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George Washington's Vision

sermonindex Jul 17, 2007


[b]GEORGE WASHINGTON`S VISION [/b]

The place was Valley Forge in the winter of 1777, shortly after the signing of the "Declaration of Independence" the American forces (greatly outnumbered) were fighting a against the British (the most powerful nation in the world). Some believe that only 3% of the American people took part in the struggle for independence, and many aided the British cause by giving them housing etc. Prevalent in the hearts and minds of the American people, was apathy, self-interests, uncertainty, and fear. It is well known that George Washington was a man of prayer and great courage as he would ride and lead his own troops into battle.

George Washinton's vision is recorded at the Library of Congress


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THE WORDS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON (THE FATHER OF AMERICA)

"This afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in preparing a dispatch, something seemed to disturb me. Looking up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful female. So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to inquire the cause of her presence. A second, a third and even a fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of her eyes.

"By this time I felt strange sensations spreading through me. I would have risen but the riveted gaze of the being before me rendered volition impossible. I assayed once more to aaddress her, butmy tongue had become useless, as though it had become paralyzed.

"A new influence, mysterious, potent, irresistible, took possession of me. All I could do was to gaze steadily, vacantly at my unknown visitor, Gradually the surrounding atmosphere seemed as if it had become filled with sensations, and luminous. Everything about me seemed to rarify, the mysterious visitor herself becoming more airy and yet more distinct to my sight than before. I now began to feel as one dying, or rather to experience the sensations which I have sometimes imagined accompany dissolution. I did not think, I did not reason, I did not move; all were alike impossible. I was only conscious of gazing fixedly, vacantly at my companion.

"Presently I heard a voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn,' while at the same time my visitor extended her arm eastwardly. I now beheld a heavy white vapor at some distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I looked upon a strange scene. Before me lay spread out in one vast plain all the countries of the world; Europe, Asia, Africa and America. I saw rolling and tossing between Europe and America the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America lay the Pacific.

" `Son of the Republic' said the same mysterious voice as before, `look and learn,' At that moment I beheld a dark, shadowy being, like an angel, standing, or rather floating in mid-air, between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America with his right hand, while with his left hand he cast some on Europe. Immediately a cloud raised from these countries, and joined in mid-ocean. For a while it remained stationary, and then moved slowly westward, until it enveloped America in its murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the American people.

"A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean, and sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back to the ocean, in whose heaving billows it sank from view. A third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn,' I cast my eyes upon America and beheld villages and towns and cities springing up one after another until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted with them.

Again, I heard the mysterious voice say, `Son of the Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn.' At this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from Africa I saw an ill-omened spectre approach our land. It flitted slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As I continued looking I a saw bright angel, on whose brow rested a crown of light, on which was traced the word `Union,' bearing the American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and said, `Remember ye are brethren.' Instantly, the inhabitants, casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and united around the National Standard.

"And again I heard the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn.' At this the dark, shadowy angel placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; and taking water from theocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe,

Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene: from each of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon joined into one. Throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America. Our country was enveloped in this volume of cloud, and I saw these vast armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns and cities that I beheld springing up. As my ears listened to the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts and cries of millions in mortal combat, I heard again the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn.' When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful blast.

"Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose head still shone the word Union, and who bore our national flag in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well nigh overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up their broken ranks and renewed the battle.

"Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict, I heard the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn.' As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious!

"Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of them, cried with o loud voice" `While the stars remain, and the heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union last.' And taking from his brow the crown on which blazoned the word `UNION,' he placed it upon the Standard while the people, kneeling down, said, `Amen.'

"The scene instantly began to fad and dissolve, and I at last saw nothing but the rising, curling vapor I at first beheld. This also disappearing, I found myself once more gazing upon the mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, said, `Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus interpreted: three great perils will come upon the Republic. The most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the Union. With these words the vision vanished, and I started from my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown to me the birth, progress and destiny of the United States."

sermonindex Jul 18, 2007

Brother Greg, I believe you know how much I respect you and this work of God you've been used to produce here, but if I may just give the other perspective of the source of these "visions" that have continued on from basically the same sources.

Two links from a reputable site.

http://www.threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/53

http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm


If in your research of this site, you see what's called "The Plan", this next war is to set up the one world government and it's system and it's heads.


Thank you for allowing dialoge.
Annie

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jordanamo Jul 18, 2007

That is a weird, dubious vision. It appeared in the National Tribune in 1880, George Washington never wrote this. A guy named Anthony Sherman, who claimed to have served under Washington at Valley Forge from 1777-1778, told the story to a reporter (supposedly in 1859-- of course this all hearsay and no evidence confirms it).

For more information/source:
http://www.snopes.com/language/document/vision.asp

BTW, this vision being recorded at the Library of Congress means nothing of its authenticity. The LOC has records of nearly everything.

sermonindex Jul 18, 2007

Brother Greg, I believe you know how much I respect you and this work of God you've been used to produce here, but if I may just give the other perspective of the source of these "visions" that have continued on from basically the same sources.

Yes, I agree. It is doubtful if genuine. The reason I posted it and I was going to post after it was that there have been prophets (so called) that have prophesied calamities to happen in the united states and state that they are witnessing to what george washington saw. I thought it was interesting to bring it up to some of the saints here.

sermonindex Jul 18, 2007

I owe you an apology for that other thread.

Your post wasn't there when I pushed reply and I posted after yours.

I'm glad you know about this vision.

There is another one floating around about Washington seeing America burning and then it stops there, but they say that is just a partial quote of it ... it says afterward, "that out of the ashes rises the Phoenix" type ending and the phoenix bird is a symbol of what I posted above.

Connecting dots to all of these dreams and visions can poop one out. ha

Thank you again.
Annie

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jordanamo Jul 18, 2007


sermonindex wrote:
The reason I posted it and I was going to post after it was that there have been prophets (so called) that have prophesied calamities to happen in the united states and state that they are witnessing to what george washington saw. I thought it was interesting to bring it up to some of the saints here.

I recommend including such things in your initial post, so as not to have confused people.

sermonindex Jul 18, 2007

Hi brother jordan,

I did this once myself. Posted a "prayer" and asked folks what they thought of it.

I think what Greg did is good to do now and then.
It's a learning experience and teaches us to use our own minds and Research.

At first folks were angry at me too for posting that "prayer", but I think later about 3 pages later, we may have seen the reason I may have done it that way.

Greg has good reasons too. I believe it is a good thing to just put things out there sometimes and see what folks will do with those things.
Like in the real world outside of this forum ... these type things are hitting us left and right and there are no markers on them to tell us if they are true or not ... so it teaches us to "test all things" and be Bereans.

Bless you brother.

sermonindex Jul 18, 2007

WOWZERS, that was some reading.

As I was reading, I couldn't help but think of the three perils that would afflict America.

The Civil War

World War II

And perhaps Islam being the third.

Interesting stuff.

J
jordanamo Jul 18, 2007


I believe it is a good thing to just put things out there sometimes and see what folks will do with those things.

I must disagree... It almost can be rather deceitful, even if it's done with completely good motives. Our word/what we say should be upright and we shouldn't let a false word (even if it's someone's else) go through our mouths without clarifying we disagree with it. It should be obvious we disagree with it, at least. I'm not saying that is what Greg was doing here of course, although he sort of was, but from what you said i.e. testing people.

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ginnyrose Jul 20, 2007

Greg,

I read all the responses to this post and now I would like to post my initial reaction.

For one, I never heard of this 'vision' before you posted it here.

This 'visitor' Mr. Washington supposedly had was described as being a female. hmmm....It has always been my impression that any heavenly visitor looked like a male.......

What do you think?

ginnyrose

sermonindex Jul 20, 2007

Ginny I took that to mean the visitor represented America. Since they are saying the vision is not genuine, it's up for grabs of what the woman represents.

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IC Jul 20, 2007

Ginny I took that to mean the visitor represented America. Since they are saying the vision is not genuine, it's up for grabs of what the woman represents.

She Stands alone

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ginnyrose Jul 20, 2007

I thought the lady is the one who introduced Washington to the message, as though she is the moderator. Read it again. What do you think?

ginnyrose

sermonindex Jul 21, 2007

I thought the lady is the one who introduced Washington to the message, as though she is the moderator.

A woman moderator?

Scandalous!!!

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ginnyrose Jul 21, 2007

A woman moderator?

Scandalous!!!

LOL

Ok, Corey, what role did that female have in [bogus] dream?

Corey, you know what? Me thinks this is a rather fruitless discussion, do you not think? lol

On the other hand, the messenger in this vision was a female. In all the visions I have read that were from the LORD, the angels were depicted as males. But this one appears to have been a female. Clear as mud or do I need to explain it more?

Oh, sigh...

ginnyrose

sermonindex Jul 21, 2007

You are right ginnyrose. That hits ya right at the top.

"Angelos" is Male in the Bible always.

The masonic types use "woman" figures a lot.

And the cults too of course.

Feminism and goddess worship like Wicca, and the "goddess earth", all female and all twisted.

If a female entity showed up in my room, I'd throw a Bible at it. HA.

J
jordanamo Jul 21, 2007

On the other hand, the messenger in this vision was a female. In all the visions I have read that were from the LORD, the angels were depicted as males. But this one appears to have been a female. Clear as mud or do I need to explain it more?

"Angelos" is Male in the Bible always.

I don't see a problem with some angels being female. Although I do accept that not many are mentioned in the Bible, I see a mentioning here....

Zechariah 5:9-11 Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and behold, two women coming forward! The wind was in their wings. They had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between earth and heaven. Then I said to the angel who talked with me, “Where are they taking the basket?” He said to me, “To the land of Shinar, to build a house for it. And when this is prepared, they will set the basket down there on its base.” (ESV)

sermonindex Jul 21, 2007

There are no female angels brother.

This passage is just symbolism, like the "whore" lady of babylon type thing.
Only prophets were shown symbolism with women in them.

Maybe some commentaries can explain better.

Quotes:

K&D ~

Zec 5:9-11 -
Zec_5:9. “And I lifted up my eyes, and saw, and behold there came forth two women, and wind in their wings, and they had wings like a stork's wings; and they carried the ephah between earth and heaven. Zec_5:10. And I said to the angel that talked with me, Whither are these taking the ephah? Zec_5:11. And he said to me, To build it a dwelling in the land of Shinar: and it will be placed and set up there upon its stand.” The meaning of this new scene may easily be discovered. The ephah with the woman in it is carried away between earth and heaven, i.e., through the air. Women carry it because there is a woman inside; and two women, because two persons are required to carry so large and heavy a measure, that they may lay hold of it on both sides (תּשּׂנה with the א dropped; cf. Ges. §74, Anm. 4). These women have wings, because it passes through the air; and a stork's wings, because these birds have broad pinions, and not because the stork is a bird of passage or an unclean bird. The wings are filled with wind, that they may be able to carry their burden with greater velocity through the air. The women denote the instruments or powers employed by God to carry away the sinners out of His congregation, without any special allusion to this or the other historical nation. This is all that we have to seek for in these features, which only serve to give distinctness to the picture. But the statement in Zec_5:11 is significant: “to build it a house in the land of Shinar.” The pronoun לה with the suffix softened instead of לּהּ, as in Exo_9:18; Lev_13:4 (cf. Ewald, §247, d), refers grammatically to האיפה; but so far as the sense is concerned, it refers to the woman sitting in the ephah, since a house is not built for a measure, but only for men to dwell in. This also applies to the feminine form הנּתחה, and to the suffix in מכנתהּ. The building of a house indicates that the woman is to dwell there permanently, as is still more clearly expressed in the second hemistich. הוּכן refers to בּית , and is not to be taken hypothetically, in the sense of “as soon as the house shall be restored,” but is a perfect with Vav consec.; and hūkhan, the hophal of kūn, is not to be taken in the sense of restoring, but, in correspondence with mekhunâh, in the sense of establishing or building on firm foundations. Mekhunâh: the firmly established house. In this the woman of sin is brought to rest. The land in which the woman of sin carried away out of the holy land is permanently to dwell, is the land of Shinar. This name is not to be identified with Babel, so as to support the conclusion that it refers to a fresh removal of the people of Israel into exile; but according to Gen_10:10 and Gen_11:2, Shinar is the land in which Nimrod founded the first empire, and where the human race built the tower of Babel which was to reach to the sky. The name is not to be taken geographically here as an epithet applied to Mesopotamia, but is a notional or real definition, which affirms that the ungodliness carried away out of the sphere of the people of God will have its permanent settlement in the sphere of the imperial power that is hostile to God. The double vision of this chapter, therefore, shows the separation of the wicked from the congregation of the Lord, and their banishment into and concentration within the ungodly kingdom of the world. This distinction and separation commenced with the coming of the Messiah, and runs through all the ages of the spread and development of the Christian church, until at the time of the end they will come more and more into outward manifestation; and the evil, having been sifted out by the judicial power of God and His Spirit, will form itself into a Babel of the last days, as Ezekiel 38 and 39 clearly show, and attempt a last struggle with the kingdom of God, in which it will be overcome and destroyed by the last judgment.

John Gill ~

Zec 5:9 - Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked,.... This is not a new vision, but a continuation of the former, as appears from the "ephah" seen in it:

and, behold, there came out two women; out of the same place the "ephah" did. The Targum explains these "two women" by two provinces; and Kimchi interprets them of the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin, who had been carried captive into Babylon; and others of the two kings, Jehoiakim and Zedekiah, who were the cause of the captivity; but Jarchi understands by them the Babylonians and Chaldeans, two nations as one, joined in Nebuchadnezzar's armies, which carried them captive: others think the two reformers, Ezra and Nehemiah, are meant, who were instruments of purging the Jews, returned from captivity, though but weak ones, and therefore are compared to "women"; yet what they did they did swiftly, and therefore are said to have "wings", and under the influence of the Spirit of God; hence the "wind", or "spirit" (f), is said to be in their wings; and they acted from a tender regard to the glory of God and the good of their country; and therefore their wings were like the "wings of a stork"; a bird of passage, as appears from Jer_8:7 and so a fit emblem to be used in the transportation of the "ephah"; of whom Pliny (g) says, from whence they come, and whither they betake themselves, is yet unknown; and adds, there is no doubt that they come from afar; as it is plain they must, if that relation be true, which seems to have good authority, that one of these creatures, upon its return to Germany, brought a green root of ginger with it; which must come from the eastern part of the world; from Arabia, or Ethiopia, or the East Indies, where it grows (h): and as it is a bird that takes such long flights, it must have wings fitted for such a purpose; and which are taken notice of in Job_39:13 to which the wings and feather of the ostrich are compared; for so Bochart (i) there renders the word, "the wing of the ostriches rejoices, truly the wing" as of "a stork, and the feather"; or, as others, "who gave wings to the stork and ostrich?" both remarkable for their wings: and Vatablus renders the word here an "ostrich"; which, according to Pliny (k), is the largest of birds, and almost as big as a beast. In Ethiopia and Africa they are taller than a horse and his rider, and exceed the horse in swiftness; and their wings seem to be given them to help them in running; but which are not sufficient to lift them much above the earth, and so can not be meant here; but rather the stork, whose wings are black and white; and when they fly, they stretch out their necks forwards, and their feet backwards, and with these direct their course; when a tempest rises, standing on both feet, they spread their wings, lay their bill upon their breast, and turn their face that way the storm comes (l). The Targum renders it an eagle, which is the swiftest of birds, and whose wings are very strong to bear anything upon them, as they do their young, to which the allusion is, Deu_32:11 and so, if meant here, to lift up and bear away the ephah between the earth and the heaven; but the word is never used of that bird. The Harpies or Furies, with the Heathens, are represented, as women having wings (m) as these women are said to have; but these are very different women from them. Though some think the Romans, under Vespasian and Titus, are intended; but it may be that the two, perfections of God, his power and justice, in punishing men for their sins, are meant, particularly in the last times, and at the day of judgment. The power of God will be seen in raising the dead; in bringing all to judgment; in separating the wicked from the righteous, and in the execution of the sentence denounced on them: and the justice of God will be very conspicuous in the judgment and destruction of them.

And the wind was in their wings; they had wings, as denoting swiftness, as angels are said to have; hence Maimonides, as Kimchi observes, thought that angels are here meant; but this denotes, that though God is longsuffering, and may seem to defer judgment, which is sometimes a stumbling to the righteous, and a hardening to the wicked; yet, as this is only for the salvation of his elect, so when once the time is up, and the commission given forth, power and justice will speedily execute the sentence: and the "wind" being in their wings shows the greater swiftness and speed in the dispatch of business, and the great strength and force with which they performed it:

for they had wings like the wings of a stork; which, being a creature kind and tender, show that there is no cruelty in the displays of the power and justice of God in punishing sinners:

and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven; which denotes the visibility of the whole measure of the sins of wicked men; they will all be made manifest, and brought into judgment: and also the visibility of their punishment; they will go into everlasting punishment, in the sight of angels and men; and which will be the case of the antichristian beast, Rev_17:8.

(f) רוח "spiritus", V. L. Pagninus, Montanus, Calvin, Burkius. (g) Nat. Hist. l. 10. c. 23. (h) Vid. Bochart. Hierozoic. par. 2. l. 2. c. 29. col. 328, 332. (i) Ibid. c. 16. col. 247, 248. (k) Nat. Hist. l. 10. c. 1. (l) Schotti Physica Curiosa, par. 2. l. 9. c. 26. p. 1162. (m) "Harpyiae et magnis quatiunt clangoribus alas." Virgil. Aeneid. l. 3. ver. 223.

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jordanamo Jul 21, 2007

You may be right Annie, I don't know... Not a deal worth arguing over, that's for sure.

sermonindex Jul 21, 2007

Brother you have a tender heart and I would never think for a minute to argue with you.
Anyone who would post what you did today about Tammy Faye has a big big heart. Bless it.

I only worry for those who are having so many "visions" out there and "talk to angels" and have "visitations" and the big rage of collecting "angel babies and foxy looking angel ladies". Hoy!

In the Greek the word for angel is in the male gender. That's all I meant.

LORD Bless you brother and your post touched me deeply.
Thank you for caring about people.

annie

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