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U.N. report: Urgent Action Needed On Sever Climate Change

sermonindex Nov 17, 2007


http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/11/17/spain.climate/index.html

sermonindex Nov 17, 2007

This is really something else about these glaciers melting. They say that it's been happening for years but in the 1990's it began accelerating:

"You can literally sit there and watch it retreat," Thompson told a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

"As the Peruvian ice fields disappear, sources of irrigation and hydroelectric power will dry up," he said. Other consequences include a more rapid rise in sea levels, speeding the flooding or even destruction of low-lying islands and coastal areas.


"I expect to see absolutely no glaciers in the Swiss or European Alps by the end of the century," he added. "The huge valleys of the Himalayas will be completely deglaciated."


Glaciers are shrinking not only in area but also in thickness. In Alaska, they are losing an average of 6 feet (1.8 meters) of thickness a year, Anthony Arendt, a glaciologist at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, reported last month in the journal Science. That's more than twice the annual rate observed from the 1950s to the mid-1990s.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0821_020821_wireglaciers.html


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crsschk Nov 17, 2007

Another point of view ...

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20486&forum=48&3] Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’[/url]

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crsschk wrote:
Another point of view ...

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20486&forum=48&3] Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’[/url]


There may be some truth to that I'm sure but I still believe there is a global warming problem.Sometimes I like to watch the Discovery channel and there are alot of problems like drought ect..I live in Florida and were having a drought problem. The lakes are drying up and you can compare by looking at the photographs of what it used to look like and how it is today and there is a huge difference. Those are just a few things that I am seeing.There is a town in Tenessee right now that has no water.


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ccchhhrrriiisss Nov 17, 2007

...and here is [url=http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3751219&page=1]another point of view[/url] from some of the scientists who were part of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and were "collectively" quoted in Al Gore's [i]An Inconvenient Truth[/i]).

It seems that the debate is all but settled -- except in regards to science. The "environmentally conscious" politicians seem to be the only ones who feel that the "debate is over."

:-(

P.S. - The weather in Texas has been unseasonably mild all summer. We had record rainfall and much lower temperatures than normal. Parts of the Southern Hemisphere are [url=http://my.telegraph.co.uk/reasonmclucus/november_2007/al_gore_wrong_again.htm]experiencing record low temperatures[/url] too. According to some friends at NASA, this is merely reflective of a weather cycle -- and not global warming.

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ccchhhrrriiisss wrote:
...and here is [url=http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3751219&page=1]another point of view[/url] from some of the scientists who were part of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and were "collectively" quoted in Al Gore's [i]An Inconvenient Truth[/i]).

It seems that the debate is all but settled -- except in regards to science. The "environmentally conscious" politicians seem to be the only ones who feel that the "debate is over."

:-(

P.S. - The weather in Texas has been unseasonably mild all summer. We had record rainfall and much lower temperatures than normal. Parts of the Southern Hemisphere are [url=http://my.telegraph.co.uk/reasonmclucus/november_2007/al_gore_wrong_again.htm]experiencing record low temperatures[/url] too. According to some friends at NASA, this is merely reflective of a weather cycle -- and not global warming.


How do we know though if maybe the scientist do not have something to gain from this? Aren't we just grabbing articles again like Joyce Myers supposed toilet?

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Smokey Nov 17, 2007


Coming from a part of the world that is sub zero for 5-7 months a year, I vote yes to this warming thing. I do believe that we all have a part to play in being as careful as possible not to harm our environment, however God is STILL in control, and all things will work themselves out according to HIS will and purpose.

Blessings Greg 8-)

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ccchhhrrriiisss Nov 17, 2007

Hi glorytoglory...

How do we know though if maybe the scientist do not have something to gain from this?
Yes, this could go both ways. However, the difference might be with how the environmentalists are pushing an agenda. Within the ABC News article, the scientists there actually SUED to have their names removed from both the UN reports [u]and[/u] the film from Al Gore ([i]An Inconvenient Truth[/i]). They are not pushing an agenda that calls for greater government regulations to certain corporate or private entities. But yes, this could be said of scientists on BOTH sides of the issue.
Aren't we just grabbing articles again like Joyce Myers supposed toilet?
The difference is that the articles that were quoted in the Joyce Meyer thread were based upon rumor and neglected to cite any sources. Someone finally posted an article that reflected that the rumor might have been purposely misleading (that, in fact, Joyce Meyer did not PAY for a $23,000 toilet, but received a GIFT of an antique cabinet [referred to as a commode] worth about $23,000). The articles cited here simply present experts with an opposing perspective (including some that were falsely included within the study listed in the initial post).

:-)

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ChrisJD Nov 18, 2007

Smokey,

"Coming from a part of the world that is sub zero for 5-7 months a year, I vote yes to this warming thing."

Thanks, that made me smile :-) :-)

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crsschk Nov 18, 2007

It took me a minute ... :-P

They might be up for a trade in Phoenix, AZ

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JoeA Nov 18, 2007

Global warming in the Bible:

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

;-)

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What about all of the lack of rain though like here in Florida, forest fires in California, more hurricanes and tornadoes causing so much more damage because of the elevated temperatures in the ocean? Here in Florida we lose crops every year because of the lack of a frost. Aren't those signs of global warming?

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crsschk Nov 18, 2007

forest fires in California

We have them all the time, especialy in the summer. Actualy, for this area it was one of the most mild summers I can recall, having lived here for close to 40 years.

I don't know that it proves anything one way or the other however. We still have nuculear weapons pointed at each other and that didn't change because the rhetoric died down ... My, that could be taken either way I suppose. The only point I know is that I don't know, find most of the whole idea a bit suspicious and the rediness to jump to conclusions ... That is always the problem in many things.

The Lord is still in control, He has His hands on the throttle of human affairs, that I am certain of.

And times and seasons.

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