Was Wigglesworth serious?

This quote from him is a blessing;
But the Lord said, "Come out." Then I went into the Salvation Army. At that time it was full of life and there were revivals everywhere. But the Salvation Army went into natural things and the great revivals that they had in those early days ceased. The Lord said to me, "Come out," and I came out. I have had to come out three times since. I believe that this Pentecostal revival that we are now in is the best thing that the Lord has on the earth today, and yet I believe that God has something out of this that is going to be still better. God has no use for any man who is not hungering and thirsting for yet more of Himself and His righteousness.

The Lord has told us to covet earnestly the best gifts, and we need to be covetous for those that will bring Him most glory. We need to see the gifts of healing and the working of miracles in operation today. Some say that it is necessary for us to have the gift of discernment in operation with the gifts of healing, but even apart from this gift I believe the Holy Ghost will have a divine revelation for us as we deal with the sick. Most people seem to have discernment, or think they have, and if they would turn it on themselves for twelve months they would never want to discern again.

David

As I was reading further on this blessed me;

Where people are in sickness you find frequently that they are dense about Scripture. They usually know three scriptures though. They know about Paul's thorn in the flesh, and that Paul told Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach's sake, and that Paul left someone sick somewhere; they forget his name, and don't remember the name of the place, and don't know where the chapter is. Most people think they have a thorn in the flesh. The chief thing in dealing with a person who is sick is to locate their exact position. As you are ministering under the Spirit's power the Lord will let you see just that which will be more helpful and most faith-inspiring to them.

When I was in the plumbing business I enjoyed praying for the sick. Urgent calls would come and I would have no time to wash, and with my hands all black I would preach to these sick ones, my heart all aglow with love. Ah, you must have your heart in the thing when you pray for the sick. You have to get right to the bottom of the cancer with a divine compassion and then you will see the gifts of the Spirit in operation.

David

With God ALL things are possible.

Most people seem to have discernment, or think they have, and if they would turn it on themselves for twelve months they would never want to discern again.

wow what a story...

;.......I was called at 10 o'clock one night to pray for a young person given up by the doctor who was dying of consumption. As I looked, I saw that unless God undertook it was impossible for her to live. I turned to the mother and said, "Well, mother. you will have to go to bed." She said, "Oh, I have not had my clothes off for three weeks." I said to the daughters, "You will have to go to bed," but they did not want to go. It was the same with the son. I put on my overcoat and said, "Good-bye, I'm off." They said, "Oh, don't leave us." I said, "I can do nothing here." They said, "Oh, if you will stop, we will all go to bed." I knew that God would move nothing in an atmosphere of mere natural sympathy and unbelief.

They all went to bed and I stayed, and that was surely a time as I knelt by that bed face to face with death and with the devil. But God can change the hardest situation and make you know that He is almighty.

Then the fight came. It seemed as though the heavens were brass. I prayed from 11 to 3:30 in the morning. I saw the glimmering light on the face of the sufferer and saw her pass away. The devil said, "Now you are done for. You have come from Bradford and the girl has died on your hands." I said, "It can't be. God did not send me here for nothing. This is a time to change strength." I remembered that passage which said, "Men ought always to pray and not to faint." Death had taken place but I knew that my God was all powerful, and He that had split the Red Sea is just the same today. It was a time when I would not have "No," and God said "Yes." I looked at the window and at that moment the face of Jesus appeared. It seemed as though a million rays of light were coming from His face. As He looked at the one who had just passed away, the color came back to the face. She rolled over and fell asleep. Then I had a glorious time. In the morning she woke early, put on a dressing gown and walked to the piano. She started to play and to sing a wonderful song. The mother and the sister and the brother had all come down to listen. The Lord had undertaken. A miracle had been wrought.

David

When I read of Smith Wigglesworth-- and others, like John G. Lake, Charles S. Price, others-- I feel at times torn inside.

I love to read these things, at times I feed on them, am inspired by them, filled with awe.

But then I feel torn. Where is it now, Lord?

Why must I always be reading about these things from another day or another place?

"We have heard with our ears, O God, our fathers have told us, what work Thou didst in THEIR days, in the times of old" (Ps. 44.1).

"...Awake, why sleepest Thou, O Lord? Arise, cast us not off for ever. Wherefore hidest Thou Thy face, and forgettest OUR affliction and OUR oppression? For our soul is bowed down to the dust; our belly cleaveth unto the earth. Arise for OUR help..." (Ps. 44.23-26).

AD

Why must I always be reading about these things from another day or another place?

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I can imagine how you feel. In these last days it is a time of great trouble. 1 Tim. 4:1 tells us many shall depart from the faith. Remember Elijah? 1 Ki. 18:19 God comforted him saying there are 7,000 who have not bowed the knees to Baal. I comfort you and say we are out here. we are called overcomers. Wigglesworth most important theme was faith. Not just saved but trusting God for everything. Pray God will bring them your way. Jesus is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. I had a girl who was possessed with demons reach me as I was delivering her, small cut on arm, God didn't let me feel anything. I have been in asick bed dying to almost death and the bible with me. God raised me up. The bible is my prized keeping. If you would like some good teaching to help you grow deeper see Dennis Schmidt bible papers. Once you start you just might miss supper ha ha ha. God bless in Jesus name.

look up to the message I left you above the next reply brodav9

AD Said..."But then I feel torn. Where is it now, Lord?
Why must I always be reading about these things from another day or another place?

Eagles fly alone bro. To do the things wigglesworth did is a bitter cup.

But....we can do it too!!!

David

Josef,

That's an excellent post! ... thanks for sharing.

I love this section here:

There's one way to the POWER of the RESURRECTION, and that is ONLY through the CROSS. You have to fall into the ground and die before you can bring forth lasting eternal fruit. It's a heavy price to pay, and there's no way around it. It means that one must EMBRACE as a way of life the SUFFERINGS of Christ, as Paul did, and die daily, truly, and I mean truly. And through this God will baptize one in anguish and with the burdens of His heart. Why did Wigglesworth pray with such compassion for the sick? Because He shared the heart of Jesus.

psalm1 wrote:
AD Said..."But then I feel torn. Where is it now, Lord?
Why must I always be reading about these things from another day or another place?

Thanks, Psalm1, and all who reached out with encouragement when they read my question here (above).

Heartsong, thanks for the link to the story of the miracle taking place in Ami Oritz. I hadn't read that before.

When I spoke of always reading of these things taking place in another time and another place, I forgot that the SI "place" is a little bigger than my own little locale in the earth.

It also encourages me to know that when God dries up something-- as He has largely done the ministries of the great healing evangelists that were so prominent in the last century (and maybe Smith Wigglesworth doesn't fit in this category anyway)-- and yes, I know, we do still see and hear of healings, even of men raised from the dead-- but what I am saying is I think God has dried up this kind of healing ministry centred in one "great" man, and it's only because He has Something even greater in mind... if we will get seeking Him for it in OUR generation.

If He didn't dry things up we would just camp there forever probably. And every time we were sick, call up Smith Wigglesworth, or John G. Lake, or...

But, He has Something greater in mind than this, Something greater than the GIFT OF healing, or the MINISTRY OF healing centred in one "great" man.

Something greater, so that we don't always have to be looking wistfully back, reading of wonderful things of a past day we missed out on, but instead, looking AHEAD to greater things.

Which, as the different ones here have shared, there is a cost to it.

"Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old. Behold, I will do a NEW thing..." (Isa. 43.18).

Very encouraging words.

"For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside Thee, what He hath prepared for him that waiteth for Him" (Isa. 64.4).

AD

this little priciple goes a long way;

......."The Lord is calling us along this way. I am thanking God for difficult cases. The Lord has called us into heart union with Himself; He wants His bride to have one heart and one Spirit with Him and to do what He Himself loved to do. That case had to be a miracle. The lungs were gone, they were just in shreds, but the Lord restored lungs that were perfectly sound.

There is a fruit of the Spirit that must accompany the gift of healing and that is longsuffering. The man who is going through with God to be used in healing must be a man of longsuffering. He must be always ready with a word of comfort. If the sick one is in distress and helpless and does not see everything eye to eye with you, you must bear with him. Our Lord Tesus Christ was filled with compassion and lived and moved in a place of longsuffering, and we will have to get into this place if we are to help needy ones.

There are some times when you pray for the sick and you are apparently rough. But you are not dealing with a person, you are dealing with the Satanic forces that are binding the person. Your heart is full of love and compassion to all, but you are moved to a holy anger as you see the place the devil has taken in the body of the sick one, and you deal with his position with a real forcefulness. One day a pet dog followed a lady out of her house and ran all round her feet. She said to the dog, "My dear, I cannot have you with me today." The dog wagged its tail and made a big fuss. She said, "Go home, my dear." But the dog did not go. At last she shouted roughly, "Go home," and off it went. Some people deal with the devil like that, The devil can stand all the comfort you like to give him. Cast him out! You are dealing not with the person, you are dealing with the devil. Demon power must be dislodged in the name of the Lord. You are always right when you dare to deal with sickness as with the devil. Much sickness is caused by some misconduct, there is something wrong, there is some neglect somewhere, and Satan has had a chance to get in. It is necessary to repent and confess where you have given place to the devil, and then he can be dealt with.

David

Here the old master is exhorting believers to "go after the devil/cancer.
That last sentence is awesome about you mouth , mind, and whole being" !!!

.....When you deal with a cancer case, recognize that it is a living evil spirit that is destroying the body. I had to pray for a woman in Los Angeles one time who was suffering with cancer, and as soon as it was cursed it stopped bleeding. It was dead. The next thing that happened was that the natural body pressed it out, because the natural body had no room for dead matter. It came out like a great big ball with tens of thousands of fibers. All these fibers had been pressing into the flesh. These evil powers move to get further hold of the system, but the moment they are destroyed their hold is gone. Jesus said to His disciples that He gave them power to loose and power to bind. It is our privilege in the power of the Holy Ghost to loose the prisoners of Satan and to let the oppressed go free.

Take your position in the first epistle of John and declare, "Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world." Then recognize that it is not yourself that has to deal with the power of the devil, but the Greater One that is in you. Oh, what it means to be filled with Him. You can do nothing of yourself, but He that is in you will win the victory. Your being has become the temple of the Spirit. Your mouth, your mind, your whole being becomes exercised and worked upon by the Spirit of God

David

Wigglesworth in norway;

...........I was called to a certain town in Norway. The hall seated about 1500 people. When I got to the place it was packed, and hundreds were trying to get in. There were some policemen there. The first thing I did was to preach to the people outside the building. Then I said to the policemen, "It hurts me very much that there are more people outside than inside and I feel I must preach to the people. I would like you to get me the market place to preach in." They secured for me a great park and a big stand was erected and I was able to preach to thousands. After the preaching we had some wonderful cases of healing. One man came a hundred miles bringing his food with him. He had not been passing anything through his stomach for over a month as he had a great cancer on his stomach. He was healed at that meeting, and opening his parcel, he began eating before all the people. There was a young woman there with a stiff hand. Instead of the mother making the child use her arm she had allowed the child to keep the arm dormant until it was stiff, and she had grown up to be a young woman and was like the woman that was bowed down with the spirit of infirmity. As she stood before me I cursed the spirit of infirmity in the name of Jesus. It was instantly cast out and the arm was free. Then she waved it all over. At the close of the meeting the devil laid out two people with fits, When the devil is manifesting himself, then is the time to deal with him. Both of these people were delivered, and when they stood up and thanked and praised the Lord what a wonderful time we had.

David