A MUST LISTEN TO :Carter Conlon/Neil Rhodes

It was a priviliage and honor to spend time with these two brothers beyond the conference.When Pastor Conlon returned to NY he shared a message that everyone who listened to the conference as well as attended the conference needs to listen to. If you listen close you'll hear two extremes in the church, both are false, the one is the prosperity gospel, the other is the works gospel of self abasement filled with false humility and man generated repentance and holiness. Listen to it and recieve instruction from the heart of God.

http://www.tscnyc.org/sermons.php The message is called: Beware Of The Angry Watchmen

Thank you brother will defenitely be listening to this ... And just in case, thank you brother for all that you did over the course of last week.

Had heard from someone that Times Square Church had set aside some special time to pray over the conference ...

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This was a excellent message. I believe a word from God. I encourage all to listen and allow God to deal with you.

God bless,
Igy

This message made me tremble. Let us take heed of these things if we are going to dare to take up the word of God and speak in His name in the days to come. There is true revival and there is false revival, God help us to know the difference.

In Christ,

Ron

Brother Carter talks about a false "holiness revival".
Does anybody know if anythig at the Revival Conference might of prompted that message? And what is the false holiness he is reffering to?

Have been thinking about this verse lately:

"Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves."

[i]...let each esteem other better than themselves[/i]

You have to rember that the parisee had an outward form of godilness but inwardly was full of dead mens bones, Jesus said of the scribes that they made the way to God difficult. We are only changed as we see Jesus, we go from glory to glory. As a minister, or preacher if you will, if I can't bring a clear picture of who Jesus is, or what His doctrine is, lifting Him high in the sight of the congregation, than I have failed.

And what is the false holiness he is reffering to?

It's a man centered attempt at becoming holy. Usually has a strong outward code or ethic in dress as well as disposition. Instead of saying that one should dress modestly and allowing the Holy Spirit to bring a sense of personal conviction, we say dress modestly and this how and what you wear and how you dress in order to fit in and show that you are holy. The same is true about disposition, we say be gentle, humble, kind...etc...these are the workings of the Holy Spirit, His fruit, humility is nothing more than perfect yeildedness to the Spirit of the Living God in obedience. But we tell people "if you act a certain way than you are humble" and so the list goes on. The false holiness revival is a manward attempt at being holy. Like Paul said in Galatians,O'foolish galatians having begun in the spirit are you now made pefect in the flesh?And I know he was talking circumcision, however the principle is the same.
The narrow path that Jesus was talking about was was a life fully devoted to beholding Him and following Him, the change that occurs in us happens very naturally as we look upon Him.

Just heard it. I'm still trying to process it together, but what I gather from his prophecy was:
1. The modern prosperity gospel along with many other movements based upon counterfeit spiritual experience is reaching the point where the fruits of it's corruption, licentiousness and greed will be made manifest.
2. God will draw forth his children that have been trapped within these movements and bring them into the true church (praise God!)
BUT!
3. Satan will rise up a counterfeit holiness revival that is nothing more than no. 1's mirror image, a system of legalism that tears down the Body rather than build it up.

That is indeed scary. What we here at SI have been praying for could actually become the guise for Satan's final assault on the bride.

Call this paranoid, but I just had this thought: If an "anti-revival" based on legalism dressed up as "holiness" is indeed coming, than those of us who have struggling in "club frustration" (i.e., being in a lukewarm church while having a heartburden to get people motivated to seek personal and corporate revival leading to increased prayer, devotion and evangelism) are in for one very hard time.

Double post. Sorry

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This is a VERY important message. This could be the most important message you ever listen to if you aspire to preach repentance. I have been hearing this same thing for some time now.

ANGER is the enemy of every revival. [u]Anger[/u] is not anointing- it is the fires of hell. The wisdom that comes down from above is first pure and peacable and gentle- full of good fruits and mercy.

In fact, I spoke a very similar message on Sunday night from Numbers 11 as God had spoken to me at the conference that the danger we face today is an lust filled congregation that will not hear from God- and an ANGRY watchman. Moses smote the rock out of anger. This is always the danger ministers face in the midst of a perverse generation. We could misrepresent God at a critical time and we need to allow God to deal with that tendency in us before He can rightly use us.

He is not sending us to the 'well' but to the 'sick'. If we are not of the right temperement we cannot rightly deal with His people. God wants to use many young ministers, but they are loose canons that need to get a handle n their anger. Let me echo and affirm the witness of what the Holy Spirit is saying in the Churches right now. I was hearing almost the same thing- God is witness.

This message came at a perfect time.
It seems for the last few months, I have been seeking God, and I have been coming into what seemed to be a brick wall, in a sense, because I make mistakes in my walk with God, to see his heart for me and my life, actually excited about giving God my heart, and his future for me, and my returning once again to his mercy.

This message showed me that The enemy points to us, and tell us there is something wrong with your garment, you are not clean, you can't approach the king now. Literally the enemy producing lying signs and wonders (Pastor Carter talked about Lies Within and Without) to show me that God is actualy angry with me, Bless God the enemy and his LIE is exposed. God Loves Me!!!

The Video is now availible.

http://media.tscnyc.org/wmv/2071028S1.asx