For years I preached against alcohol...but more I have read the bible I cant really find scripture that says DONT drink, but drink in moderation.
What is your take on alcohol from the bible?? Is it a sin to drink living in the USA than a different country. Or has American christians adopted a mans tradition that says alcohol is sin??
Food can be a sin if overeaten...eating should be done in moderation.
Brother/sister, obviously you haven't been around, because this subject was widely discussed recently here, and caused devisions and strifes. A very dear brother, stopped writing for some time because of that.
I think it is good to read the old thread:
we now have the new wine, no need for the old ;-)
Yea, I was gonna suggest we dont even go here. This was a hotly contested topic a few weeks ago, and it seems it never comes to a good end.
Paul said it best when he was discussing a similar topic:
[i]"...let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind."
This thread should just die a quick and painless death. Sorry Brent.
Krispy
PS Brent, I agree with your conclusions, by the way. Just wanted you to know that it's nothing you said that has prompted me to discourage this thread.
tears of joy...I respect your thoughts and the same time I havent been on this site in a while. I dont believe in cutting out certain topics because of someones emotions.
I did get to read alot of the posts earlier this month...
I want to add someonething that I heard years ago...A pastor was praying for a minister who was addicted to cocaine. There were thousands of people in attendance. The pastor looked at the congregation and said "what are you looking at those of you who cant put the fork down". Another words the minister was addicted to a drug, but ALOT of christians are addicted to food.
There is a MUCH GREATER problem with christians overeating in PUBLIC, and PRIVATE.
I read alot about moderation in alocohol consumption. Then I read about WINE...whats the difference in WINE, beer, "mixed drinks"??? They all have alcohol in them some more then another.
I was wondering how many have a problem with drinking alcohol and have a their own problem with eating to much or eating unhealthy food???
I have rarely ever seen a christian eat all healthy food. Talk about a witness!! I cant believe some christian would slam another for drinking alcohol in moderation and then pull upto Mcdonalds drive???!! or heart attack drive thru.
The foods we eat is so bad for us...WHERES the conviction for unhealthy food. Unhealthy food affects our family and our witness in public.
Sorry Krispy...I just had to share my thoughts on this.
Its sad to see a christian codemn another christian for moderation of alcohol while eating a candy bar in hand.
Hello Brother brentw, I would just like to ask you what is wrong with a candy bar? :-) Man I love candy bars, they taste so good. :-) I thank God for them, and I thank God for food as well, Yes, for a Big Mack as well. :-)
God bless
Hey liveforGod...I personally dont have a problem with eating a candy bar...yes, its not healthy and has no or very little nutrional value at all.
My point was for those who eat unhealthy and condemn others for drinking alcohol in moderation...and their concerned about the witness it brings.
Yes, long live Mc'DS!!
Alright Brother. :-) God bless you, I personally do not fell led of the Lord to talk about alcohol right now, but I agree with what you are saying about condeming other, I believe that we have no right to condem anybody, let the Holly Spirit do what it does, condem. God bless you brother
Hey liveforGod...I personally dont have a problem with eating a candy bar...yes, its not healthy and has no or very little nutrional value at all.
Actually it has been proven that a piece of dark chocolate a day is very healthy for you. It helps to reduce the amount of bad cholesterol in your system. In France it is quite common to eat a piece of dark chocolate with a glass of uh... er... red wine, and this combination has been shown to be as effective in reducing cholesterol as most cholesterol lowering drugs, and without all the added side effects.
Krispy
Krispy...I love your post!! Candy bar in one hand and the other a glass of wine. :-D ;-)
I was thinking of Charles Finneys lectures on revival...you know someone wants to qoute "sipping saints"...I'll qoute Finney.
Finney said you're a backslidden if you drink tea or coffee because they are a stimulant, and we dont need to drink them. Finney also said we're backslidden if we eat pleasurable foods that have No nutritional value. :-)
a glass of uh... er... red wine,
jajajajaja Krispy you are hilarious.
Coffee... oh man, I live in Seattle, I'm under condemnation!
By the way, I've been reading a book of DL Moody Sermons printed in 1880, and he often preaches about the need to go into pubs and drinking places and preach the gospel. He also preached about how drunks are some of those who need to hear the gospel the most.
I understand why prohibition was very important to some Christians, but it also appears that they would rather take the easy road to 'solving' the problem instead of going into drinking dens and preaching the gospel. Prohibition as a movement seems kind of faithless in some ways, relying on Laws to do what the Gospel should be doing.
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