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sermonindex Jan 18, 2008

Jer. 2:32 Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.

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murdog Jan 18, 2008

Freecd,

"Yet my people have forgotten me days without number"

I am guilty of it.

I was thinking the other day, if I had a child that was as disobedient as I have been to God, how truly grieved I would be for having such a son.

Can you even fathom the longsuffering he has towards us? It is truly unbelievable.

He would absolutely be glorified to throw the whole lot of us in hell when you think how unworthy we are. Nothing do we have to cling to except the cross of Christ.

Murray

sermonindex Jan 18, 2008

Can you even fathom the longsuffering he has towards us? It is truly unbelievable.

Amen... I am proof of that. If I was God I would have killed me a long time ago.

Krispy

sermonindex Jan 18, 2008

Too much football?

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MrBillPro Jan 18, 2008


KrispyKrittr wrote:
Can you even fathom the longsuffering he has towards us? It is truly unbelievable.

Amen... I am proof of that. If I was God I would have killed me a long time ago.

Krispy

Hey buddy at least you would be amongst good company. :-)

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tjservant Jan 18, 2008


murdog wrote:
Freecd,

"Yet my people have forgotten me days without number"

I am guilty of it.

I was thinking the other day, if I had a child that was as disobedient as I have been to God, how truly grieved I would be for having such a son.

Can you even fathom the longsuffering he has towards us? It is truly unbelievable.

He would absolutely be glorified to throw the whole lot of us in hell when you think how unworthy we are. Nothing do we have to cling to except the cross of Christ.

Murray

Nothing do we have to cling to except the cross of Christ.

The lyrics to "The Old Rugged Cross" came to mind when I read this.

Thank you Jesus

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MrBillPro Jan 18, 2008


murdog wrote:
Can you even fathom the longsuffering he has towards us? It is truly unbelievable.

He would absolutely be glorified to throw the whole lot of us in hell when you think how unworthy we are. Nothing do we have to cling to except the cross of Christ.

Murray

Many modern theists hasten to assure us that they're not happy about Hell's existence, that they don't want anyone to be sent there. I believe that these protests represent flickers of human conscience, damped down by the religious impulse but not wholly suppressed.

One believer I've seen express these flickers of conscience is C.S. Lewis. In The Problem of Pain, Lewis writes about Hell that "There is no doctrine which I would more willingly remove from Christianity than this, if it lay in my power" (p.119) and that "I too detest it from the bottom of my heart" (p.120).

This is an astonishing admission, considering Lewis' main argument for Christianity hinges on his claim that humans have an innate moral sense which tells them the difference between good and evil. If that is true, then hasn't Lewis essentially admitted that the moral sense condemns Hell as an evil thing? Isn't this a concession that the moral sense, which he claims leads inevitably to Christianity, actually pushes back against one of that religion's central ideas?

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Miccah Jan 18, 2008

Guilty

sermonindex Jan 18, 2008


MrBillPro wrote of CS Lewis

his claim
Wouldn't this be the same knowledge of good and evil which the Bible tells us man fell into?

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MrBillPro Jan 18, 2008


dorcas wrote:
Wouldn't this be the same knowledge of good and evil which the Bible tells us man fell into?

I was just quoting what "I felt" C.S. Lewis was saying in reference to what he says in his book, I don't feel he was literally speaking out of both sides of his mouth. I just feel as theologians they really need to be careful as to what they say because some folks can take this completely wrong and do, basically I am saying here, no Pastor has a patent saying some things folks might get confused with, and they "all" need to be more careful on what they say, thats all, not wanting to make a big deal out of this. :-)

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SimpleLiving Jan 18, 2008

Guilty as charged.

What I'm currently striving for is to plan my day around my relationship/time with the Father, instead of planning my relationship/time with the Father around my day. When I do this, the whole day seems to flow so much better. Things fall into place more when I give the Father top priority.

I believe in having fun and enjoying myself but I'll do a mental check. Have I spent time in the Word yet? How much time do I spend doing other things (tv, football, etc.,) compared to how much time I spend in the Word and in fellowship with the Father? Then I'll do an attitude/enthusiasm check. I can sure have a great time doing things I consider fun! How does that compare to how I feel about spending time in the Word or in prayer? Is the Word my delight or have I let it become law to me?

I'm learning to do these kinds of self-examinations to make sure I'm not neglecting the Father or His Word. I want Him to be my very top priority and give Him my very best so I'm not guilty of Jeremiah 2:32 anymore.

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