Kenneth Hagin and the Laughing Revival.

One of the most disturbing videos I have ever seem in researching and looking into Charismatic excesses on the web was this of Kenneth hagin. I really don't ever care to watch it again, it would break my heart. Its literally the demonic laughing at the state of lukewarm christians who are under the influnce and control of the devil and can't even hear the voice of the Holy Spirit to lead them out of the darkness of the fellowship they are in.Kenneth Hagin was a teacher in the popular Word Faith movement and has had a great influnce in many modern movements of Christianity.KENNETH HAGIN SHOWS HOW TO FALL DOWN (RealVideo 7:00 stream - Bible.ca)Please realize this is serious, its not a laughing matter we should be weeping at the state of the Church, I don't know what a true prophet like A.W. Tozer would do? I really don't! Why aren't people standing up jealously for the truth Lord?

I would like to pose a challenge to you who have posted in this forum, or anywhere for that matter, who have bashed Kenneth Hagin. The man was a true follower of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. There are many people today, who want to laugh at him, and Christians like me, because we speak in Tongues, and because we study our Bibles and KNOW that we can speak on behalf of Jesus Christ, and that we are Sons of God, and heirs according to the promise. The comments you have all made about the Late Rev. Hagin, remind me of a story in the Bible when Jesus was laughed and scorned, and was told that He casts out demons, in the name of Satan. You might wish to look that one up, also you might wish to study your Bible a bit more, pray to the Lord to help you realize what the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is. I am not attacking any of you, I have love, and compassion for you. Since you took the time to post on here what you did not like about Hagin's teachings, then its obvious that there is a huge part of you, which wants to serve God to the fullest. Thats very admirable, so I'd just suggest instead of bashing what Hagin teaches, seeing as how it is what Jesus himself taught, go to the Lord in prayer, and ask for a Revelation of his Mighty Word. Remember, there is Mercy, and there is nothing but Love for everyone. And also remember, it is written that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. I have read alot of Hagin's books, and my Pastor was a graduate of Rhema Bible College. The Word of Faith movement, as it has been called, might as well just be called, The Word of God movement, because thats all these men have done. They have taken God's Holy Word, and decided to live by every single letter of it, not by what they wish to live by. All Christians everywhere need to be Baptised in the Holy Spirit, speak in other Tongues, then will they know the full truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. So again I say, I'm glad to see so many of you here posting in this forum, and the passion with which you posted. But a passion that makes fun of anyone, is a passion given to you by Satan himself. You need to rebuke him in your life, and allow him no control over your tongues any longer. God be with you all, Mitch Miller

I would like to pose a challenge to you who have posted in this forum, or anywhere for that matter, who have bashed Kenneth Hagin.I or anyone else haven't bashed or 'made fun' of this man. I am seriously concerned about the fruit and this man's life and would say its not according to godliness. God is the judge of all men's hearts but the scriptures are very plain in stating that we who are truly of the body of Christ may judge, discern amongst ourselves and expose false teachings that don't align with the 'true gospel of Jesus Christ'. The distinction that you bring about that 'you are baptized in the Holy Spirit' and 'speak in tongues' so therefore everything that brother Hagin teaches is correct because they have that extra revelation and walk in God that most of us don't? that is wrong and truly gives a bad name to the deeper Christian life and of walking and having our movement as Christians in the spirit. Everything must be aligned to the Word of God! the holy Scriptures given to us.If the 'baptism of the Holy Spirit' equals what I see in the video truly I don't want it. My spirit in my doesn't bear witness with the excesses that are happening and I weep over the way that Christ's spirit is maligned. I am being straight forward with you brother, I as a Chrisitan and a true follower of Christ do not agree with the manifestations and teachings that accompained Kenneth Hagin's ministry, and therefore do not have them up on this website. I am not saying that Kenneth Hagin could not be Christian or even yourself for that matter, but I do have the liberty to say what the spirit of truth leads to into and what it bears witness with and not.God has led me in this ministry to clearly show truth rather than naming and exposing darkness by showing darkness. In most cases I have simply been led to offer materials on this website that show the light of God and by listening and reading these resources people have realized what darkness is and have had a hunger for the pure truth of God, 'the truth that is in Jesus'. Don't ever be decieved there will be many gospels, many spirits, many teachings, but there is only ONE gospel, ONE spirit, and ONE teaching that is true and comes from above. Thats what God reveals and shows through the Holy Spirit in the Scriptures.

Yes Sir you are correct, there is ONE Gospel. And there is nothing that Brother Hagin has ever said, that does not line up with the Word of God. Every writer of the New Testament was Baptized in the Holy Spirit. They had recieved it, when people were saved in the Book of Acts, Paul showed up and prayed for them that they 'might recive the baptism of the Holy Ghost' This surely shows us that it is something we can recieve after Baptism. However, I have figured a little something out, I have found this website is based I believe, on Baptist 'Doctrine'. That can easily explain, why Brother Hagin isn't liked so much by people who like to post here. I was origionally a Baptist, however after hearing over and over again that Tongues was not for us, and then reading in the Bible how EVERY Christian is to speak in Tongues, and then also having the Baptists say that Healing isn't for everyone, yet The Bible says that By his stripes ye WERE healed. Not might be, not could be, but its already done. And for that fact, after I myself have felt God move in mighty ways in my life, I have realized that EVERY single Word of the Bible is fact. If you chose to doubt teachings of Brother Hagin, or any other so called 'Faith' man. Then that is your own choice, but as God himself has said, 'My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge' Jesus Christ, has delegated his name to us, we can cast out demons, we can heal the sick, we can speak in a Heavnly language which talks directly to God the Father. I would like to know what exactly it is, you think Hagin has taught, that does not lign up with God's Holy Word. I can assure you, if you'd take the time to stop, ask the Holy Spirit to lead you through the Scriptures, you would find a new Revleation of Jesus Christ. I will keep you in my prayers,Mitch Miller

Yes Sir you are correct, there is ONE Gospel. And there is nothing that Brother Hagin has ever said, that does not line up with the Word of God.I would fully disagree with that statement. Kenneth Hagin taught false doctrines. Here is a few quotations from a book called "Charismatic Choas" on Hagin, I don't fully agree with all the presuppositions of the book but I do think he clearly states alot of these doctrines:--- As the name "Word-Faith" implies, this movement teaches that faith is a matter of what we say more that whom we trust or what truths we embrace and affirm in our hearts. A favorite term in the Word-Faith movement is "positive confession." It refers to the Word-Faith teaching that words have creative power. What you say, Word-Faith teachers claim, determines everything that happens to you. Your "confessions," that is, the things you say -- especially the favors you demand of God -- must all be stated positively and without wavering. Then God is required to answer (Charismatic Chaos, p. 281). Word-Faith believers view their positive confessions as an incantation by which they can conjure up anything they desire: "Believe it in your heart; say it with your mouth. That is the principle of faith. You can have what you say" (Charismatic Chaos, p. 285).- Word-Faith is the fastest-growing movement within the professing church. It has involved two distinct but closely related factions: the Peale/Schuller-Positive/Possibility thinkers, with their roots in New Thought, and the Hagin/Copeland Positive Confession and Word-Faith groups, which have their roots in E.W. Kenyon, William Branham, and the Manifest Sons of God/Latter Rain Movement. In Hagin's book, Having Faith in Your Faith, he teaches that anyone can develop universal "laws of faith" to get what he wants. Hagin teaches that for a pastor or anyone to drive a Chevrolet instead of a luxury car isn't "being humble, that's being ignorant" of God's "law of prosperity" that works for "whoever you are," saint or sinner. "Having faith in your faith" is a far cry from what Jesus taught: "Have faith in God." [Other Hagin books that clearly detail his "theology" are How to Write Your Own Ticket with God (Tulsa: Faith Library, 1979) and Godliness is Profitable (Tulsa: Faith Library, 1982).] Hagin claims Jesus told him, "If anybody, anywhere, will ... put these [positive confession] principles into operation, he will always have whatever he wants from Me or God the Father" (Charismatic Chaos, p. 281).--Every writer of the New Testament was Baptized in the Holy Spirit.There is a very vast confusion over this doctrine in the current Christianity of our age. When most Christians hear about the 'baptism of the Holy Spirit' they cring because they associate it will all kings of excesses and Spiritual choas. There is a life of absolute surrender where God takes control of your life filling you in every place with the indwelling Holy Spirit. It is a life that will beget spiritual fruit of gentleness, love, hope, etc and also the Spirit will lead you into all truth.I have figured a little something out, I have found this website is based I believe, on Baptist 'Doctrine'. That can easily explain, why Brother Hagin isn't liked so much by people who like to post here.Sadly brother you have missed the mark greatly here. This website ministry is "Christian" and cannot be labeled with a restricted label of 'baptist' or 'presbyterian'. This site consists of preachers from all denominations and sects but the commonality is that they were men that had the spirit of God and have a love for the truth.

Middle road?Hi and welcome to the site. 'middle road?' thats a dangerous road forsure I tend with many saints of the past to stay within the realm of scripture, revealed truth given us from heaven. I really don't see how the church of corinth could be compared to the scene shown in this video. Just think about it LAUGHING I just don't see it. And animal noises? come on Christians this is NOT God! To put Christians in the place of having to either agree fully with the things happening in Christian circles calling it a 'moving of the spirit' is not fair. I fully believe in the fulness of Gods spirit in the Christian life, the gifts of the Spirit and the amazing miricales that can result. And also the depths of Christ-like character that we can attain to and also depth of spiritual knoweldge the spirit can lead us to. But me disagreeing with certain circles of Christian experience does not nullify the truth of God and my possible attaining to this deeper Christian Life. I am rather pointing people into the best ways.. and leading them away from anything that is questionable and dilluted.

Thanks for the welcome, nothing like jumping straight into a fire.hehe yea I really dont enjoy talking and going into these things primarly I love just talking about scripture and about the deep things of God. :-) I know I am digressing from the content of the video, but lets use it to find the truth about what is of the Lord or not. I may be missinformed but didn't John Wesley have strange things happen in his meetings. Thats a great point yes in Church history many bizare things have happened but they are all in within boundaries setup in the scriptures. Here is a great excerpt from the text transcript of the message: Ten Shekels and a Shirt by Paris Reidhead (*I really encourage you to listen to this message)."This is the difference between twentieth century preaching and the preaching of John Wesley. Wesley was a preacher of righteousness that exalted the holiness of God. When he would stand there with the two to three hour sermons that he was accustomed to deliver in the open air and he would exalt the holiness of God, and the law of God, and the righteousness of God, and the justice of God, and the wisdom of His requirements! AND THE JUSTICE OF HIS WRATH AND HIS ANGER! Then he would turn to sinners and tell them of the enormity of their crimes and their open rebellion and their treason, and their anarchy, and THE POWER OF GOD WOULD SO DESCEND UPON THE COMPANY, that on one occasion it is reliably reported that when the people dispersed there were 1800 people LYING ON THE GROUND, UTTERLY UNCONSCIOUS! Because they had a revelation of the holiness of God and in the light of that they'd seen the enormity of their sins and God had so penetrated their minds and hearts that they had FALLEN TO THE GROUND!It wasn't only in Wesley's day. It was also in America, New Haven, Connecticut, Yale. A man by the name of John Wesley Redfield had continuous ministry for three years in and around New Haven. Culminating in the great meetings in the Yale Ball, the first of the Yale Balls' back in the 18th century. The policemen were accustomed during those days, if they saw someone lying on the ground, to go up and smell his breath. Because if he had alcohol on his breath they'd lock him up, but if he didn't, he had Redfield's disease. And all you needed to do if anyone had Redfield's disease was just take him into a quiet place and leave him until he came too. Because if they were drunkards, they'd stop drinking, and if they were cruel, they'd stop being cruel, and if they were immoral, they gave up their immorality. If they were thieves, they returned what they had. For as they had seen the holiness of God, and seen the enormity of their sin, the Spirit of God had DRIVEN THEM DOWN INTO UNCONSCIOUSNESS because of the weight of their guilt! And somehow in the overspreading of the power of God, sinners repented of their sin and came savingly to Christ."from the text transcript of Ten shekels and a shirt by Paris Reidhead. Full TranscriptI was also reading in some of the letters on Revival that Charles G. Finney wrote to many ministers and one touches on the subject of the occourence of people falling down in His meetings. And he draws a very clear line between a falling down over anguish of sin and revelation of God, over the more dubious kind of fanatical excitement that would render the body in a spasmodic enthusasim. "I have by no means done with the subject of excitement as connected with revivals of religion. In every age of the church, cases have occurred in which persons have had such clear manifestations of divine truth as to prostrate their physical strength entirely. This appears to have been the case with Daniel. He fainted and was unable to stand. Saul of Tarsus seems to have been overwhelmed and prostrated under the blaze of divine glory that surrounded him. I have met with many cases where the physical powers were entirely prostrated by a clear apprehension of the infinitely great and weighty truths of religion." - from finney's letter.He also draws a very clear distinction between the use of the mind during these occourences and persists that the intelligent thought patterns should be unhindered during these manifestations but as he would say even:"But the excitement produced when the Holy Ghost reveals God to the soul is totally different from this. It is not only consistent with the clearest and most enlarged perceptions of the intelligence, but directly promotes and produces such perceptions. Indeed it promotes the free and unembarrassed action of both the intelligence and the will." - from finney's letter.Please take the time to read this letter:LETTERS ON REVIVALS--No. 8--There are many other examples from Church History that if looking at in the right light you would realize there is a drast difference better much of the phenomena going on in Chrisitan circles in our day. Well I am sure the same things were happened in the past but they were quickly identified for what they were, they werent labeled, doctrinized and apporoved and promoted as many dubious characters are doing in our day.

....Here is a few quotations from a book called "Charismatic Choas" on Hagin,...First off I'd like to ask, instaed of telling me what some author wrote into a book, why not show me actual Scripture where God has said that what Brother Hagin has taught is false. We know that the Bible was written by Men, through the unction of the Holy Spirit, we know that all the writers spoke in Tongues. We know Paul himself said he was grateful he spoke in Tongues more than those in Corinth, who we also know were doing it out of the Perfect Will of God. So there is no way to contest, that Speaking in Tongues is for Christians yesterday, and today.As for what some of this book you quoted from said, If we do not believe that 'We will have what we say' Then we are calling God a liar..and we know that It is impossible for God to lie. I'll not spend alot of time pushing this subject on you Sir, I understand what its like to want to twist certain scriptures for your own good. I will however keep you in my prayers, and ask my Father in Heaven to reveal his Mighty Word to you. Thank you for the Godly debate, I really enjoy it. I would like however, to talk Scripture, lets not worry about what Hagin says, or what any other teacher says. Lets worry about what our God Above has said in his Holy Written Word. So Let me end asking you this Question, and I mean no offense, just want to know where you stand. Do you believe that Gods Word, the Bible we have today, such as KJV, or smoe of the Newer Translations, are Compltely accurate, do you think that every single Word of it, is correct, and divinely written? Sorry if any of what I've said seems harsh to you Brother, I dont mean it to be, I have never been one to debate much, but I have a Passion for Christ that will always get me to stand up for his Word. Thank you for your time, Mitch Miller

I'll not spend alot of time pushing this subject on you Sir, I understand what its like to want to twist certain scriptures for your own good. I will however keep you in my prayers, and ask my Father in Heaven to reveal his Mighty Word to you. I am not bending the Word of God to my own good. I desire so strongly for the truth of God to be manifest in my life and I am not willing to settle for comprimises of that full revelation of God. The Lord is our teacher and the Holy Spirit will personally guide us into all truth.1 John 2:27 - But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.Do you believe that Gods Word, the Bible we have today, such as KJV, or smoe of the Newer Translations, are Compltely accurate, do you think that every single Word of it, is correct, and divinely written? My personal preference for english translations in the King James Version 1611. There are small varations in most greek and hebrew manuscripts but I would say that the best manuscripts were used in the KJV bible translation. Many argue that the newer manuscripts found that they use for the new translations are more accurate. As for the words yes I believe the orginal languages were divinely inspired and written and that the bibles we have, have that inspiration but I would refrain from every single letter.. there are mistakes or not clear translations of original words but we can have faith in the KJV and other bibles as the Word of God.First off I'd like to ask, instaed of telling me what some author wrote into a book, why not show me actual Scripture where God has said that what Brother Hagin has taught is falsePersonally I have not felt led to look into his writings and especially to look into them just to prove the fallacies in his doctrine. I will try and take a look at some writings and get you more detailed ways that Kenneth Hagin taught false doctrines. Yes I do hope this can be a godly discussion with the intent for both of us and others to get closer to God and understand more about his servants and His word.

I am not adverse to the practice of spiritual gifts. In fact I go to a Pentecostal church and I have experienced the baptism of the Spirit so I understand the other side of the story. However when one goes into the spiritual gifts, one must never forget that there are going to be counterfeits of the gifts as well as false teachers. To ignore that is to ignore scripture and ignore the many warnings.Thank you sister Cheryl to share your heart and testimony about this topic. Also you have shared your resource in a tasteful manner I suggest everyone watches this free video clip from that site: Watch part 1: Look to the Leader - This video looks at the leaders of movements that have veried from the scriptures: Jevovah Witnesses, Mormons, Christian Science, Seventh Day Adventist Church, The Worldwide Church of God, and then goes into movements such as: Word Faith. *(I would note the way the video approaches and teaches on the problem of this subject is not done perfectly or to my taste, but I think its worth watching).EDIT: After watching the entire 30 minute video I would say its not very conclusive and it even misquotes some of the Word Faith preachers, who do teach falsities but I am sure they could have been abit more careful in how they choose the quotes.

Hi again, I was not saying that it isn't totally unimportant what Hagin has said, I realize that we have numerous false teachers in our World today. I myself, grew up around quite a few. And still see more and more with each passing day. We have taken the Bible and watered it down to fit our lifestyles, that we stray from the true Word and allow anyything to go on in many Churches. Homosexuality is accepted in quite a number, Abortion is accepted, the list grows on and on. Many people today try to just ignore some scriptures or twist them to meet their own needs. If you do not like Brother Hagin, thats one thing, but to act as if he is a False teacher, ESPECIALLY when you tell me you have never taken the time to even read one book he's written, then you are stepping over a line. I have heard him, and I know he was annointed to Preach, and Teach, and called at times to be a Prophet. I am concered today that the Body of Christ is falling completely away from our Great Comission. And if you will recall, Jesus Christ said 'Thus it is written, and thus it behoved, Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentence and remission of Sins should be preached in my name in all the world. But tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem untill you be endued with power from on High.' We know that he was speaking of the Holy Ghost, the promise of the Father. We know that on the day of Pentacost, a great outpouring began. And that same Holy Spirit is here for believers today. So I guess the question I have for you all is this, where does what I am saying, differ from what you get out of the Scripture? Where do you not see, the necessity to recieve the Promose of our Father? The Baptism of the Holy Spirit? Jesus told them to wait, they couldn't not be a witness untill they had it. Mitch Mller