ccchhhrrriiisss wrote:
Hi jamcorr...I suppose that we could always refer to the manner in which Jesus taught us to pray ("[i]Our father who art in Heaven...[/i]"). But I don't think that Jesus meant to confine us to any sort of rhetoric or required salutations. If you look at prayer (or literal converstations with God, like Moses) throughout the Bible, you will notice that they seemed to vary in the rhetorical manner in which they began.
I feel that the Lord was trying to show us exactly who we are supposed to pray to in the "Lord's Prayer" (our Father [which "father?"] in Heaven). The key, as you know, is to not be repetitious babblers who think that our words make us heard. Our Father heres us and desires for our honest communication, not sincerity hidden behind pious sounding phrases, salutations or words that we use in order to sound holy.
I suggest that you might want to pull out the old Strong's Concordance and look up every example of a person praying. Listen to how THEY started speaking with the Lord. Did they use a similar salutation over and over again? Were they trapped in any sort of mandatory rhetoric required for communicating with our Father? Or were they free to simply pour out their entire beings to a Father who already sees, already knows and already cares for them?
This would be an interesting project (to copy every prayer from the Word of God into a database).
Anyway, I hope that this helps. I know quite a few people who share the same issue. They insert what they feel to be required formalisms into their communication with God -- often not truly understanding what it is that they are saying. It is as if the "[i]In the name of Jesus, Amen[/i]" becomes a little token sacrifice that shows that we [u]really[/u] mean business in our praying. I had a conversation with a person once who didn't even know what that phrase meant or signified.
Now you have me interested in this topic!
:-)
Some great comments, like this one, already.
A speaker I know used to point out that "in the Name of Jesus" means we are claiming His [i]authority[/i], expecting Him to ratify our prayers.
So before praying those words maybe we'd best be sure that what we are praying is in His will!
Not to get too hung up about that - but makes you think!
And Amen means "so be it", or truly. (It's used in Jesus' most solemn declarations. The KJV translates it, "verily, verily I say unto you (or thee)... The word "verily" is actually "amen". Jesus is [i]the[/i] AMEN!
I've become much more informal in my prayers over the years - even in prayer meetings. Usually begin with just, "Father", and "Amen" at the end mostly, but not always. "In the Name of Jesus" is reserved for times when I'm certain the Lord Himself showed me what to ask, because I don't want to claim His authority presumptuously. (Remember what happened to the sons of Sceva in Acts 19!)
And sometimes I suddenly realise I'm talking to Him as much as to myself when thinking aloud about something! (More often I just talk to myself, especially if I'm shopping, trying to remember what's next on the grocery list!)
Prayer flows out of a relationship - what relationship we have with Him.
There's a Christian cartoon of a General (or some top man in the US forces), in his office in full uniform. His aides were standing each side of the open door, stiffly to attention, saluting him. But [i]his[/i] whole attention, open arms and welcoming smile was for a little boy running into the room shouting, "DADDY!!!"
Not that we should take the relationship casually, as some Christians do. Awe and respect have to be mingled with the love and informality.
Blessings
Jeannette