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ChrisJD Nov 8, 2007

When God has given me a broken heart I'm overwhelmed with a sense of my own spiritual need.

When I live a broken Christian life, there is a spirit of compassion about my life because I can forgive much because I know how much I have been forgiven. I always esteem others better than myself.

When I serve God with a broken heart I have a dependant spirit and I recognize my need for others.

When I serve God with a broken life, I've learned the secret of denying myself.

When my heart is broken before God, I have a motivation to serve others. I'm motivated to be faithful before God, and to make others a success.

When my heart is broken before God, I have a deep desire to promote other believers. I have a sense of my own unworthiness. And I'm so thrilled that God would use me in any kind of a ministry or any kind of a fellowship. I'm always eager for others to get the credit. And when my heart is broken, I rejoice, when others are lifted up. And I never defend myself.

When my heart is broken before God, I have a heart attitude that says "I do not deserve to be part of this fellowship. I know that I've got nothing to offer God, except the life of Christ that is flowing through my broken life."

And when I'm broken before God, I'm so humiliated by how much more I have to learn, I'm not concerned about the self-life, and I'm willing to take risks to become vulnerable, and to be close to others, and to open my life to love other people.

And when I serve God with a broken heart, I always take personal responsibility. And I can see where I have done wrong, in any kind of a situation.

And when I'm broken before God I always receive criticism, with an humble and with an open spirit. I'm not concerned, I'm concerned about being real. And what they care about and what matters to those who are broken, is not what others think, but it's what God knows about them. And I'm willing to die to my own reputation.

And when I live a broken Christian life, I'm willing to be open and transparent with others, as God will direct me. And whence I'm broken before God, I don't care, who knows or who finds out about me. I am willing to be exposed because, I have nothing to lose in my relationship with God.

So when I serve God with a broken heart, I'm always quick to admit my failures, and I want to seek forgiveness, whenever it is necessary.

When I live a broken Christian life, and I'm under the conviction of God's Spirit, I'm able to acknowledge the specifics about my sin. I'm grieved over the cause of my sin, and I'm grieved over the root of my sin.

And when I'm broken before God, I truly and genuinely repent over my sin, and the evidence in the fact is that I want to forsake that sin.

When I live a broken Christian life, I want to take the initiative to be reconciled when there has been a misunderstanding, or a conflict in any kind of a relationship. I want to race to the cross, I want to see if I can get there first no matter how wrong the other person my have been.

And when I'm broken before God, I compare myself with the holiness of God. I sense the desperate need of the mercy and the grace of God. I always want to walk in the light.

And when I serve God with a broken spirit, I realize that I have a need of a consistent, cleansing of heart and repentance.

And when I'm broken before God, I continually sense my need for a fresh encounter with God the Holy Spirit.


But when there is pride in my life as a Christian, I always focus on the failures of other Christians and other fellowships.


When there is pride in my life, I've got a very self-righteous spirit. I've got a critical spirit. I have a fault finding spirit. And I look at everyone else's faults through the microscope, but I always look at my own faults through the telescope. And I always look down upon the lives of other people.


When there is pride in my life I have an independent and a self-sufficient spirit. I'm protective of my time, I try to protect my reputation and my rights as a Christian, and I focus on the deficiencies of other Christians.


When there is pride in my life I want to be served by other Christians. I've got a desire that... to be successful, I want to advance the self-life.


And when there is the sin of pride in my life, I've got this drive, I want to be appreciated, I want to be recognized, I'm offended and I'm wounded when other Christians are promoted, and I have been overlooked, because of what I have done.


When there is pride in my life, I've got this inner attitude, and this is what I said, that this fellowship is very privileged to have me and my gifts and all I think as what I can do for God.


And when there is pride in my life I'm confident, about how much I've learned of the scriptures, and how far I have gone in my relationship with God.


And when there is pride in my life, I always keep people at a distance.


When there is pride in my life, I wanna blame other people.


When there is pride in my life, I'm unapproachable.


When there is pride in my life, I'm defensive when I'm criticized by other Christians.


And when there is the sin of pride in my life, I'm so concerned to be respectable, I'm concerned about what other people think of me, and I try to protect my image and my reputation.


And when there is pride in my life I find it very difficult to share my spiritual needs.


When there is the sin of pride, I wanna be sure that no one else find out that I have sinned. And I try to cover up sin. And I have this instinct to try and not to reveal it.


And when there is pride in my life I always want to make sure that no one else finds out when I have sinned. and I try to cover it up. And I find it very very difficult to say "you know I'm wrong, will you please forgive me".


When there is pride in my life, I'm concerned about the consequences of my sin, I'm remorseful over my sin, simply because I've been caught, that I have sinned before God and sinned before man.


And when there is pride in my life, I always wait for others to come and ask for forgiveness, when there is a misunderstanding or a conflict, in my relationship with God.


When there is pride in my life I try to compare myself with other Christians, and other believers and other fellowships. And I always think that I'm better than them.


When there is pride in my life I'm blind. I become blind to my own heart condition.


When there is pride in my life I don't think that there is anything in my life that I need to repent of. I don't think that I need revival. Oh but I'm so sure that everyone else needs revival in my relationship with God.


- The preceding was transcribed from a message given by Gerhard Du Toit titled "Principles for the Anointed Prayer Life".


[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=15871&commentView=itemComments]Principles for the Anointed Prayer Life by Gerhard Du Toit[/url]

sermonindex Nov 8, 2007

Oh, this is so good! Thank you for sharing it, brother Chris.

This is something I need to read [i]often[/i] on my knees for it reveals the hidden pride that so easily creeps in and I am often so blind to.

I find myself to be so dependent on God and needy for Him to break me and purge all pride away, for if I attempt to 'break' myself, I find pride subtly coming in at what [i]I[/i] have done in humbling myself! Oh for a greater revelation of our God and His greatness, for in light of the awesome character of our holy God, how [i]can[/i] there be any pride in us?

My desire is that the only 'i' that is found in my life be the 'i' in the Chr[b]i[/b]st in me!

"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but [b]Christ liveth in me[/b]: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20

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hmmhmm Nov 8, 2007

Yes, thank you brother for transcribing this.... this is a "gem" of a sermon.

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crsschk Nov 8, 2007

Thank you brother

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PreachParsly Nov 8, 2007

My desire is that the only 'i' that is found in my life be the 'i' in the Christ in me!

I like that. That reminds me of that old saying "there is no 'I' in team." :-D I don't know if the two quotes relate, but nevertheless it's a good quote.

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ChrisJD Nov 9, 2007

"When my heart is broken before God, I have a motivation to serve others. I'm motivated to be faithful before God, and to make others a success."

[i]motivated... to make others a success[/i].

What if this were a true, a pure, an abiding, and a strong motivation in our hearts?

What if we became radical in our devotion to serving each other and seeing each other succeed in the will of God?


Wow.


Appreciate you all,


Chris

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hmmhmm Nov 10, 2007


When I live a broken Christian life, I want to take the initiative to be reconciled when there has been a misunderstanding, or a conflict in any kind of a relationship. I want to race to the cross, I want to see if I can get there first no matter how wrong the other person my have been.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Nov 10, 2007

Hi ChrisJD...

This is a very good and timely message for my own life, Brother. I'm so hungry to lose myself in Christ! I want to be rid of self and count all of this world as dung...and yield my entire being to the surpassing knowledge, love and compassion of the Living God! When I first met the Lord, I told Him that I would "trade all that I am and all that I will ever be" just to know Him and be His friend. And isn't that all that really matters? I just want to know Him and introduce Him to others. Yet we can become so entangled by other things that hinder the knowledge of God that can only come from intimately knowing Him through prayer fellowship and the Word.

Let us return to the simplicity of our newfound faith! Combine this with our knowledge of God from years of intimacy, and the things of this Earth somehow "grow strangely dim."

Thank you for this reminder.

:-)

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ChrisJD Nov 10, 2007

Brother Chris,


"I'm so hungry to lose myself in Christ! I want to be rid of self and count all of this world as dung...and yield my entire being to the surpassing knowledge, love and compassion of the Living God!"


I know what you mean! Seeing how so many times the self-life causes me to fail. Am coming more and more to the internal conviction that there is nothing good in my flesh. And seeing more and more how vain is this earthly life.

"Therefore I hated life; because the work that is wrought under the sun is grievous unto me: for all is vanity and vexation of spirit."


Ecclesiastes chapter 2 verse 17(KJV)

"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."


Ecclesiastes chpater 12 verse 13(KJV)

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ChrisJD Nov 10, 2007

Brother Christian...

"I want to race to the cross, I want to see if I can get there first..."


That thought, of [i]racing[/i] of rushing, speeding, to the cross.


Reminds me of how, was it John, that out-ran Peter the tomb?

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awakenwithin Nov 11, 2007

When I live a broken Christian life, I want to take the initiative to be reconciled when there has been a misunderstanding, or a conflict in any kind of a relationship. I want to race to the cross, I want to see if I can get there first no matter how wrong the other person my have been.

brother you thank you for this.. SOmething we want wait for other to say sorry. But you are right we should desire to run to the Cross. I am have been wrong, My heart not desired to run. My my flesh died and Christ live in me.
Thanks you Brother.
May all grow in this grace
Charlene

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awakenwithin Nov 11, 2007

"When God has given me a broken heart I'm overwhelmed with a sense of my own spiritual need."


Oh sweet Jesus I ask of you to brake me, please let me be broken. I lack to my sense of you this last two weeks, I need my God, I am so needy. Please brake me again bring face down. That I may run to you alone. Bring all my hurt pain everything to you. brake me I plea.

"When I live a broken Christian life, there is a spirit of compassion about my life because I can forgive much because I know how much I have been forgiven. I always esteem others better than myself."

Let the richness of Christ be seen in all its glory. Bring to the cross, that I will die, so I may live. Teach to forgive, walking a like of forgiveness. Free me from bitterness and hardness of heart. Free from missunderstanding and hurt. Free, and help to always be willing to for no matter what it is. Teach to alway esteem others. Make it known the ways I don;t. Show when I think if myself more then others. Show the ways I can speak kindly of others. Let no bitter heart, keep from speaking of others. Let me love all, and say kind words to them.
help with my brother, that I will keep learning was to speak into his life. To put him before me.
Those in my bible study to speak of the Grace of God into their lives.
To speak kindly of my Pastors
To speak kindly to my sisters and brothers

"When I serve God with a broken heart I have a dependant spirit and I recognize my need for others."

What are ways I am needy and not willing to give?
Where am I dependant and not looking for others needs.
With my health I have made it a idol and had pity. repent of my wrong heart. Giving up, lack of trust in God. Sad, not oeying with trusting God
Putting trust in family, cause worry and fights in the family
Need to Run to Jesus and think of ways I can help my brother
Clean the house, cook, help in any way I can
Need a willing heart to see him better then me.

"When I serve God with a broken life, I've learned the secret of denying myself."

To cross I go to die, Let me die daily
of my ways my rights. My ideas My comfort
my thoughts My reason My...
I repent of trying to get my ways, and not obeying God,

"When my heart is broken before God, I have a motivation to serve others. I'm motivated to be faithful before God, and to make others a success."

What motivation do I have to serve others?
I have little desire to serve some of my friends.
There some I desire to serve more then others?
I repent of lack of motivation to serve to long desire and love to so.
To make other success, I love to do this when it is someone I love and get along well, with. But those that have hurt me I need to repent I really don;t work hard to make them a suucceful. But words or action, I often pray. But need to be willing to speak and do more for those that I may not be best friends with. To have a hearts to make all brothers and sister no matter who they are, even they are wrong and in sin, to pray and have grace. To not judge who I will serve and not,

"When my heart is broken before God, I have a deep desire to promote other believers. I have a sense of my own unworthiness. And I'm so thrilled that God would use me in any kind of a ministry or any kind of a fellowship. I'm always eager for others to get the credit. And when my heart is broken, I rejoice, when others are lifted up. And I never defend myself."

I repent I have had pride, in some parts of my life, I have not given credit to others as I should,.. Show me where I can give credit to and who.

"When my heart is broken before God, I have a heart attitude that says "I do not deserve to be part of this fellowship. I know that I've got nothing to offer God, except the life of Christ that is flowing through my broken life."

Help me to see I don;t deserve to part of this Church, nothing to offer, but Christ in me. Wow That is is huge! As going into a new Church to have a heart as that will be good. Not think I am better then I am! Nothing but a child of God.

"And when I'm broken before God, I'm so humiliated by how much more I have to learn, I'm not concerned about the self-life, and I'm willing to take risks to become vulnerable, and to be close to others, and to open my life to love other people."


I am willing to take the risk and get to know others?
I repent I have played it safe the last few months with not reaching out to any new friendship. Help me to take the risk and help me to be honest and vulnerable with others

"And when I serve God with a broken heart, I always take personal responsibility. And I can see where I have done wrong, in any kind of a situation."

Please keep my eyes open to any of my sins. Please keep open and willing to say I am sorry and take full responsibility for my wrongs.
Please show even now of any wrongs I have done, help to take action and say I am sorry.

"And when I'm broken before God I always receive criticism, with an humble and with an open spirit. I'm not concerned, I'm concerned about being real. And what they care about and what matters to those who are broken, is not what others think, but it's what God knows about them. And I'm willing to die to my own reputation."

Help me to open to receive criticism
I confess I am closed and unwilling to receive criticism from my brother. I become upset at his. We have many different views. May I be able to receive with grace.
May I have a open a humble heart to all who come to be to show a sin, or a question

"And when I live a broken Christian life, I'm willing to be open and transparent with others, as God will direct me. And whence I'm broken before God, I don't care, who knows or who finds out about me. I am willing to be exposed because, I have nothing to lose in my relationship with God."

Amen, please God let me hid in false hood. Let me alway be real and open.

"So when I serve God with a broken heart, I'm always quick to admit my failures, and I want to seek forgiveness, whenever it is necessary."

To say I am sorry to my brother!

"When I live a broken Christian life, and I'm under the conviction of God's Spirit, I'm able to acknowledge the specifics about my sin. I'm grieved over the cause of my sin, and I'm grieved over the root of my sin."

Please most hight God show me specific sins daily
I see my lack of self control with not eating anyting that has suagr in it. Being on the computer to much. Not calling my little brother and sister as much as I should. Having fear of man. Gossip.

"And when I'm broken before God, I truly and genuinely repent over my sin, and the evidence in the fact is that I want to forsake that sin."

Help to trun and hate sin.

"When I live a broken Christian life, I want to take the initiative to be reconciled when there has been a misunderstanding, or a conflict in any kind of a relationship. I want to race to the cross, I want to see if I can get there first no matter how wrong the other person my have been."

AMen Amen, Teach more and more to live this in my life, daily

"And when I'm broken before God, I compare myself with the holiness of God. I sense the desperate need of the mercy and the grace of God. I always want to walk in the light."

Let cry out for more grace more mercy, help to be holy as you are holy

"And when I serve God with a broken spirit, I realize that I have a need of a consistent, cleansing of heart and repentance."

Help me to live a life of repentance, please show any area I have become cold and not having repentance in. Show any area I think is not of need of repentance. let your truth set me free. Bring light into my heart.

"And when I'm broken before God, I continually sense my need for a fresh encounter with God the Holy Spirit."

Jesus please keep my heart ever desiring more and more everyday, To long to love you more and more Make this my hearts cry and deep understanding of you.. Come and take my heart and make run after you.


"But when there is pride in my life as a Christian, I always focus on the failures of other Christians and other fellowships."

Help to point out God grace and his working in others
Show where I have focus on my brothers and sister short coming, change any wrong in me in doing this.


"When there is pride in my life, I've got a very self-righteous spirit. I've got a critical spirit. I have a fault finding spirit. And I look at everyone else's faults through the microscope, but I always look at my own faults through the telescope. And I always look down upon the lives of other people."


Help to take the log out of my eye first
Change my heart if there is any fault finding sin in me. Show me when my heart goes down that path. Help to not think I am better then anyone. Humble me daily


"When there is pride in my life I have an independent and a self-sufficient spirit. I'm protective of my time, I try to protect my reputation and my rights as a Christian, and I focus on the deficiencies of other Christians."

I repent of tryint to protect my reputation, God is able to do that.


"When there is pride in my life I want to be served by other Christians. I've got a desire that... to be successful, I want to advance the self-life."

Show is there is any self in serving?


"And when there is the sin of pride in my life, I've got this drive, I want to be appreciated, I want to be recognized, I'm offended and I'm wounded when other Christians are promoted, and I have been overlooked, because of what I have done."

I repent of this heart, God change me in any wring thinking, Humble me brake me.


"When there is pride in my life, I've got this inner attitude, and this is what I said, that this fellowship is very privileged to have me and my gifts and all I think as what I can do for God."

thankful of Gods gift


And when there is pride in my life I'm confident, about how much I've learned of the scriptures, and how far I have gone in my relationship with God.


"And when there is pride in my life, I always keep people at a distance."

I have been not as active I as was before, although there are many friends and people I meet with, I have failed to keep some people at a distance. God help to reach and love them.


When there is pride in my life, I wanna blame other people.


When there is pride in my life, I'm unapproachable.

Help to alway be approachable and easy to talk with, help to truthful and honest with others. Kind and understanding


When there is pride in my life, I'm defensive when I'm criticized by other Christians.

Help and forgive for being defensive against my brother, and other when they come against me, help to have grace.

"And when there is the sin of pride in my life, I'm so concerned to be respectable, I'm concerned about what other people think of me, and I try to protect my image and my reputation."


"And when there is pride in my life I find it very difficult to share my spiritual needs."

Willing to share


"When there is the sin of pride, I wanna be sure that no one else find out that I have sinned. And I try to cover up sin. And I have this instinct to try and not to reveal it.


"And when there is pride in my life I always want to make sure that no one else finds out when I have sinned. and I try to cover it up. And I find it very very difficult to say "you know I'm wrong, will you please forgive me".

Don;t let me cover my sins, let me be honest.
with my family .. There has been times I haven't been honest with my family

"When there is pride in my life, I'm concerned about the consequences of my sin, I'm remorseful over my sin, simply because I've been caught, that I have sinned before God and sinned before man."

Let be sad that Christ did not get the glory


"And when there is pride in my life, I always wait for others to come and ask for forgiveness, when there is a misunderstanding or a conflict, in my relationship with God."

repent did this,


"When there is pride in my life I try to compare myself with other Christians, and other believers and other fellowships. And I always think that I'm better than them."

put other better then me


"When there is pride in my life I'm blind. I become blind to my own heart condition."

keep my eyes open, Show any blind aras in my life I don't see my sin


When there is pride in my life I don't think that there is anything in my life that I need to repent of. I don't think that I need revival. Oh but I'm so sure that everyone else needs revival in my relationship with God.


- The preceding was transcribed from a message given by Gerhard Du Toit titled "Principles for the Anointed Prayer Life".

In Christ
charlene

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ChrisJD Nov 11, 2007

"And what they care about and what matters to those who are broken, is not what others think, but it's what God knows about them. And I'm willing to die to my own reputation."

Lord, I have been proud, and arrogant, and assuming, self-seeking, self-saving, and presumptuous.


I have been afraid of what others would think of me. I have wanted others to think I was great. I have feared man more than God. I have been arrogant in speaking to others about You. I have sought to protect myself before men, even using my knowledge of Your word to do it. I have hidden my pride. I have presumed upon your grace. I have tried to protect my image and whatever reputation I thought I might have. I realise that most of that image, of thinking I was someone special, was probably made up in my own mind.

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hmmhmm Nov 12, 2007


ChrisJD wrote:
"And what they care about and what matters to those who are broken, is not what others think, but it's what God knows about them. And I'm willing to die to my own reputation."

Lord, I have been proud, and arrogant, and assuming, self-seeking, self-saving, and presumptuous.


I have been afraid of what others would think of me. I have wanted others to think I was great. I have feared man more than God. I have been arrogant in speaking to others about You. I have sought to protect myself before men, even using my knowledge of Your word to do it. I have hidden my pride. I have presumed upon your grace. I have tried to protect my image and whatever reputation I thought I might have. I realise that most of that image, of thinking I was someone special, was probably made up in my own mind.


Lord I have also been a man of a proud heart, i have seeked my own glory and honor from men, i have been protective of my rights and my feelings and my own things.
[i]And when there is pride in my life, I always keep people at a distance.


When there is pride in my life, I wanna blame other people.


When there is pride in my life, I'm unapproachable.


When there is pride in my life, I'm defensive when I'm criticized by other Christians.[/i]

Lord forgive...

[i]And when there is pride in my life I find it very difficult to share my spiritual needs.

When there is pride in my life I don't think that there is anything in my life that I need to repent of. I don't think that I need revival. Oh but I'm so sure that everyone else needs revival in my relationship with God.[/i]

Lord please revive me, let me come to experience in reality your resurrection power, let me see the risen Christ, and let me se myself as you see me. Forgive me Jesus.

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broclint Nov 15, 2007

I am verily Guilty as charged, Oh Lord who knows my sitting down and my rising up; and understands my thought afar off… who is a discerner of the proud intents of the heart….

Thank you brother ChrisJD for this post and all those posting on this thread for being so open with your confession....

Oh God let this message bend me, mould me, shape me, till all can see Jesus always, only, in me. It has not been so… and I thank you for such a blinding revelation of your holiness and the uncleaness that so easily clings to this flesh.

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Areadymind Nov 21, 2011

If there was ever a sermon preached from which I recognize my own lack as a believer it is this one. How I wish there was just some "application" switch I could flip from the "pride" position to the "brokenness" position... Every time I listen to this, I honestly just feel frustrated. I want to ask brother Gerhard, how? How do I live this life in perpetuity? I recognize the truth of every statement, the validity of each of his concerns, I even know "how" in some technical and doctrinal sense. No matter the resolve I have each day to apply these truths, even through prayer and pleading with the Lord I find that sometimes even my desires and prayers stem from the same pride of which Gerhard speaks of.

How I long to be clothed upon and covered with the full righteousness of Christ in reality...not just forensically. Even by posting this...still the focus is on me! Please forgive this foible.

Yet I happened upon another sermon here on SI that I think is helping me with the spiritual psychology of it all. I have listened to it a number of times and I think, in some ways, it positively dovetails with Gerhard's statements. Pastor Tim Keller seems to delve deeply into the anatomy of the problem and conflict that Du Toit is touching on. The Sermon is called "Nakedness & The Holiness of God." In it, I think I am finding some hope for understanding exactly what is wrong with me at the fundamental level because I have engaged in sin.

I hope others can be blessed by this as well, and encouraged. I honestly felt like, "Where has this sermon been my whole life?"

Here is the link:

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=22141&commentView=itemComments

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Sree Nov 21, 2011


And when I serve God with a broken spirit, I realize that I have a need of a consistent, cleansing of heart and repentance.

And when I'm broken before God, I continually sense my need for a fresh encounter with God the Holy Spirit.

When you are truly broken where is your argument of savation by only Faith or by only Faith + work. There is no more argument. All you realize is I need consistent cleansing of heart, which means every day I need to be perfected and repent to serve God and every day I need a fresh Encounter with Holy Spirit.
In short it is no longer one day Baptism of Holy Spirit, it is everyday baptism of HolY Spirit.

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