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Calling any Christian theoretical physicists to explain....

sermonindex Nov 4, 2007

Recently I had an enlightening conversation with my son, who explained in his own words, 'the omega theory' (theoretical physics).

Immediately, I could see how it ties in with scripture and Jesus calling Himself the Alpha and the Omega, and the new heaven and new earth.

The humanity of Jesus as the Son of God is not something my son disputes, but he is looking for a form of words that avoids sounding 'religious'.


If anyone knows what they're talking about, it might be a helpful for evangelists to undertand some of the ideas this theory purports, in this day of scientific scepticism.

One word of caution if I may. To comply with my son's terms of reference, please bear in mind these parameters, which I believe the theory permits:

There is one God, who is necessarily expressed by His Universe. He is not outside it and it is not outside Him. Agreed?

And, we agree the constituent parts of the Universe are not all visible. Nor are all invisible parts spirit, by which I mean, however you choose to define a created spirit like an angel, it is not to be confused with the energy in an atom (for example), or anti-matter (for another example) (and I know there are many more).

There... that's about as far as I can go to express this request.


Over to you - ladies and gentlmen. And thank you, in advance. :-)

T
theopenlife Nov 4, 2007

Not sure what you're talking about but it sure sounds interesting! ;-)

Reminds me of something Augustine of Hippo wrote:

"Since, then, You fill heaven and earth, do they contain You?Or do You fill them with a surplus left over, beyond their containing? Then where, once heaven and earth are filled, does the overflow of You go? ... Are You not entire everywhere, though nothing can hold the entire You?"
- Confessions 1:3

sermonindex Nov 5, 2007

Reminds me of Job chpt.s 38-41 - with hopes that it ends as chpt 42.

sermonindex Nov 5, 2007

Dorcas,

"Omega Theory" is, quite frankly, humanism. Human technology will expand exponentially to the point where we create a sort of supercomputer that will be able to compute every piece of matter in the universe - down to the smallest particle. From this data, it will be able to perfectly exrapolate the past and predict the future. All possibilities will be known to this entitiy - technology becomes a god capable of resurrecting the dead...

In essence, we create technology, technology ultimately becomes God, and God brings us back to life.

"In his controversial[3] 1994 book The Physics of Immortality, Tipler claims to provide a mechanism for immortality and the resurrection of the dead consistent with the known laws of physics, provided by a computer intelligence he terms the Omega Point and which he identifies with God. The line of argument is that the evolution of intelligent species will enable scientific progress to grow exponentially, eventually enabling control over the universe even on the largest possible scale. Tipler predicts that this process will culminate with an all-powerful intelligence whose computing speed and information storage will grow exponentially at a rate exceeding the collapse of the universe, thus providing infinite "experiential time" which will be used to run computer simulations of all intelligent life that has ever lived in the history of our universe. This virtual reality emulation is what Tipler means by "the resurrection of the dead."

"...Prof. Tipler's 2007 book The Physics of Christianity analyzes the Omega Point Theory's pertinence to Christian theology.[8] In the book Tipler identifies the Omega Point as being the Judeo-Christian God, particularly as described by Christian theological tradition. In this book Tipler also analyzes how Jesus Christ could have performed the miracles attributed to him in the New Testament without violating any known laws of physics, even if one were to assume that we currently don't exist on a level of implementation in a computer simulation (in the case that we did, then according to Tipler such miracles would be trivially easy to perform for the society which was running the simulation, even though it would seem amazing from our perspective)..."

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Tipler]Source - Wikipedia[/url]

sermonindex Nov 5, 2007

Corey,

Thank you for your thoughts. I have to admit there wasn't a computer in sight in the way it was explained to me, so I was surprised by that.

My son is more interested in theory about what the Universe is and how it works, as this is becoming to him a way of understanding God, perhaps, and God is okay with that, I believe.

I don't go along with God being reduced to a computer, either, but I'm happy that my son's literalism enables him to refuse the thought of any more than one 'universe'. To him, any additional universe means that neither of them are singular, for by its very nature, there can be only one 'uni' verse, whatever that nature may be when fully definied.

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