"Do you sin?"

KrispyKrittr wrote:
Do you sin, Nile?

Krispy

The short answer: [b]NO!!![/b]

I'll answer possible refinements of the question for clarity.

1. Are you sinning right now?
No. =)

2. Do you plan on sinning again?
No.

3. Do you anticipate sinning again?
No.

4. Is there any commandment of God that you know you do not keep?
No.

5. Do you sin every day?
No.

6. Is your conscience perfectly pure?
Yes.

7. Have you repented of all known sin and conformed your life to the revelation give to you?
Yes.

8. Have you sinned in the past?
Yes.

9. Have you sinned in the past month?
Yes I have unfortunately. This is not a light matter. Within the past month I have rebelled against God and fallen from Grace. I have since repented and turned back to God. There are many causes for fall like this...my faith is new, I am immature, I lack wisdom, I am surrounded by ungodliness, and I am still learning the fundamentals of God. Once my sure foundation is laid, the likelihood of falling away is much much less. (Remember that Peter had flat out denied Christ shortly before preaching the sermon on Pentecost.)

10. Do you love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself, thus fulfilling the law and committing no sin?
Yes.

How would you (being anyone) answer these questions?

Nile

[edit: I reworded the tenth question]

Hmm. I asked myself these questions and realized what a terrible terrible trouble I'm in. I thought I'd share that with you.

First- I answered 1,2, and 3 with No's. I thought this because I didn't think I was doing anything sinful really. However then I got to question 4. And then everything fell to pieces for me. Because I do not love God with all my heart. I didn't pray this morning and I haven't received the grace to love God despite the counsel I've received from other Christians. Therefore in actuality the answers for 1,2,3 were incorrect!
So 5 is true for me... of late. 6. No. Which means I have no power before God. 7. YES (as of now). 8. Yes. 9. Yes, and it is inexcusable. I am also a young Christian with a weak foundation (great sermons about that on this site though!). 10. No.

So. These questions have shed a great deal of life on me, showing me that I have been not living a grace-filled, Spirit-filled life. I am going to repent, and pray. If this thread is still active, I will update you in a week or two, hopefully with victory.
If we confess our sins He will cleanse us our sins. :-)
I really hope that instead of justifying yourself you would really let these questions sink in, and recall the scriptures for those times when your answers aren't what they should be... In Jesus is everything pertaining to life and godliness.

At first, I was going to ignore this, I don't doubt some have.

But, maybe regrettably, I changed my mind.

Krispy, that was unnecessary.

Pride is a struggle we all have, whether we realise it or not.

As it is, I don't know of anyone who has 'arrived, whatever that might be.

Maybe it is a place of total humility.

So, sadly, we just continue to be us, until the light goes on inside and we see what God wants us to be, we stop fighting it, and surrender.

God bless.

[size=xx-small]Do Yo Sin?[/size]

KrispyKrittr wrote:

Pride is the root of everything sinful. If we've conquered sin, then we've conquered our pride. But some have pride in their sinlessness... which is sin after all.

Pride is put to death just like the other sins. I take no pride in this. I didn't set myself free =)

1 John 2:15-17
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

jimdied2sin wrote:

Yes, however, I am not accountable for my sins(you, the christian are not eather) because they are covered.

That is heresy if left unclarified...

Christians are not responsible(liable) to their record of the sins commited.

We are not charged with sin because [b]Rom 4:8[/b] [color=990000]Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute(be charge with) sin.[/color]
Or:
That person's sin will not be held against him by the Lord.

If we are accountable for our sins, then we will not stand on the day of judgment.

As one modern hymn says (in bold) my point well:
Only by grace can we enter. Only by grace can we stand
Not by our human endeavour, but by the blood of the Lamb
Into your presence you call us, you call us to come
Now by your grace we come. Now by your grace we come
[b]Lord, if you mark our transgressions who will stand?[/b]
Thanks to your grace we are cleansed by the blood of the Lamb

Nile wrote:

9. Have you sinned in the past month?
Yes I have unfortunately. This is not a light matter. Within the past month I have rebelled against God and fallen from Grace. I have since repented and turned back to God. There are many causes for fall like this...my faith is new, I am immature, I lack wisdom, I am surrounded by ungodliness, and I still learning the fundamentals of God. Once my sure foundation is laid, the likelyhood of failling away is much much less. (Remember that Peter had flat out denied Christ shortly before preaching the sermon on Pentacost.)

Nile

Hi Nile,

I have a question, are you saying that you lost your salvation (fell from Grace) because you sinned?

I've heared teaching like this before at holiness churches, but I'm not quite sure what you meant by point nine.

Thanks,
Jordan

HomeFree89 wrote:

Nile wrote:

9. Have you sinned in the past month?
Yes I have unfortunately. This is not a light matter. Within the past month I have rebelled against God and fallen from Grace. I have since repented and turned back to God. There are many causes for fall like this...my faith is new, I am immature, I lack wisdom, I am surrounded by ungodliness, and I still learning the fundamentals of God. Once my sure foundation is laid, the likelyhood of failling away is much much less. (Remember that Peter had flat out denied Christ shortly before preaching the sermon on Pentacost.)

Nile

Hi Nile,

I have a question, are you saying that you lost your salvation (fell from Grace) because you sinned?

I've heared teaching like this before at holiness churches, but I'm not quite sure what you meant by point nine.

Thanks,
Jordan

Yes, good question.

First, when I say I "fell from Grace" I mean that God offered me grace to overcome my sin, but I refused it.

What is it I am saved from? Hell? Chiefly, I am saved from the power and domination of sin. Seeing as I became once again a slave to sin ("For you are slaves to whom you obey"), yes I did lose my salvation.

As far as I am concerned, that is all that matters.

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However, others will ask the question (which I believe to be less important), if I died in the midst of this sin, would I be justified of it? That is, did I lose my justification before God?

Although my conviction on this is not watertight (I acknowledge may be wrong), I believe yes, I lost my justification before God.

I can hear the objections already, "What?!?! That means that if you sin one little sin, like a lustful look or an angry thought, and you happen to die in the middle of it, you'd go to Hell!? That's bogus!!"

I don't think it's bogus at all, I think it's a clear message of God revealed in scripture.

Sin is serious.

Yes, one sin will send you to hell.

If you get saved and live cleanly for a long time, but them happen to sin right before you die, guess what: [b]that's a really really bad thing[/b]. There's a reason we are told to [b]finish[/b] the race well. Paul even describes himself as being able to fall away in 1 Corinthians 9:
But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, [b]I myself should become disqualified[/b].

One sin corrupted all of the universe and doomed an entire race.

Is one sin I commit less heinous?

God will justify no one that rebells against Him. That is sin: to rebel against God.

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Our God is merciful, and even though one may sin, there still remains hope in Jesus:

1 John 2:1
And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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Why should it be surprising that it is possible to waver back and forth between God and the world? Especially if ones dedication to God and faith in Him is weak? To do so is extremely careless and extremely dangerous, but it is none the less possible. So it is with Christians who waver between God and sin.

That is the message I see in the Bible.

*sigh*

Krispy, there's a small army of [u]straw men[/u] in your post. You might want to read my post again.

Brother what your trusting in is your works.

I trust in Jesus for mercy, Jesus for grace, and Jesus for the Holy Spirit.

This is legalism you are promoting.

According to Websters Online Dictionary:

Legalism.
1. Strict conformity to the letter of the law rather than its spirit.

No, that is definitely not what I am promoting.

Hey Krispy,
I think you misread his post.
Let's say you're a smoker. And you smoke every day. Then you say "I want to quit smoking". So you buy a nicotine patch. The nicotine patch saves you from smoking. But then you say, well, I'm going to smoke anyway because my friends are here and they are smoking. Did you accept salvation from smoking? No, therefore you lost it.
If that nicotine patch was Nile's works, he would indeed be wrong. But time and time again, we have said that it is the grace of God that keeps us from sin.
Obedience is not legalism! Legalism is not loving God, and trying to abide by the rules without the love.
The justification part is a different issue from salvation. So you could call him on that if you want to discuss it elsewhere....
The message of James is that we are justified by a faith that WORKS. You cannot have faith without works and get into heaven.

Thank you Krispy and Logic for your posts,

And I will only add that the "works" road is surely I hard road to travel.

God Bless,
tonys

Nile wrote:
However, others will ask the question (which I believe to be less important), if I died in the midst of this sin, would I be justified of it? That is, did I lose my justification before God?

Although my conviction on this is not watertight (I acknowledge may be wrong), I believe yes, I lost my justification before God.

I can hear the objections already, "What?!?! That means that if you sin one little sin, like a lustful look or an angry thought, and you happen to die in the middle of it, you'd go to Hell!? That's bogus!!"

I don't think it's bogus at all, I think it's a clear message of God revealed in scripture.

Sin is serious.

Yes, one sin will send you to hell.

It is only when one down right forsakes Christ with impunity and does not care about it, that is when one looses the relationship with Christ.

Therefore, you are in error.

TonyS wrote:
Thank you Krispy and Logic for your posts,

And I will only add that the "works" road is surely I hard road to travel.

God Bless,
tonys

Matthew 7:14
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.