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Catechism and simularities of the Original US Constitution

sermonindex Jan 15, 2008

1/15/2008 5:23:16 AM
The first line in catechism is, "What is the whole duty of man". Answer "to Glorify God and enjoy HIM for eternity". Our forefathers of the US constitution, most being born again believers, through shed blood of Jesus Christ, attempted to show their allegiance to Jesus Christ in everything they were and did. Their attitude was that, in HIM we live and move and have our very being. Many of them were ministers of the gospel. Having such a faith in HIM and knowing that a unless the Lord build it we labored in vain. Our forefathers set out to chart a course lead by the Holy Spirit, not out of legalism, but to ordain a constitution with a set of precepts, within the teachings of God Word and HIS laws and make them their laws. Write them on their doorposts if you will. An attitude of thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

A form of catechism in the constitution as the objective is appartent. Over a period of 200 plus years we have now come to a place where men have been so blessed with materialism and with that materialism blessing and so blind as to not know the source of where the blessing came or know the purpose of the blessing was given. Many have gone the way of Baal. How did it happen? It is very evident, over a period of time, we forgot to teach our children the source of the blessings and the purpose for which they were given. They worshiped the created things more than the creator. Now we have moved into a new 21st century catechism. We have built a bridge into the 21st century. We have thrown out many of the original precepts and our children have grown in the ignorance of not knowing the source or the purpose of the blessings. As a matter of fact we have many organized movements that have enacted many contrary precepts. Many have a mindset that the source of the blessings is not even relevant and these precepts are also used when selecting a leader to enforce, make and preserve the original precepts. The general consensus now is, it doesn’t really matter what the leader believes and all those teachings and all the orginal precepts should be discarded when selecting a leader. The slogans are we need a change, it's the ecomomy stupid. It is truth that these precepts do not save us but only the shed blood of our savior Jesus Christ can atone for our sins. However after one realizes their helplessness apart from HIM and after they received HIS atonement for their sins on the cross, why would they not realize that the Father sent HIM and why would they not have confidence in HIS precepts and HIS laws? It was Jesus' pleasure to do the will of the Father.

We have many men and women who have become so worldly educated that they cannot see the need for honor and reverence for Jesus in all things, even in the public square. The churches looks and searches for effective evangelism programs to call to lost to repentance in Christ and with the same mouth give in to the lie from the devil that separating HIM is good and just and christian like. The Pastors have become so intimidated by the lost members on the church rooster and children who have never been taught that HE must have supremacy in everything. The Pastors are fearful of their jobs and there pay check and most pastors only look at how many people they have on the church rooster or how many new members they are able to turn in to the main denominational headquarters on a report and to appear to be doing evangelistic work even though they are not. But we know regardless of whether the members claim HIS supremacy in their everyday life or that HE is worthy of their praise. This statement would cause us to ask the question if they had truly had a heart change.

Most Pastors in this 21st century dare not preach anything anymore along these lines, as our forefathers did in the past history, because these lost church members will either non verbally or otherwise communicate to them if they do such from the pulpit, there their Shepherdship is history. God help us in this area. Even on Christian forums the threat to silence the message of HIS supremacy in everything goes on. The communication is, stay off the subject and don’t speak about HIS supremacy and most of the many members will join in. If the point of contention is that the potential leader is not giving HIM supremacy, then it is a valid point of discussion and then should not the contention be discussed. The truth is that a potential leader who does not even submit to proclaiming HIS name form the rooftops be received by a born again believer and should not a red flag up to a Spirit filled Christian in that lack of submission. However just because one does claims they are a Christian means nothing unless the words are proceeded by and followed by fruit for evidence. The early disciples were faced with beatings and ultimately death and still lifted HIS name and proclaimed HIM as KING and we today we can’t even face a little criticism and stand and speak the truth in the face of opposition, because the devil has told the lie that if there is opposition in proclaiming HIS supremacy in all things, getting along the others, regardless of what they say, whether it be truth or not, is the main priority and then the devil says compromise is the priority is unity, another lie.

When a leader is being selected and HIS character and integrity are being discussed, wherever that might be, many will say, I’m not worried about their allegiance to the Lord, that has nothing to do with whether they can lead a nation. To me, this statement indicates that the person that is making the statement, might as well make an attempt to just jerk GOD off the throne, which if they weren’t so deceived and blind, they would know that’s not possible. They are just cutting their own throat.

Then you hear it is impossible to discuss politics and the old saying goes, two things we don’t need to discuss, religion and politics. Let me ask this, who was it against claiming Jesus was King and giving HIM supremacy. If you will read in God’s Word with me, it was the Pharisees. here is your king, Pilate said to the Jews, but they shouted, "take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!"
Shall I crucify your king?" Pilate asked. We have no king but Caesar," the chief priests answered. The Pharisees couldn’t discuss Jesus’ authority and politics at the same time, why, because they gave HIM no authority.


If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. He is a rewarded of those who diligently seek HIM. In all your ways, acknowledge HIM and HE will direct your paths.

I appreciate the opportunity to proclaim HIS name and I am well aware that it is the Spirit of Christ that prompts me to do that. Because without HIS SPIRIT, I would not even be on SI or anywhere proclaiming HIS name, I would have to many worldly thing to do that were more important to me. Not I but Christ. The life I now live, I live by faith in the SON of GOD who loves and gave himself for me. I do not frustrate the grace of GOD, if righteousness came by the law, Christ died in vain.
God Bless
Moe_mac

sermonindex Jan 16, 2008

Moe, I think I understand what you're saying.

I'll read it again, so that I get the full message.

Prayer Brother - that's all I know is prayer.

Pray Without Ceasing - we're told.

God Bless you also.

sermonindex Jan 16, 2008


HE_Reigns wrote:
Moe, I think I understand what you're saying.

I'll read it again, so that I get the full message.

Prayer Brother - that's all I know is prayer.

Pray Without Ceasing - we're told.

God Bless you also.

I made an attempt to convey some things that the Holy Spirit should produce in a christian. Not some things that will produce the Holy Spirit. Although I attempted, maybe I failed and it was rejected because I focused more on the bi-products and not only than the source (Jesus). Every good and perfect gift comes from above. Is it a lack of love for the brethren to make such statements about the lack of Americans to give HIM supremacy, I don’t feel it is. I think truth is truth, whether it hurts of not, and it still love. I have made the following comparison before. If I were in a burning building and the only way my rescuer could get me out was to drag me out by the hair of the head, would it be lack of love if someone did it in that manner? Would it be love to let me perish and save me the pain of dragging by the hair of the head. Is agreeing with anything that does not recognize HIS supremacy unity or is it compromise? Do I my myself have any perfection apart from Christ? NO, Far from it, and it goes against my flesh to give anyone besides myself supremacy in anything. Only He can give us the power to give HIM supremacy in anything. I certainly was not boasting in my own righteousness or anything that comes from within my own power, but only in HIM. When I do give HIM supremacy in anything HE is always worthy of much more. What a peace I have when I do. I think you are right on in praying, but he also calls us to speak along with the praying. There has been a great lack of speaking and that’s why things have got to where they are in America, I believe. We are to speak even in the face of great controversy, just as the disciples before us did. We are not going to win the peace prize speaking truth but we will win a prize worth much more.
Thanks for the reply
God Bless
Moe_mac

edit: If I might add one more thing. It is great to study and discuss God's Word and it is manna to our soul and when we have been nourished on that manna to strengthen us to do the work he called us to do on the earth, do we just sit around not do the work and keep eating and get fat and pray.
Give us this day our daily bread, to do what? Forgive our trespasses as we forgive others. Right before that," thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. I can assure you HE will have supremacy in heaven and there will NOT be ANY what has God got to do with said IT ON anything, then. Now you tell me, where are these people with this attitude at, in their walk with the Lord and shouldn't we be telling them?
Matt 6:9-13

9 "This, then, is how you should pray:
"'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10 your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us today our daily bread. 12 Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.'
(from New International Version)


sermonindex Jan 17, 2008

Moe, I hope I didn't anger you by saying that I had to read it again.

It was early for me to be up, I'm not a morning person.

I understand you want the LORD to be first in all things.

Forgive me if I made it sound as if I didn't understand you.

LORD Bless.
With prayer.

Annie

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