MUST WATCH VIDEO SERMON

Probably this sermon is on Sermonindex already, but i could not find it, maybe it is part of a series and goes by another name. But here is the link to CFC Indias download [url=http://www.cfcindia.com/web/mainpages/video_message.php?issue=youthcamp01&date=y07_03&title=How+God+Selects+And+Prepares+Us]How God Selects And Prepares Us - Zac Poonen[/url]

I must just say this was a incredible message! this is a must listen for every one! excellent for new belivers and young people! I am grateful to be blessed to be able to hear such a message as this, it so encuraged me i praise God for truth preached.

listen/watch prayerfully and with an open heart

God bless you

Christian

here is the sermon on Sermonindex if anyone want an optional download link [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?commentView=itemComments&lid=14961]Click HERE[/url]

I would be very glad if any of you dear brothers and sisters would like to talk about this sermon after you watched, please post how God spoke to you and what stood out to you in this hour.

Christian

Dear brother Christian!

It was a good sermon to hear (and watch).
I agree that it is essential to lose any weights that might slow you down, especially sins which chain you down.

I also agree that we should not go for peace with sin which might haunt you for a long time. Thank God if we battle against sin, we may ask forgiveness if we fail!

Some little thoughts of my own: "There are several ways we might battle sin, do we battle sin because it gives us discomfort? Or do we battle sin because it grieves the Lord? We must not forget what sin is, its missing the target and ours is God! Do we want to get rid of sin because it brings us discomfort? Bad habits might be sin as its not how God wants us to live, but getting rid of the bad habit might still be sin if that getting rid is not driven by the motivation to draw close to God. I remember Leonard Ravenhill say this: 'We sin in our sinfulness' Perhaps he meant the above."

Zac Poonen mentioned true joy only coming from the enduring of the cross. I think he's right, no matter what things I buy or what I look forward to... I know its not going to fill me or make me permanently happy.

Some questions:

Zac Poonen mentioned prayer not being answered. This would be because you don't listen to God, He won't listen to you. I don't know about this to be honest. I also remember Zac saying: so you just find the most righteous person to pray for you and it will happen (something like this) and Zac is saying no, it won't work.

I remember praying for someone who was an unbeliever to show her that God was real. She said she would believe if God showed her and by Gods grace God did something for that person! Sadly she hasn't endured, and is not seeking God.

Also Zac mentioned that that Jesus was not able to heal everyone, he refers to Matthew 13:58. Do you guys think that Jesus prayed for someone and it turned out that nothing happened? I've always imagined it as that Jesus did not even bother to do miracles, instead of trying and failing?

Zac also said something about David not being Gods original plan and the argument is that David was not even born when Saul became king. Gives food for thought, but I find it hard to accept that Gods plans might fail. Or perhaps I misinterpreted it?

Zac also mentioned that God has no favorites. I know that God is no respecter of persons.
I wonder, Jesus did at times took some of the 12 disciples with Him. Is that not God favoring some men to draw closer then others?
Perhaps I misunderstood Zac, perhaps this is a good question. :-)

What does respecting elders/parents mean? Zac talks about respecting a policeman but not putting confidence in that policeman. How can one show respect too an elder if you are not going to follow his advice or be corrected to his ways after a rebuke from him?

As for what the sermon did for me...
I know quite much, but I don't nearly put into practice a lot of what I know. This might be due to halfheartedness, I've seen that when I want (a) I often do (b). I agree that one must be wholehearted, only I can't do that on my own strength. I need God, but my halfheartedness stands in the way often.
It's a good sermon to think about.

Please correct me if I misinterpreted things or said weird things. I'll be looking forward to discuss this sermon with others, especially 'being wholehearted', or in my case.. becoming wholehearted.

Zac Poonen mentioned true joy only coming from the enduring of the cross. I think he's right, no matter what things I buy or what I look forward to... I know its not going to fill me or make me permanently happy.

Yes, i think this was a 100% true statement also, joy that last 356 days and 24 hours every day of the year....

Zac Poonen mentioned prayer not being answered. This would be because you don't listen to God, He won't listen to you. I don't know about this to be honest. I also remember Zac saying: so you just find the most righteous person to pray for you and it will happen (something like this) and Zac is saying no, it won't work.

As i understood this I think Zac was speaking about something on your conciseness you know you should do and dont obey. An example if you feel you should go ask forgivness from someone and you feel this is what you should do, but you dont do it . Instead you make up excuses for not doing it. And I think this is what Zacmeent when saying God will not listen because wedont listen to him.

Zac also said something about David not being Gods original plan and the argument is that David was not even born when Saul became king. Gives food for thought, but I find it hard to accept that Gods plans might fail. Or perhaps I misinterpreted it?

I think you dident misinterpret, but i think also wrong to say Gods plan failed, but rather Saul failed Gods plan for him, or he choose not the way he should. So when he failed God found another....

Zac also mentioned that God has no favorites. I know that God is no respecter of persons.
I wonder, Jesus did at times took some of the 12 disciples with Him. Is that not God favoring some men to draw closer then others?
Perhaps I misunderstood Zac, perhaps this is a good question.

I think we have the same thing here, not that he favored, it just there were three that were fit to follow Jesus into the house, nine dident. I think we can all go with Jesus in to the deeper things, if we allow ourselfes.

But what I really liked and felt in this sermon was Zac saying "this can be you" and "this is for you". We can all fail, but if we seek him with all of our hearts and really decide to go after God, there will be loneliness, persecution, you name it. It will come and is a part of the training. So there was many nuggets in this one, but most of all It was a tremendous encouragement to me. To know It is all available for me if I choose to go after it....

Christian

Dear brother Christian!

As i understood this I think Zac was speaking about something on your conciseness you know you should do and dont obey. An example if you feel you should go ask forgivness from someone and you feel this is what you should do, but you dont do it . Instead you make up excuses for not doing it. And I think this is what Zacmeent when saying God will not listen because wedont listen to him.

That makes sense! I even think that if two people pray the same prayer one might not be heard, because God sees the heart.

I think you dident misinterpret, but i think also wrong to say Gods plan failed, but rather Saul failed Gods plan for him, or he choose not the way he should. So when he failed God found another....

Yes, I would prefer your explanation! I don't want to dive in arguments as... 'did God intended Saul to fail?' or had Saul the chance to succeed in Gods plan for him? Jesus also gives Judas special attention, almost as if Jesus is giving Judas chance upon chance to not be the one that will betray Jesus.

I think we have the same thing here, not that he favored, it just there were three that were fit to follow Jesus into the house, nine dident. I think we can all go with Jesus in to the deeper things, if we allow ourselfes.

It might be such an encouragement to know that its all available. I have made the choice to follow the Lord no matter the cost, still the begin part of the sermon jumped out... about the weights part. Also recently I have reminded that I also said that I couldn't do it (run my life), I wanted the Lord to direct me. I wonder if I have really done that. This actually is a question I have, does one (with big decisions) wait upon the Lord for His answer or do you pray and then choose what seems best? I'm really troubled by God not answering if I need guidance at big decisions, at the same time I don't trust my ability to choose 'best'.

On a side note, I think its a good practice to discuss sermons. Especially how it affects my life and God is dealing with me. :-)

Brother Christian, where are you in this walk with the Lord? I hope you can say that you are wholehearted! If not, what can you do to gain wholeheartedness? What do you struggle with?

Brother Christian, where are you in this walk with the Lord? I hope you can say that you are wholehearted! If not, what can you do to gain wholeheartedness? What do you struggle with?

Thank you for this question,

In my walk after the Lord, I seem to be lacking in many areas, God has been faithful and poited out certain things to me that need to be dealt with. Am I wholehearted? I would say yes, Am I satesfied with my walk? I cant say as Zac in the sermon, he has a very satisfying Christan life, I have not reached that where i can say that in truth.

Other areas I feel a need to improve is my prayerlife, I want to spend more time at the feet of Jesus, I lack in the area of loving the brethren, sometimes i am very prideful, and even when i make some progress in my christian walk i tend to get prideful about that. But as also stood out to me in the sermon "battle it!" and "fight it" even if it takes 10 years to get victory. I am in the battle and God is faithful, he is able to save to the uttermost!

I come to think of i believe Zac says in another sermon it took him 16 years to get victory over this one sin, i think he spoke about anger. But he got it after 16 years! I believe thisis the wholeheartedness we need. No matter the cost the time the effort or consequence.... we do it, I think of A.W Tozer, " if it mens a cross then take the cross "

And I have taken that decision.... I actually took right when i was born again, I said, No matter what happens I will never leave this... I have failed many times, but I by Gods grace is able to get back every time,forgetting that which is behind me and stretching forward to Jesus.

I to benefit a lot from discussing sermons and the word. And also I was very encouraged because i feel very lonely at times, spiritually that is and I was very blessed by what brother Zac shared here about that Jesus probably was very lonely since he was the only wholehearted follower of God in that time , and about Joseph being 10 years in prison but in the end he became a man useful to God

I too am very grateful that God is dealing with me! how good and faithful our God is, alelujah!

Today is a new day under his wonderful mercy and grace, and we have an opportunity to press on to wards perfection, lets make the best of it by his grace

Christian

Today is a new day under his wonderful mercy and grace, and we have an opportunity to press on to wards perfection, lets make the best of it by his grace

Amen!

Thank God He is able to finish what He started. :-)