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Charles Finney's Assault Upon Biblical Preaching by Don Strickland

sermonindex Jul 27, 2007

Charles Finney's Assault Upon Biblical Preaching
Don Strickland

On October 11, 1821, the day after the young lawyer's dramatic conversion to Christianity, Charles Finney told a client, "I have a retainer from the Lord Jesus Christ to plead his cause, and I cannot plead your."[1] With this statement, modern evangelism was born. Although his theology had not yet been fully formulated, in that one utterance, Charles Finney had just encapsulated modern revivalism's message. For the courtroom scene was to be changed in the American mind from sinners being the accused with Christ as our advocate and God as the judge, to Christ as the accused with the Christian as His advocate and witness, and the mass of humanity as a hostile jury.[2] This rejection of Edwardian theology took with it much of what was left of historic Calvinism in the Northern United States and set the stage for the demise of Calvinism as a dominant force in the American church as a whole.

Finney became an enigmatic blend of Pelagianism, pragmatism and mystical Pietism, packaged in biblical garb. His theology was joined to "new measures," or methods, to create a unique message. This message swept across the nation from New England to Ohio. Finney is therefore called the "father of modern revivalism."

He changed evangelicalism's understanding of revival. The Edwardian idea that revival is "prayed down" was replaced by Finney's conviction that it is "worked up" (along the lines of mass evangelism). The former views God as the agent in salvation and the latter sees man as the instrument of his own spiritual birth. William McLoughlin summarized Finney's major contribution to revivalism by saying that,

both he [Finney] and his followers believed it to be the legitimate function of a revivalist to utilize the laws of mind in order to engineer individuals and crowds into making a choice which was ostensible based upon free will.[3]

The rationale for all that Finney did during revival services was the gaining of converts. The numerical success of his methods was his vindication. As he stated in his Memoirs, "Show me the fruits of your ministry and if they so far exceed mine as to give me evidence that you have found a more excellent way, I will adopt your views."[4] This reasoning prompted Perry Miller to write, "Finney perfected, in his Memoirs, the all-powerful answer to such objections...the results justify my methods."[5]

This factor helped lead later generations of evangelists to adopt Finney's success theme as the barometer of God's blessing. Billy Sunday stated, "theory has got to go into the scrap heap when it comes to experience."[6] In effect, this statement meant that the historic doctrines of grace could be ignored if not altogether rejected by the evangelist. Indeed, D.L. Moody picked up on this reasoning when he said, "It makes no difference how you get a man to God, provided you get him there."[7]

Until his conversion, Finney claims to have only heard that type of preaching where the pastor would blandly read his sermon, telling the congregation that they should sit and wait upon God to save them. These memories greatly affected the young convert. He took this style and content of preaching to be the practical outworking of Calvinism. In his view, the passivity of man in salvation brought deadness into the pews. Therefore, his preaching and his methods were designed to catch the sinner's attention, and once caught, to create an emotional outpouring that would result in conviction, which would then result in conversion. Among the "new measures" that Finney employed to do this work were protracted prayers and meetings, the anxious or inquirer's meeting, the anxious bench, public prayers for know sinners, coarse and irreverent language, and women praying in mixed gatherings.

Was this judgment of the Calvinistic pulpit methodology a fair one? After all, had not Jonathan Edwards "blandly" read his sermons? And yet, his ministry was blessed in the First Great Awakening. The key to this question is not found in methodology, but in theology. The deadness that Finney perceived, was not due to the methods (or lack thereof) which were used in the pulpit, but to the type of response required of the congregation.

The Hopkinsians, who made up a sizable segment of the New England clergy, believed that, of one attempted any exercise to improve his soul's status with God, he would only deepen his guilt and further harden his own heart. The effect of this view upon soteriology was to turn warm, balanced Calvinism into cold, hopeless hyper-Calvinism. This is what Finney saw. It was against this group that Finney reacted.

In contrast to this, Jonathan Edwards and, later, Asahel Nettleton (who was a contemporary of Finney) exhorted their hearers, upon coming under conviction of sin, to go privately before the Lord and plead for their souls. Both of these committed Calvinists witnessed great spiritual awakenings under their ministries.

At issue is Finney's definition of "revival." The debate over methods was, in reality, a debate over the proper means of conversion. Finney, believed that a revival "is not a miracle or dependent on a miracle. It is a purely philosophical result of the right use of the constituted means."[8] Nettleton, however, agreed with Jonathan Edwards that a revival was a blessing that was sent directly from God. To Finney, if one plants corn, one will get corn. But to Nettleton, if one plants corn, one must then wait for God to send rain.[9]

Roger Nicole was once asked by a student, "What did Finney have that Pelagius didn't?" He replied, "A revival!"[10] Did Finney hold the same doctrine of salvation as Pelagius? Or were Finney's similarities with Pelagius superficial and their differences deep? Foundational one's views of salvation are the doctrines of man and sin. Both Pelagius and Finney held to the innate ability of man to do good and thus, to choose God. They argued that there is no justice if man does not have the ability (absolute free will) to obey what God has commanded.[11] And because neither believed that man has an inherent flaw, they concluded that man possesses the possibility for sinless perfection. Both rejected imputation and guilt from Adam, although Finney did ambiguously state Adam left a tendency in man to sin.[12]

As one might guess from the preceding discussion, both men also essentially rejected orthodoxy when it came to the doctrine of salvation. Pelagius, understanding that Christ counteracted Adams's bad example, saw Christ as the good example for man to follow. Finney opted for the Governmental Theory of the atonement, which says that through Christ's death, God was showing man that He was serious about judging sin. Thus, for neither man was the atonement a literal payment of a debt.

Salvation then, for both men, essentially becomes a human work. Election is quieted with foreknowledge. After stating that the Holy Spirit, being only an external influence, is not necessary for salvation, Pelagius defined grace as simply man's ability to choose. Thus, he badly referred to "deserving works" (works which deserved a reward). Regeneration, then, is not in any way a constitutional change within man. Grace, for Finney, is also man's God-given ability, but there is also a necessary external influence of the Holy Spirit in the conversion experience as well. Even so, Finney asserts that man saves himself, making works the true method of salvation. As he himself has said, "the actual turning, or change, is the sinner's own act...the sinner actually changes and is therefore, himself, in the most proper sense, the author of the change."[13] Regeneration, again not being a constitutional change, is merely a change of choice or intention.

Looking at the comparison of the two systems, one can see that, though there are differences, the similarities are more substantial. The cornerstone of Pelagian theology, absolute free will (moral ability), is accepted by Finney without qualification, leading both to conclude that man is the author of his own salvation.

An analogy may be used to doemonstrate the differences and similarities between their views of conversion. Finney sees the "not-yet-Christian" as a disobedient prince locked away in the dungeon of a palace. Suddenly a voice (the Holy Spirit) tells him that he has the key to unlock his cell, if only he would use it. Pelagius, however, understands man as a prince living in that same palace with the Bible us a guidebook to royal etiquette. The major differences are whether man is in a habitual self-bondage to sin and whether he needs the Holy Spirit to remind him that escape from the dungeon is in his own grasp.[14]

As pastors and congregations accepted Finney's message, they also accepted his theology. In this manner, the Presbyterian Church in the Northern United States was torn asunder by Finney's influence. Other churches were also drawn away from biblical preaching as traveling mass evangelists and Finney's own writings spread his theological poison from church to church and denomination to denomination.[15]

Nettleton had already embarked upon a successful revival career which incorporated, in a Reformed manner, methods that Finney would later successfully use as a Pelagian. But how does one define "success" in this context? Is it getting large numbers of people to make a profession of faith in a meeting? Or is it the number of people who persevere after the evangelist is gone? Since the Bible lays a premium on perseverance and warns against empty professions, salvation is understood as being more than just calling, "Lord, Lord." Thus, one should conclude that he who gains professions that persevere is much more successful than he who acquires professions that do not. Even if the latter number is greater, the destiny of the soul is what matters.

Though no actual numbers are available, it has been repeatedly stated, even by Finney himself, that he had many "converts" who fell away from the Christian life. Whereas, Nettleton had very few converts who did not persevere. Both men called on the people to come to Christ for salvation. Comparatively speaking, Nettleton's ministry was far more successful (as that concept has been defined) than Finney's (although undoubtedly some were truly converted under the latter's preaching).

Nettleton was a Calvinist, who called men to recognize their responsibility to repent. But he called men to repent privately, for repentance is between man and God. As a follower of Edwards, Nettleton knew that the fruit of repentance was the barometer of a profession. False repentance could not be sustained by the memory of a mere momentary act of the will. So, by calling on men to respond to God's sovereign grace (if it may be worded that way) in the non-pressured solitude of his own home and by the repeated warnings of spurious solitude of his own home and by the repeated warnings of spurious conversions, Nettleton avoided many false professions.

Finney also called on man to recognize his responsibility to repent. However, being Pelagian, he based repentance not on God's sovereign grace, but upon man's own efforts. By the use of certain methods, the anxious bench for example, Finney pressured his listeners into a decision that seems to have been many times only emotional in nature (false profession). Thus, many of his converts did not persevere. Without the intervention of God's grace, any who embarked on this works salvation were striving either toward despair or carnal security.

Finney's judgment of the pulpit ministry was skewed. Nettleton's practice reflects a more biblically balanced perspective. The methodology of the latter in preaching and evangelism upheld both man's responsibility and God's sovereignty.

Success is not necessarily God's stamp of approval. It is always, however, God's stamp of grace. Doctrine and methods are to be checked by Scripture. For if God could only use perfect instruments, whether men or means, no one would be saved.

Nettleton took up the pen of a "prophet" when he wrote about the "new measures" in 1827:

If the evil be not soon prevented, a generation will arise, inheriting all the obliquities of their leaders, not knowing that a revival ever did or can exist without all those evils. And these evils are destined to be propagated from generation to generation, waxing worse and worse.[16]

And with the excesses of man-centered preaching in churches today, who can say that Nettleton was wrong?


1 Charles G. Finney, Memoirs of Charles G. Finney (New York: A.S. Barnes, 1876), p. 24.

2 Sandra S. Sizer, Gospel Hymns and Social Religion (Philadelphia: Temple University Press, 1978), pp. 47-48.

3 William G. McLoughlin,Modern Revivalism: Charles Grandison Finney to Billy Graham (New York: The Ronald Press Co., 1959) p. 86.

4 Finney, Memoirs, p. 83.

5 Perry Miller,The Life of the Mind in America (New York: Harcourt, Brace and World, 1965), p. 27.

6 Quoted in McLoughlin, Modern Revivalism, p. 86.

7 Quoted in Sidney E. Mead, "Denominationalism: The Shape of Protestantism in America," Church History 23 (December 1954) pp. 308-309.

8 Charles Grandison Finney, Lectures on Revivals of Religion, introduction and notes by William G. McLoughlin (Cambridge, Ma.: Harvard University Press, 1960), p. 13

9 John D. Hannah, class notes of author in 530 History of Gospel Preaching in America, Dallas Theological Seminary, Fall 1983

10 Quoted in Richard Lovelace, "Baptism in the Holy Spirit in the Evangelical Awakenings," Toward a Pentecostal/Charismatic Theology: "Baptism in the Holy Spirit" (Society for Pentecostal Studies Fourteenth Annual Meeting), p. 24

11 "The moral government of God everywhere assumes and implies the liberty of the human will, and the natural ability of men to obey God." Charles G. Finney, Finney's Systematic Theology, abridged, (Minneapolis: Bethany House Publishers, 1976), p. 261.

12 Finney, Systematic Theology, abridged, pp. 16-17, 140-141, and 229

13 Quoted in James E. Johnson, "Charles G. Finney and a Theology of Revivalism," Church History 38 (1969): 353.

14 Some have tried to show that Finney, in later years, regretted his overall lack of emphasis on God's part in conversion by quoting a passage from Reflections on Revival, written in 1845 (Leonard I. Sweet, "The View of Man Inherent in New Measures Revivals," Church History 45 (June 1976) : 211). Many of the observations here came from his Systematic Theology, which was written in 1846. Also, when he had the opportunity to make changes by revising his Lectures on Revivals in 1868, he left it "almost unchanged" (McLoughlin, introduction to Finney's Lectures on Revivals, p. iii).

15 Although this theological verdict must be made, it should also be understood that the motives of those believers who follow Finney in this regard are not being impugned.

16 Bennett Tyler and Andrew Bonar, The Life and Labours of Asahel Nettleton (Hartford, Ct.: Robbins and Smith, 1844; reprinted by Carlisle, Pa.: The Banner of Truth Trust, 1975), p. 348.

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InTheLight Jul 27, 2007

Was this judgment of the Calvinistic pulpit methodology a fair one? After all, had not Jonathan Edwards "blandly" read his sermons? And yet, his ministry was blessed in the First Great Awakening. The key to this question is not found in methodology, but in theology. The deadness that Finney perceived, was not due to the methods (or lack thereof) which were used in the pulpit, but to the type of response required of the congregation.

Funny, but the author doesn't mention that Finney's ministry was blessed in the Second great Awakening just as Edward's was in the First Great Awakening. Perhaps it has not so much to do with methods or theology, but with the Spirit of God doing His work through a surrendered vessel.

In Christ,

Ron

sermonindex Jul 27, 2007

By blessing, are you refering to the number of converts that was recorded at his meetings (Which you can read on a piece of paper) or the number of souls the were truly converted. ( Which is seen by the fruit of a new life in Christ.)

You need not reason with me about it. Reason with Finney's on words.

"I was often instrumental in bringing Christians under great conviction, and into a state of temporary repentance and faith . . . . [But] falling short of urging them up to a point, where they would become so acquainted with Christ as to abide in Him, they would of course soon relapse into their former state" [cited in B. B. Warfield, Studies in Perfectionism, 2 vols. (New York: Oxford, 1932), 2:24].

One of Finney's contemporaries registered a similar assessment, but more bluntly:

During ten years, hundreds, and perhaps thousands, were annually reported to be converted on all hands; but now it is admitted, that real converts are comparatively few. It is declared, even by [Finney] himself, that "the great body of them are a disgrace to religion"[cited in Warfield, 2:23].

B. B. Warfield cited the testimony of Asa Mahan, one of Finney's close associates,

...who tells us—to put it briefly—that everyone who was concerned in these revivals suffered a sad subsequent lapse: the people were left like a dead coal which could not be reignited; the pastors were shorn of all their spiritual power; and the evangelists—"among them all," he says, "and I was personally acquainted with nearly every one of them—I cannot recall a single man, brother Finney and father Nash excepted, who did not after a few years lose his unction, and become equally disqualified for the office of evangelist and that of pastor."
Thus the great "Western Revivals" ran out into disaster. . . . Over and over again, when he proposed to revisit one of the churches, delegations were sent him or other means used, to prevent what was thought of as an affliction. . . . Even after a generation had passed by, these burnt children had no liking for the fire [Warfield, 2:26-28].

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theopenlife Jul 27, 2007

Those are some intense quotes... Witnessing this weekend?

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roaringlamb Jul 27, 2007

Brother we may differ on this, but pragmatism is not the Holy Spirit.

Any one can beat people with morals and their failure to adhere to morals, such as chewing tobacco, drinking coffee, drinking alcohol etc and then use that as means of conviction.

This conviction is not what produces Godly sorrow, nor does it produce a saving faith, but rather a moral repentance, and continuance in the works of the flesh to be justified before God.

Finney did not believe that a man could be justified by faith, consider this quote-

[i]"There can be no justification in a legal or forensic sense, but upon the ground of universal, perfect, and uninterrupted obedience to law. This is of course denied by those who hold that gospel justification, or the justification of penitent sinners, is of the nature of a forensic or judicial justification. They hold to the legal maxim, that what a man does by another he does by himself, and therefore the law regards Christ's obedience as ours, on the ground that He obeyed for us [Systematic Theology, 362].[/i]

In Finney's view a man is justified by his sanctification, and when the one fails, so does the other. This is not different than Rome's view of justification. Consider this quote from the Council of Trent-

[i]CANON IX.-If any one saith, [b]that by faith alone the impious is justified;[/b] in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.[/i]

[i]CANON XI.-[b]If any one saith, that men are justified, either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ, or by the sole remission of sins,[/b] to the exclusion of the grace and the charity which is poured forth in their hearts by the Holy Ghost, and is inherent in them; or even that the grace, whereby we are justified, is only the favour of God; let him be anathema.[/i]

[i]CANON XV.-If any one saith, that a man, who is born again and justified, is bound of faith to believe that he is assuredly in the number of the predestinate; let him be anathema.[/i]

These are points to which Finney would object. Because of his faulty views on sin, he believed that a man could be without sin, and that he must be without sin in order to be justified.

Not wanting to start a debate, but when men make a "hero" of a man whose doctrine had been declared as heresy in the 500s, someone needs to say something.

His pragmatic approach to getting people to the anxious bench has led to our modern day belief that if people come forward, they can be saved. He also introduced "praying a person through", which is not Biblical, as no one can make God give life, or withhold life from someone. God and God alone gives life to souls, of course Finney believed that if only men would cooperate with God, then God would give life. But we understand that men will not cooperate with God as they are His enemies in the natural state.

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roaringlamb Jul 27, 2007

[i]..who tells us—to put it briefly—that everyone who was concerned in these revivals suffered a sad subsequent lapse: the people were left like a dead coal which could not be reignited; the pastors were shorn of all their spiritual power; and the evangelists—"among them all," he says, "and I was personally acquainted with nearly every one of them—I cannot recall a single man, brother Finney and father Nash excepted, who did not after a few years lose his unction, and become equally disqualified for the office of evangelist and that of pastor."
Thus the great "Western Revivals" ran out into disaster. . . . Over and over again, when he proposed to revisit one of the churches, delegations were sent him or other means used, to prevent what was thought of as an affliction. . . . Even after a generation had passed by, these burnt children had no liking for the fire [Warfield, 2:26-28].[/i]

This is what happens when the emphasis is on man and man's ability. It's the same thing that happens when a man sets out to improve himself apart from he work of the Spirit. Christ said, "the flesh profits nothing, the Spirit gives life"

Preaching Christ and Him Crucified is what gives life, not morals, and moral failure. Men know they need righteousness, or that something is wrong with them. Thus men will scramble around like rats to find a way to make themselves feel "good". Perhaps you've heard men say things like, " I'm ok with the big man upstairs."

Yet they are using fig leaves to hold up before God, when He demands blood and re-clothing.

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running2win Jul 27, 2007

I'm learning that Finney bashing is a sport of choice with some here.

He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are an abomination to the Lord.
Proverbs 17:15

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jarona Jul 27, 2007

I think the fact that people still critisize Finney today is an awesome proof that he was a great man of God.

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running2win Jul 27, 2007

I think the fact that people still critisize Finney today is an awesome proof that he was a great man of God.

Well said Jarona. Let us be grateful that God is so gracious with our errors that we make out of a sincere heart.

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roaringlamb Jul 27, 2007

I think the fact that people still critisize Finney today is an awesome proof that he was a great man of God.

Brother if this were true, then Joseph Smith(founder of the Mormons) would have been greatly used by God, as would the Roman Catholic Church.

We must understand that anyone who teaches that Christ and His merit, and work is not enough for a sinner to be justified is not preaching the Gospel. This is what Paul is addressing in Galatians. Men were trying to tell the Church there that they must also add works(circumcision in this case) to be justified before God.
Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into [b]the grace of Christ[/b] unto another gospel:
Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Later Paul even tells those who boasted of their legal perfection-
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

And-
Gal 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
Gal 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
Gal 5:4 [b]Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. [/b]

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InTheLight Jul 27, 2007

Perhaps this would be a good time to review this thread posted by our good host, there are numerous accounts of the blessings I'm speaking of...

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2428&forum=34]Daniel Nash - Prevailing Prince of Prayer[/url]

In Christ,

Ron

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hulsey Jul 27, 2007

I think the fact that people still critisize Finney today is an awesome proof that he was a great man of God.

People still criticize Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin while we whitewash the walls of dead prophets. Sorry for the extreme comparison, but I thought it necessary to show that this is not a proof of God's favor. Criticizing the persons of Finney, Wesley, Calvin, etc. is of course wrong. Recently in the forums posters have appealed to the personal character of men of the past to "prove" that their teachings were false.

However, a man's system of teaching and his doctrine [i]must[/i] be open to examination. Paul himself praised the Bereans for examining his teachings and confronted Peter when he separated from the Gentiles. For example, I don't see modern Calvinists, or Arminians executing heretics at the stake. But I do see them following and teaching the respective systems of theology. For Finney's work to be proven, it must be open to criticism.

The "proof" then is not that Finney's being attacked, but does his doctrine line up with scripture.

Blessings,
Jeremy Hulsey

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roaringlamb Jul 27, 2007

The "proof" then is not that Finney's being attacked, but does his doctrine line up with scripture.

Exactly, play the ball and not the man.

sermonindex Jul 27, 2007

For example, I don't see modern Calvinists, or Arminians executing heretics at the stake.

Brother, I'm in the middle here. I attend a reformed church but I'm not reformed and was taught that Finney should have just stayed out of soteriology but I'm not reformed, but we all get along just fine at church with our mutual love of Christ and desire to serve Him with fervor.

I've backed off of these type threads because they have become heated enough to feel like there's a fire with a stake stuck in it somewhere too close.

Thank you for your tempering.
In Christ.

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jarona Jul 27, 2007


hulsey wrote:
I think the fact that people still critisize Finney today is an awesome proof that he was a great man of God.

People still criticize Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin while we whitewash the walls of dead prophets. Sorry for the extreme comparison, but I thought it necessary to show that this is not a proof of God's favor. Criticizing the persons of Finney, Wesley, Calvin, etc. is of course wrong. Recently in the forums posters have appealed to the personal character of men of the past to "prove" that their teachings were false.

However, a man's system of teaching and his doctrine [i]must[/i] be open to examination. Paul himself praised the Bereans for examining his teachings and confronted Peter when he separated from the Gentiles. For example, I don't see modern Calvinists, or Arminians executing heretics at the stake. But I do see them following and teaching the respective systems of theology. For Finney's work to be proven, it must be open to criticism.

The "proof" then is not that Finney's being attacked, but does his doctrine line up with scripture.

Blessings,
Jeremy Hulsey

good point, good point!

sermonindex Jul 27, 2007

He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are an abomination to the Lord.

Actually, that's a great verse to point out some of Finney's heresies.

Finney said this,


There can be no justification in a legal or forensic sense, but upon the ground[2] of universal, perfect, and uninterrupted obedience to law. This is of course denied by those who hold that gospel justification, or the justification of penitent sinners, is of the nature of a forensic or judicial justification. They hold to the legal maxim, that what a man does by another he does by himself, and therefore the law regards Christ's obedience as ours, on the ground that He obeyed for us [Systematic Theology, 362].

Finney's view of justification primarily hinges on the believer's personal obedience to the Law, and that God will not truly and finally pardon the repentant sinner until after that repentant sinner finishes a lifetime of faithful obedience.

Finney's whole system goes against this verse in Proverbs 17.

The Bible says that the wicked are estranged from the womb... They go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. (Psa 58:3) So, we all are born Wicked people and we are in desperate need of the new birth wrought by the mercy and power of God through the gospel upon His people. No one is justified by the Law. (see Romans 3) If a man is justified by His obedience to the Law. (as the Mormons, J.W's., and Catholics believe) then God becomes an abomination when he justifies a wicked man. ...And the cross becomes just another Mel Gibson film, rather than a finished work of redemption for God's elect. He that justifies the wicked is an abomination to the Lord. Therefore, Finney's theology, makes God out to be an abomination.

Finney was against the doctrine of imputed righteousness.

Those who hold that justification by imputed righteousness is a forensic proceeding, take a view of final or ultimate justification, according with their view of the nature of the transaction. With them, faith receives an imputed righteousness, and a judicial justification. The first act of faith, according to them, introduces the sinner into this relation, and obtains for him a perpetual justification. They maintain that after this first act of faith it is impossible for the sinner to come into condemnation; [Systematic Theology, 369].

...that, being once justified, he is always thereafter justified, whatever he may do; indeed that he is never justified by grace, as to sins that are past, upon condition that he ceases to sin; that Christ's righteousness is the ground, and that his own present obedience is not even a condition of his justification, so that, in fact, his own present or future obedience to the law of God is, in no case, and in no sense, a sine qua non of his justification, present or ultimate.
Now this is certainly another gospel from the one I am inculcating. It is not a difference merely upon some speculative or theoretic point. It is a point fundamental to the gospel and to salvation, if any one can be [Systematic Theology, 369.]

These and similar passages are relied upon, as teaching the doctrine of an imputed righteousness; and such as these: "The Lord our righteousness" (Phil. 3:9). . . . "Christ our righteousness" is Christ the author or procurer of our justification. But this does not imply that He procures our justification by imputing His obedience to us. . . [Charles Finney, Systematic Theology (Minneapolis: Bethany), 372-73].


If you believe that regeneration and justification comes from an act of fleshly faculties... your view of salvation becomes a choice, a mere decision from man, a raised hand voting for Jesus, a signature on a decision card, a prayer from an impure heart that never did anyone any good.

Rather, salvation is a supernatural-miracle work of God by the means of the power of the gospel being preached to God's Elect whom He will have mercy on. We are to preach to every creature and call them to repent and believe the gospel. We are to preach on Sin, Law, Righteousness, and Judgment to come... and we are to preach the God of the Bible. Jesus Christ Crucified the Risen Lord of Lords and King of Kings. We are not to preach a Jesus who is running for office and needs our vote so He can increase His kingdom. Sinners already voted concerning Jesus. They did it at the Cross. They crucified Him. We crucified Him. We did it in willful ignorance and unbelief in our hearts. No, sinner will ever vote for Jesus again. He's already in office... and He will have mercy on whom He will have mercy.

God bless you! -Abraham

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HopePurifies Jul 27, 2007

On October 11, 1821, the day after the young lawyer's dramatic conversion to Christianity, Charles Finney told a client, "I have a retainer from the Lord Jesus Christ to plead his cause, and I cannot plead your."[1] With this statement, modern evangelism was born. Although his theology had not yet been fully formulated, in that one utterance, Charles Finney had just encapsulated modern revivalism's message. For the courtroom scene was to be changed in the American mind from sinners being the accused with Christ as our advocate and God as the judge, to Christ as the accused with the Christian as His advocate and witness, and the mass of humanity as a hostile jury.[2]

I'm sure the majority of people here who do not have an agenda find that was an eloquent remark by Finney and praise God for his conversion. You mock his salvation experience- what pungent irreverence.
And I'm hardly surprised to see that the writer is a Calvinist. For most of this article is not an attack on Finney- but an attack on Armenianism.

Foundational one's views of salvation are the doctrines of man and sin. Both Pelagius and Finney held to the innate ability of man to do good and thus, to choose God. They argued that there is no justice if man does not have the ability (absolute free will) to obey what God has commanded.[11] And because neither believed that man has an inherent flaw, they concluded that man possesses the possibility for sinless perfection. Both rejected imputation and guilt from Adam, although Finney did ambiguously state Adam left a tendency in man to sin.[12]

Yay, they preached from scriptures! I'm glad to hear that. They believed God when He said we could obey Him (His commands are not grievous), that we could know His laws (they are not far from us), and that we could choose Him (for why should you die, O Israel?). Believing man can choose to do good is just not evil and not heresy.

And with the excesses of man-centered preaching in churches today, who can say that Nettleton was wrong?

If there were people preaching like Finney today- the church would be much better off. It's foolish to claim that today's antinomian church is a result of Finney's revival. It's traceable to Billy Graham's revival and those like him. That is man-centeredness- not what Finney did. Finney tells a man his wickedness straight up- but with hope for a cure.

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HopePurifies Jul 27, 2007

Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

James 2:24, Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

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running2win Jul 27, 2007

I'm out of this thing. This conversation won't go anywhere healthy but I honestly wonder, What was the point in posting this article in the first place?
Finney's been dead for a hundred and thirty years. He didn't leave some false religion (so comparing him with Joseph Smith is completely beyond unbiased argument), he didn't even leave a denomination behind him- so what was the edification to be had?...

just the things that went through my mind-

sermonindex Jul 27, 2007

It's traceable to Billy Graham's revival and those like him. That is man-centeredness- not what Finney did. Finney tells a man his wickedness straight up- but with hope for a cure.

You'd be suprised about Billy's early years and How he preached... he preached on sin back then. nevertheless, (like Finney) his gospel was in essence void of true Gospel Hope.

Read how Charles Finney pleaded with sinners...


And now, sinner, while the subject is before you, will you yield? To keep yourself away from under the motives of the gospel, by neglecting church, and neglecting your Bible, will prove fatal to your soul. And to be careless when you do attend, or to hear with attention and refuse to make up your mind and yield, will be equally fatal. And now, "I beseech you, by the mercies of God, that you at this time render your body and soul, a living sacrifice to God, which is your reasonable service." Let the truth take hold upon your conscience--throw down your rebellious weapons--give up your refuges of lies--fix your mind steadfastly upon the world of considerations that should instantly decide you to close in with the offer of reconciliation while it now lies before you. Another moment's delay, and it may be too late forever. The Spirit of God may depart from you--the offer of life may be made no more, and this one more slighted offer of mercy may close up your account, and seal you over to all the horrors of eternal death. Hear, then, O sinner, I beseech you, and obey the word of the Lord--"Make you a new heart and a new spirit, for why will ye die?" [From the Sermon "Sinners bound to change their own hearts."]

Read how George Whitefield pleaded with sinners...


I offer you salvation this day; the door of mercy is not yet shut, there does yet remain a sacrifice for sin, for all that will accept of the Lord Jesus Christ. He will embrace you in the arms of his love. O turn to him, turn in a sense of your own unworthiness; tell him how polluted you are, how vile, and be not faithless, but believing. Why fear ye that the Lord Jesus Christ will not accept of you? Your sins will be no hindrance, your unworthiness no hindrance; if your own corrupt hearts do not keep you back nothing will hinder Christ from receiving of you. He loves to see poor sinners coming to him, he is pleased to see them lie at his feet pleading his promises; and if you thus come to Christ, he will not send you away without his Spirit; no, but will receive and bless you. O do not put a slight on infinite love--he only wants you to believe on him, that you might be saved. This, this is all the dear Saviour desires, to make you happy, that you may leave your sins, to sit down eternally with him at the marriage supper of the Lamb. Let me beseech you to come to Jesus Christ; I invite you all to come to him, and receive him as your Lord and Saviour; he is ready to receive you. I invite you to come to him, that you may find rest for your souls. He will rejoice and be glad. He calls you by his ministers; O come unto him--he is labouring to bring you back from sin and from Satan, unto himself: open the door of your hearts, and the King of glory shall enter in. My heart is full, it is quite full, and I must speak, or I shall burst. What, do you think your souls of no value? Do you esteem them as not worth saving? Are your pleasures worth more than your souls? Had you rather regard the diversions of this life, than the salvation of your souls? If so, you will never be partakers with him in glory; but if you come unto him, he will supply you with his grace here, and bring you to glory hereafter; and there you may sing praises and hallelujahs to the Lamb for ever. And may this be the happy end of all who hear me!


George Whitefield was thrown out of the established churches in England and America because he preached that people must repent and be born again. He devoted most of his life to preaching the gospel in the open air so that sinners might be saved. He many times wept while pleading with sinners to come to Christ. When asked why he wept, he replied: “Because you will not weep for yourselves!”

quoted from:
http://vintagechristianity.wordpress.com/2007/01/23/ergun-caners-worst-nightmare/

Read how Spurgeon pleaded with sinners...


your Father says to you one and all, "Run not from me, but come to me, my child!" Jesus, who died, says, "Flee not from me, but come to me, for I will accept you; I will receive you; I cast out none that come unto me. "Sinner, Jesus never did reject a coming soul yet, and he never will. Oh! try him! Try him! Now come, with thy sins about thee just as thou art, to the bleeding, dying Saviour, and he will say to thee, "I have blotted out thy sins; go and sin no more; I have forgiven thee." May God grant thee grace to put thy trust in him "who gave himself for us"!
There are many other inferences which I might draw if I had time, but if this last one we have drawn be so applied to your hearts as to be carried out, it will be enough. Now do not you go and try to do good worlds in order to merit heaven. Do not go and try to pray yourselves into heaven by the efficacy of praying. Remember, he "gave himself for us." The old proverb is that "there is nothing freer than a gift," and surely this gift of God, this eternal life, must be free, and we must have it freely, or not at all. I sometimes see put up at some of our doctors that they receive "gratis patients." That is the sort of patients my Master receives. He receives none but those who come gratis. He never did receive anything yet, and he never will, except your love and your thanks after he has saved you. But you must come to him empty-handed; came just as you are, and he will receive you now, and you shall live to sing to the praise and the glory of his grace who has accepted you in the Beloved, and "who gave himself for us" God help you to do it. Amen.
[From the sermon "Christ's Marvellous Giving"]

Now hear what Spurgeon says about biblical gospel preaching...


I have my own opinion that there is no such thing as preaching Christ and Him crucified, unless we preach what nowadays is called Calvinism. It is a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else. I do not believe we can preach the gospel if we do not preach justification by faith without works; nor unless we preach the sovereignty of God in His dispensation of grace; nor unless we exalt the electing unchangeable eternal, immutable, conquering love of Jehovah; nor do I think we can preach the gospel unless we base it upon the special and particular redemption of His elect and chosen people which Christ wrought out upon the cross. (Charles Spurgeon, The New Park Street Pulpit, Vol. 1, 1856).

... and I will go as far as Martin Luther, in that strong assertion of his, where he says, ‘If any man doth ascribe of salvation, even the very least, to the free will of man, he knoweth nothing of grace, and he hath not learnt Jesus Christ aright.’ It may seem a harsh sentiment; but he who in his soul believes that man does of his own free will turn to God, cannot have been taught of God, for that is one of the first principles taught us when God begins with us, that we have neither will nor power, but that He gives both; that he is ‘Alpha and Omega’ in the salvation of men. (C.H. Spurgeon from the sermon "Free Will A Slave", 1855).

You must first deny the authenticity and full inspiration of the Holy Scripture before you can legitimately and truly deny election. (Charles Spurgeon, Sermons, Vol. 3, p.130).

When I was coming to Christ, I thought I was doing it all myself, and though I sought the Lord earnestly, I had no idea the Lord was seeking me. I do not think the young convert is at first aware of this. I can recall the very day and hour when first I received those truths in my own soul - when they were as John Bunyan says, burnt into my heart as with a hot iron; and I can recollect how I felt that I had grown all of a sudden from a babe into a man - that I had made progress in scriptural knowledge, through having found, once for all, the clue to the truth of God ... I saw that God was at the bottom of it all, and that He was the Author of my faith, and so the whole doctrine of grace opened up to me, and from that doctrine I have not departed to this day, and I desire to make this my constant confession, I ascribe my change wholly to God. (Charles Spurgeon, Autobiography: 1, The Early Years, Banner of Truth, pp. 164-165).

George Whitefield said, "We are all born Arminians." It is grace that turns us into Calvinists. (Charles Spurgeon, Sermons, Vol. 2, p. 124).

Calvinism did not spring from Calvin. We believe that it sprang from the great Founder of all truth. (Charles Spurgeon, Sermons, Vol. 7, p. 298).

We declare on scriptural authority that the human will is so desperately set on mischief, so depraved, so inclined to everything that is evil, and so disinclined to everything that is good, that without the powerful, supernatural, irresistible influence of the Holy Spirit, no human will ever be constrained toward Christ. (Charles Spurgeon, Sermons, Vol. 4, p.139).

I do not come into this pulpit hoping that perhaps somebody will of his own free will return to Christ. My hope lies in another quarter. I hope that my Master will lay hold of some of them and say, "You are mine, and you shall be mine. I claim you for myself." My hope arises from the freeness of grace, and not from the freedom of the will.

I believe that Christ came into the world not to put men into a salvable state, but into a saved state. Not to put them where they could save themselves, but to do the work in them and for them, from first to last. If I did not believe that there was might going forth with the word of Jesus which makes men willing, and which turns them from the error of their ways by the mighty, overwhelming, constraining force of divine influence, I should cease to glory in the cross of Christ. (C.H. Spurgeon, Sermons, Vol. 3, p. 34).

A man is not saved against his will, but he is made willing by the operation of the Holy Ghost. A mighty grace which he does not wish to resist enters into the man, disarms him, makes a new creature of him, and he is saved. (C.H. Spurgeon, Sermons, Vol. 10, p. 309).

I question whether we have preached the whole counsel of God, unless predestination with all its solemnity and sureness be continually declared. (Charles Spurgeon, Sermons, Vol. 6, p. 26).


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