Excellent word, bro Paul!
Let me add to what you said here:
These teachers say that if you feel sick, don't confess it. If you're financially strapped, don't confess it.
Oh man, this was hammered into my head. You know what this really is? [b]Superstition.[/b] Nothing more. Paul never once indicated (or any other scripture writer) that we should not be realistic about our state in this life! The following scriptures go completely against this WOF heresy:
[b]2Co 8:1-2[/b] [i]Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia; How that in a [b]great trial of affliction[/b] the abundance of their joy and [b]their deep poverty[/b] abounded unto the riches of their liberality.[/i]
[b]Rev 2:9[/b] [i]I know thy works, [b]and tribulation, and poverty[/b], (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.[/i]
[b]Rom 15:26[/b] [i]For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the [b]poor saints[/b] which are at Jerusalem.[/i]
[b]Jam 2:5[/b] [i]Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen [b]the poor of this world[/b] rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?[/i]
[b]Jam 5:14-15[/b] [i]Is any [b]sick[/b] among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord...[/i]
(Notice it doesnt say "deny your sick and claim your healing!" It says have the elders of the church pray over you!)
[b]2Co 11:25-28[/b] [i]Thrice was I [b]beaten with rods[/b], once was I [b]stoned[/b], thrice I [b]suffered shipwreck[/b], a night and a day I have been [b]in the deep[/b]; In journeyings often, in [b][color=0000FF]perils[/color][/b] of waters, in [b][color=0000FF]perils[/color][/b] of robbers, in [b][color=0000FF]perils[/color][/b] by mine own countrymen, in [b][color=0000FF]perils[/color][/b] by the heathen, in [b][color=0000FF]perils[/color][/b] in the city, in [b][color=0000FF]perils[/color][/b] in the wilderness, in [b][color=0000FF]perils[/color][/b] in the sea, in [b][color=0000FF]perils[/color][/b] among false brethren; In [b]weariness and painfulness[/b], in watchings often, in [b]hunger and thirst[/b], in fastings often, in [b]cold and nakedness[/b]. Beside those things that are without, that which [b]cometh upon me DAILY[/b], the care of all the churches.[/i]
Huh?? No mention of Rolex watches? No limo's? No Rolls Royces? Where does Paul mention the seaside manson in Malibu? I know it must be in there somewhere!
And I challenge anyone on this forum to show me where, in the NT, material possesions and earthly gain, and monetary wealth is even once shown as a blessing or something the believer should desire or chase after. In the OT there were instances where God blessed in that manner as a sign of His favor... but that was a different covenant and dispensation. We are under the New Conenant.
WOF crumbles under the weight of those passages. WOF claims promises made to a different people, under a different covenant, in a different dispensation. Is God the same yesterday, today and forever? Absolutely, Amen He is! But His dealings with man [b]have[/b] changed. That's Bible 101. We can not claim the same promises for ourselves! They were not written for us. They were not given to us. Tho WOF denies this, the fact is... WOF is basically a natural progression of "Replacement Theology".
This is exactly what started getting me to thinking that WOF wasnt all it was cracked up to be. The more I read the Bible the more I couldnt justify all the "blab it and grab it" theology that was coming my way via the pulpit.
I remember distinctly the sermon that I heard in that church that really pushed me into "Berean-mode"... the guest preacher said that Jesus was wealthy beyond compare. Jesus was able to quit working as a carpenter and go into full time ministry because of the gold the wise men brought to Him as a gift when He was born. So He and the disciples were living on that gold, which by todays standards was probably several million dollars.
... and a scripture popped into my mind (via the Holy Spirit) which says:
[b]Mat 8:20[/b] [i]And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.[/i]
And that is was the beginning of my journey out of WOF.
Krispy