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Art Katz -- The Love of the Truth

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eagleswings May 20, 2004

Here are a few segments from Art Katz' video: THE LOVE OF THE TRUTHThe unifying theme is the misuse of God“That an intractible enemy bent upon Israel’s destruction could ever be placated by a negotiated peace in the seductive hope of a middle-eastern Arab-Israeli prosperity is a lie. A lie that is employing “God” as legitimizing the possession of the land without any real regard to Him in its conduct or purpose as a nation. “I don’t want you to miss that. What is a lie? A lie is when you sanctify or seek to justify your possession of the land on the basis of prophecies that speak about a return and a possession WITHOUT ANY TRUE REGARD TO THE GOD WHO HAS SPOKEN THOSE WORDS and are simply employing them as a justification for your possession. “Such fraudulence makes for deception, and deception makes for disaster as we shall soon enough, I believe, have occasion to witness.“My question is: TO WHAT DEGREE ARE WE AS THE CHURCH EQUALLY, OR COMPARABLY, DECEIVED IN OUR OWN MISCONCEPTION AND MISUSE OF GOD? If Israel is misusing God to justify it’s possession of the land, to what degree are we equally in a lie in the misuse of God in the vindication and justification of ourselves? “I don’t think I have yet recovered from the Full Gospel breakfast in Germany and the Swedish speaker in his luxurious shirt – I’m sure you would know the company that produces it. Its emblem was all over. A good week’s salary at least – and he got up by saying, “AND THE LORD SAID TO ME THIS MORNING …’” and I leaned forward to hear what the Lord said to him, and as quickly fell back in a slump in my seat for the Lord had said NOTHING. It was only, what shall I say, a manner of speaking, to give to one’s sharing a certain kind f weight it would not otherwise have had. HOW DARE WE SAY “The Lord has said to me…” when He has not said. Merely to employ it is an artifice, as a kind of religious expediency that we hear so often and so frequently that we no longer take note. “How many things that pass for “prophecies” are so bogus and so questionable or so clearly out of the flesh AND NO ONE SAYS A WORD as they are spoken publicly and we just nod and go on thinking that we have not paid for that. You need to know that when you take liberties with the issue of Truth and allow things to go forth that are not questioned or brought to the light you do not go on as you were before. It brings an increasing deadening to one’s spirit so that you become less able to make discernments and corrections the next time, until finally you’re totally incapable at all. “The love of the Truth requires a vigilance for the Truth. And that is daily. And in the last days, I would say hourly and moment by moment. That’s expensive. But there’s no cheap way; because if we lose that sense, we’ve lost everything. We’re hollow. We’re gongs and cymbals and we have no effect on the society about us. What a melancholy, pathetic end for the Church that has turned in on itself and whose last existence is mere succession of services. Who have not even impressed our own children with the seriousness of what we are about, let alone the world.” Art goes on to speak of “our haste in celebrating clairvoyant trivia as ‘the gift of prophecy’ –worse, as the prophetic office itself -- We can’t even distinguish between the gift of prophecy and the office of prophet, and I can’t think of more deadly confusion.”: He speaks of:“Our haste in construing flamboyance as “annointing” “The gift of gab as “preaching” “Religious manipulation as “the moving of the Spirit” “Amplified noise as “worship” “Shallow, boisterous camaraderie as “fellowship” “All of which “makes me suspicious whether our foundation is really upon the costly cornerstone laid in Zion.”In addition to other matters, he raises the issue of “prosperity” and sees in it an inherent rejection of suffering and the Cross.Sorry I haven’t the time to transcribe more. Hope I’ve conveyed a taste of what’s in it. This video is powerful and it will cut.Roger

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rookie May 20, 2004

Hi Roger.I am trying to get something going in the lounge according to the same thoughts. How easily we are willing to be deceived. The love of the truth will reveal God's desire for us. The truth will also reveal the deceptions of satan and his world. 'See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, redeeming the time, because the days are evil." Eph 5:15-16In ChristJeff

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ProphetDan76 Jun 3, 2004

I have been very much affected in my life by the ministry of Art Katz. The teaching is something that will truly ruin you for church as usual. I have heard people who can look through the fog of our current "Christian" experience and lay out what the truth of the matter is but Art has a way of completely and totally laying the whole thing bare. The Lord has gifted him to see through to the truth and the vocabulary to express that truth. Listening to and accepting how the message the Lord has spoken through Art will cause you to see the bankrupt nature of our current North American Christian experience.Apostolic Foundations and True Fellowship are two of Art's books that I have read and they are both on my recommended list but remember, once you have seen the truth you may never be the same again and you may be ruined for regular church.In Him For His Glory,Dan

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Malachiah Jun 3, 2004

Malachiah: Greetings to all the witnesses of our Lord Jesus Christ. It seems good to write some lines in the midst of these Art Katz speakings. The Love of the Truth is the great need of Jew and gentile alike in this day. Truth as been hidden from the hand of man for two great millenniums but is now arising. The Truth is the Word that branches from the hand of the saints in the coming ofthe Lord. John 17:17-20. Unless the UNSPEAKABLE gift of the Word is revealed, all are yet deceived. So i work on this thread below, weaving into Arts speakings and Rogers writing.******* Here are a few segments from Art Katz' video: THE LOVE OF THE TRUTHThe unifying theme is the misuse of God Malachiah: the misuse of God is any writing that does not know that the Word is God. And the misuse of God is any speaking that does not pour out upon what the hand has written in the living scripture.*******“That an intractible enemy bent upon Israel’s destruction could ever be placated by a negotiated peace in the seductive hope of a middle-eastern Arab-Israeli prosperity is a lie. A lie that is employing “God” as legitimizing the possession of the land without any real regard to Him in its conduct or purpose as a nation. Malachiah: Israel was scattered into the nations in order to be dealt with and come to the revelation of the Word of the oath and the holiness of it in the land. None should return without coming to this revelation.*******“I don’t want you to miss that. What is a lie? A lie is when you sanctify or seek to justify your possession of the land on the basis of prophecies that speak about a return and a possession WITHOUT ANY TRUE REGARD TO THE GOD WHO HAS SPOKEN THOSE WORDS and are simply employing them as a justification for your possession. Malachiah: brother Art uses an interesting Word here....."sanctify". Truly nothing is sanctified except by measures of the Word of the Truth. No one can sanctify anything without the measures of God's oath in hand. The Word of the oath is the truth and whatever we write upon in the Word becomes sanctified. Again I refer you to John 17:17-20! Without the sanctifying truth in hand the Jews can return to Israel but only to find the curse. The blessedness of the land is only found by those that can measure rightly by the writing of the anointed Word.*******“Such fraudulence makes for deception, and deception makes for disaster as we shall soon enough, I believe, have occasion to witness. Malachiah: we have witnessed it and shall. *******“My question is: TO WHAT DEGREE ARE WE AS THE CHURCH EQUALLY, OR COMPARABLY, DECEIVED IN OUR OWN MISCONCEPTION AND MISUSE OF GOD? If Israel is misusing God to justify it’s possession of the land, to what degree are we equally in a lie in the misuse of God in the vindication and justification of ourselves? Malachiah: there is a church that is called Mystery Babylon. She speaks but doesn't have the Word in hand. she is a great harlot that decieves the whole world by her preaching of "jesus". The fact of His Presence does not branch from her hand. The true church must separate from her by writing forth in the unspeakable gift. Nothing but the Word of the truth separates from the lie and all that have not this revelation in handare still fully in the lie even when they speak such marvelous things as what Art spoke here.*******“I don’t think I have yet recovered from the Full Gospel breakfast in Germany and the Swedish speaker in his luxurious shirt – I’m sure you would know the company that produces it. Its emblem was all over. A good week’s salary at least – and he got up by saying, “AND THE LORD SAID TO ME THIS MORNING …’” and I leaned forward to hear what the Lord said to him, and as quickly fell back in a slump in my seat for the Lord had said NOTHING. It was only, what shall I say, a manner of speaking, to give to one’s sharing a certain kind f weight it would not otherwise have had. HOW DARE WE SAY “The Lord has said to me…” when He has not said. Merely to employ it is an artifice, as a kind of religious expediency that we hear so often and so frequently that we no longer take note. Malachiah: Amen.*******“How many things that pass for “prophecies” are so bogus and so questionable or so clearly out of the flesh AND NO ONE SAYS A WORD as they are spoken publicly and we just nod and go on thinking that we have not paid for that. You need to know that when you take liberties with the issue of Truth and allow things to go forth that are not questioned or brought to the light you do not go on as you were before. It brings an increasing deadening to one’s spirit so that you become less able to make discernments and corrections the next time, until finally you’re totally incapable at all. Malachiah: everything spoken beyond measure of the WORD IN THE HAND OF THE SAINTS falls into this category.*******“The love of the Truth requires a vigilance for the Truth. And that is daily. And in the last days, I would say hourly and moment by moment. That’s expensive. But there’s no cheap way; because if we lose that sense, we’ve lost everything. We’re hollow. We’re gongs and cymbals and we have no effect on the society about us. What a melancholy, pathetic end for the Church that has turned in on itself and whose last existence is mere succession of services. Who have not even impressed our own children with the seriousness of what we are about, let alone the world.” Malachiah: this is why we are commanded to take up our cross daily and follow him. To take it up is a matter of the hand. The mouth that just speaks about it is deceived still. All have been deceived but now is the time to enter the apostles fellowship by the laying on of hands by which the Word activates in your hand. The Word of the cross must be taken into hand daily.*******Art goes on to speak of “our haste in celebrating clairvoyant trivia as ‘the gift of prophecy’ –worse, as the prophetic office itself -- We can’t even distinguish between the gift of prophecy and the office of prophet, and I can’t think of more deadly confusion.”: He speaks of:“Our haste in construing flamboyance as “annointing” Malachiah: the anointing is the Word we write. The mouth testifies of it but is not the anointing. the anointing is Christ the Word. If He is not being revealed in hand then there is no anointing. All preachers that speak fo the anointing apart from this revelation actually are movign in the anti anointing spirit, not matter how it makes to feel or what results you think you see!*******“The gift of gab as “preaching” “Religious manipulation as “the moving of the Spirit” “Amplified noise as “worship” “Shallow, boisterous camaraderie as “fellowship” “All of which “makes me suspicious whether our foundation is really upon the costly cornerstone laid in Zion.” Malachiah: be suspicious no more......the corner stone is the Word. Is the line in hand? *******In addition to other matters, he raises the issue of “prosperity” and sees in it an inherent rejection of suffering and the Cross.Sorry I haven’t the time to transcribe more. Hope I’ve conveyed a taste of what’s in it. This video is powerful and it will cut.Roger Malachiah: Greetings Roger. Peace to Art Katz if by chance you are reading this. I prepare a gift for you and perhaps shall deliver it at Atonement feast.

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