I have a question.
Paul washer stated that the early depctions(Paintings) of Jesus were drawn by homosexuals. Does anyone have any idea who drew most of the paintings we see today? were they homosexual? Finally, what resources can I look at?
Thank you very much for this. I made this comment to someone yesterday and I think I have to put my foot in my mouth.
Isaiah 53:2
2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
I do know that any paintings of Jesus are out of the creative imagination of men. Anywhere from blond hair and blue eyes to what ever.
You will also see this same creative imagination of men in the paintings of the Virgin Mary.
Again, anywhere from blond hair and blue eyes to even a Black Mary.
Are these not graven images?
Katy
There may have been one homosexual painter. The problem is that most people think that when you are involved in the arts, you must be a homosexual. It's stereotyping.
You know how it is, you hear about one painter/sculptor/deco artist etc..being gay and you think that all who practise this field must be gay as well, it's just the way we think.
It's an assumption, not fact.
reply excuse me,
Short question off subject please.
Did you ever run a Bible word search on pictures or painting or graven image
You talk about robbing God of His glory!
You know, Compliments, generally I would agree that too much stereotyping takes place in this artistic arena...
but this week I was in Ireland and in a home there i saw a painting of "Jesus", and I can only say he looked incredibly feminine. Perfectly brushed and curled hair, delicate features, big almond shaped eyes, tiny hands with manicured itsy-bitsy nails...
His "Iron Rod" looked like a thin silver stylus - rule the world with that!?
I can hardly help but deduce that either a bizarrely infatuated woman painted that, or a very shifted man.
I had to laugh over your post, openlife.but this week I was in Ireland and in a home there i saw a painting of "Jesus", and I can only say he looked incredibly feminine
Actually the problem is with naturally thinking men who have never read the bible. Those who never read their bibles conjure up images of wispy silhouettes floating in the breeze. Jesus asked the same question regarding John the Baptist.
It's in man to think of sacred men and women to be perfect, soft spoken and limp wristed, frolicking over the meadow.Matthew 11:7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind?8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.
Resources anyone? I know that many have an opinion about this, but am I going to have to just put my foot in my mouth and apologize for the statement? Does anyone know of any painters names so they can be researched? Thank you all for your help seeing that I do not know where to begin.
edit: dont know about homosexual or not, just that this painting is not the average one
Renaissance culture was greatly influenced by the Neo-Platonic movement through writers such as the Catholic Marcilio Ficino, who I believe have relationships with men. It was by papal commission that he wrote his studies on Platonic philosophy.
It might not be possible, nor worth the time, to name names and get all the "dirt", but looking into the root of these movements will generally show where their fruit got it's nourishment.
Plato, as has been well documented, was guilty of pederasty, as was Socrates, and a good number of other Greek and Roman philosophers. The vast majority of painters during the Renaissance were involved more in philo-theosophical examinations than they were in adhereing to the Gospel, as can be seen by the fact that their artwork sought to mirror the Grecian ideal of perfect form. Da Vinci and the rest all used Grecian modes in their paintings. These works were often commissioned by private individuals, aristocrats, kings, etc. and although they used Biblical themes this often had more to do with the culture at the time than it did with any Godly inspiration.
There is a gnostic form of meditation, found in some mystical love poetry, where they sought to capture the passion (lust) illicited by contemplating (staring at) perfect forms (the human body) and use that to examine the "divine in man". Although not a painter, Gerard Manley Hopkins, also a pederast, used this in his "Christian" poems.
Too often it seems we are lead to accept things at face value and don't search out the root. Christianity has been the dominant force in Western cultural for 2000 years and it has been used to cover up innumerable heretical teachings through a facade of Christian imagery.
Eccelsiastes 1:13 - And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
John 5:39 - Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
I googled 'famous artists homosexuals' and came up with some sites with lists of famous homos who were well known in the arts. As I read I just about got nausea. Then I found on a site that alleged that David and Jonathan were homosexuals, and then I knew the info on that site was not to be trusted. So, the larger question now [to me] is "is the info you find trustworthy?" If the site is maintained by those sympathetic to homosexually, why should one now assume they are honest? The Bible strongly condemns those who are sympathetic to sin...
As for you who stuck you foot in your mouth, be cautioned: it likely won't be the last time! :-?
Blessings,
ginnyrose
Thanks Ginnyrose I need that rebuke. ;-)
but this week I was in Ireland and in a home there i saw a painting of "Jesus", and I can only say he looked incredibly feminine. Perfectly brushed and curled hair, delicate features, big almond shaped eyes, tiny hands with manicured itsy-bitsy nails...
Thanks Ginnyrose I need that rebuke.
Warrior, what I said was not intended to be a rebuke...just an attempt at a little humor...must have fallen flat! :-o
Now about pics of Jesus being painted by homos....years ago we had an old fellow in our church who had a vision in which he saw Jesus. He said Jesus does not look like any of the pictures you see. After this vision, he had all pictures of Jesus in his house removed and destroyed.
Never forgot that...
ginnyrose
Ginny,
i know you were joking. I guess that fell flat. :-)
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