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hmmhmm Jul 26, 2007

i received today a copy of this book, a collection of prayers and devotions from the Puritans , i just wanted to lift it up and say even thou i havent rea the whole thing, i read some here and thre and it seems like a very lovely book, I think this is a perfect way to start a moment in prayer , read one or several of thease to get one going.

[i]Let me find thy light in my darkness,
thy life in my death,
thy joy in my sorrow,
thy grace in my sin.
thy riches in my poverty,
thy glory in my valley.[/i]

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sermonindex Jul 26, 2007

This does look like a very dear book.
Banner of Truth puts out some very good ones.

Found this much.

[b]The Valley of Vision[/b]

Lord, high and holy, meek and lowly, Thou hast brought me to the valley of vision, where I live in the depths but see Thee in the heights; hemmed in by mountains of sin I behold Thy glory. Let me learn by paradox that the way down is the way up, that to be low is to be high, that the broken heart is the healed heart, that the contrite spirit is the rejoicing spirit, that the repenting soul is the victorious soul, that to have nothing is to possess all, that to bear the cross is to wear the crown, that to give is to receive, that the valley is the place of vision. Lord, in the daytime stars can be seen from deepest wells, and the deeper the wells the brighter Thy stars shine; let me find Thy light in my darkness, Thy life in my death, Thy joy in my sorrow, Thy grace in my sin, Thy riches in my poverty, Thy glory in my valley.

http://www.oldlandmarks.com/puritan.htm#The%20Valley%20of%20Vision


Thank you for showing this book.

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roaringlamb Jul 26, 2007

I do not want to turn this into a Calvinist/Arminian debate but you know that the excerpts in Valley of Vision are from Calvinists?

The reason for this is important as the prayers and devotions in there are worded the way they are because of who their Theology presented man as and who God was.

This is what is frustrating in dealing with this issue, men will herald those who proclaim such a depth of sin, and wonder of grace. But belittle, and mock the beliefs behind it.


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hmmhmm Jul 26, 2007

:-) brother, acctually most books i read are from Calvanists, or thoose who tend to "lean" at that direction. Spurgeon is one of my favorites, but i dont share all his belifs and view of scripture. But i have no problem with it, i can enjoy Spurgeon, even Calvin himself, and the next day be refreshed by a sermon from Wesley, we always need to discern what we read, and i can probably find something i dont agree on with every single preacher on SI on some issue.

I dont know if you meen me? but if i belittled or mocked anyone it was not my intension and i would like to apologize.

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roaringlamb Jul 26, 2007

No brother, you have not done anything to offend. I bless the Lord for you, and the posts you put up.

What I am trying to get across, is that too many "demonize" Reformed, Calvinist teaching without realizing that the majority of men and women that we admire were indeed Calvinists. So when someone quotes Spurgeon for instance, one assumes that this person is a Calvinist(not that this matters, I am making a point). When people speak of how glorious John Newton's "Amazing grace" is, one tends to think that they understand that he wrote this from a Calvinist view of grace.

In our day, too many differing theologies have been blurred, and it creates a lot of instability so far as a Christian's walk goes.

sermonindex Jul 26, 2007

Awwwwww Roar, didn't you read my post back at ya on the "Depression" thread, now I've gotta go have that frontal lobotomy after all. Oh My.


HAAA, Actually, most of the books I read are too and told ya --- I'm a member of a Reformed Church.

So can we please have more mercy around here. Hoy-vey! :-)


I'll be posting on that Depression thread more if this keeps up. :-?

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hmmhmm Jul 26, 2007

ok brother, i see what you are saying, and i think you have a point, i sent you a pm before i had a chance to read this ,

God bless you brother

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