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Does God Make the Handicapped?

sermonindex Nov 28, 2007

Exodus 4:10 And Moses said unto the LORD, O my LORD, I am not eloquent,
neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant:
but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.
4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man’s mouth? or
who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not
I the LORD?
4:12 Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee
what thou shalt say.

Where do handicaps come from?

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MSeaman Nov 28, 2007

Handicaps are a result of sin entering the world...the world was perfect in the beginning.

But don't ask me the exact Scripture.

sermonindex Nov 28, 2007

Where do handicaps come from?

Usually a bad stance when you swing.

Krispy

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MSeaman Nov 28, 2007


KrispyKrittr wrote:
Where do handicaps come from?

Usually a bad stance when you swing.

Krispy

Krispy, you just crack me up. :-P

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BenWilliams Nov 28, 2007

chandras wrote:

Exodus 4:10 And Moses said unto the LORD, O my LORD, I am not eloquent,
neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant:
but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.
4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man’s mouth? or
who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not
I the LORD?
4:12 Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee
what thou shalt say.

Where do handicaps come from?

Hey chandras, let me see if I can answer this at least a little bit.

There is the basic principle that when sin entered the world, man was tarnished by it, and as a result his body began somewhat to start failing in areas.

But what we must remember is that man's gene structure was perfect, Adam & Eve's children procreated, and there was no problem with that because with perfect gene structures, there are no ill effects.

The first thing I will show you is this:

[b][color=FF0000]Genisis 6:8-9

8But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

9These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and (perfect in his generations,) and Noah walked with God.[/color][/b]

If you notice the highlighted portion in verse 9, it shows an interesting thing, it says that Noah was perfect in all his generations.

Now many people have formed many beliefs off of this, but I think it simply means that from Adam to Moses, they maintained purity before God concerning their bodies, and as a result he was perfect in all his generations.

Ok, having said all that, it shows the issue of sin and how it affects men's bodies and causes impurity. However, there is one event in history that was the main catalyst towards destroying the bodies of man and it's gene structure.

This event was the flood, when the earth was flooded, it destroyed the atmosphere of the earth, it destroyed all kinds of vitamins and minerals that man needed to maintain his gene structure. So once that happened, ever since that point in time, man's gene structure has been rapidly deteriorating.

So the sole root of the issue is the sin of man, and the judgment upon the cause is the main destroyer of man's body.

You can see the truth of this very simply by looking at the average lifespan of a human before the flood, and then watch as that deteriorates after the flood.

I hope this helps a little bit, it has all been caused by the sin of man.

sermonindex Nov 28, 2007

Thanks sharing your views.

what do you think the following passage.

John 9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his
birth.
9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man,
or his parents, that he was born blind?
9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but
that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

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BenWilliams Nov 28, 2007

chandras wrote:

John 9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his
birth.
9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man,
or his parents, that he was born blind?
9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but
that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

I believe Jesus was dealing with a common belief of the day, and that was that if a man had a physical disability, blindness or some other, that it was because of that man's sin, or that of his parents.

This belief was related to a passage of the old testament in Ezekiel I believe where it talks about how the sin of the father is counted toward the son as judgment.

So Israel had formed a belief that in every instance, that was the case, but the Bible never said that God would strike them with ailments, it simply said it would be counted.

So Jesus stuck his finger right into the heart of this "wives tale" of sorts, and says, "it has nothing to do with that at all, it has to do with God getting glory".

I don't believe that it is God's will that people are born blind or lame, that would be cruel, God's will was never for sin, but for life and truth. But because of man's sin, it set in motion events that affected even those who were innocent of that sin, i.e. neither the man nor his parent's sin.

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Koheleth Nov 28, 2007

Where do handicaps come from?

This is one of the looming questions that every thinking soul must face and answer. The Scriptures do give a clear answer.

I do not know your personal motivation in asking such a question, but it should be noted that a person's attitude behind asking such a question often influences the answer they come to.

But, to be brief, many Scriptures teach clearly and consistently with Psalm 139, that every person is knit together by God, fearfully and wonderfully made. Therefore, what are called "handicaps" (as well as all other configurations) are specially created by God to be used in his great and glorious plan. Of course, as all can easily testify, we do not always see the greatness or the glory in it, but we know if we watch long enough, we will.

God bless you in your continued searchings.

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JaySaved Nov 28, 2007

Thank you Koheleth for that response. I agree with you.

sermonindex Nov 29, 2007

This is a really searching question, and there have been some great responses. My answer would be "Yes....and no".

Yes, because every soul is His, and He has allowed some people to be born with, or acquire some handicap.

No because, as others have said, this is a general result of the fall.


Scientifically it is now inevitable that disease and deformity etc should increase in the human population as a whole.

Death and deformity often begins on the genetic level, through "mistakes" and damage to our genetic makeup. Presumably these mistakes just didn't happen before the Fall. Even afterwards it took a long time for men to die. Then the average lifespan began to decrease from hundreds of years to a few hundred in the generations after the Flood, then to 120 or so maximum.

Blessings

Jeannette

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