos wrote:

I used to have one, a very ancient volume found in a second-hand shop. But I left it behind in a move, and can't get it back now. I also can't remember the title or author, and its almost certainly out of print.

It just occured to me, thinking about your uk address, that you might be referring to..

Bagsters Analytical Greek Lexicon

It was a blue squarish book; they occasionally come up on ebay.co.uk

If you want an online version the [url=http://www.zhubert.com/bible?source=greek&verseref=Jn+3%3A16-21]Resurgence Greek Project[/url] referred to by Preach Parsley is very useful, although it is not based on the Byzantine textform. I think you have to be logged in to make all the connections work.

A hovering cursor will show you the parsing details but a double click will take you into a wonderland which includes links to Liddell and Scott. (Did you know that Liddell's daughter was the actual Alice of Alice in Wonderland? Sheer trivia!!)