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sermonindex Apr 23, 2008

1Co 6:18 "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits fornication sins against his own body."

Men can bring many sexual problems into a marriage, actually, woman can bring in just as many and the combination of these problems can create unique situations to which, outside of the Holy Spirit, there could be no solution. It is important to know that we can only ever deal with ourselves.

Regardless of your spouses problems, you must focus on yourself and allow yourself to be changed by the power of the Holy Spirit. This may or may not effect your spouse, but your motivation for your own change has to be a desire to be Christ like.

One of the major sexual problems that men deal with before and after marriage is that they have replaced sex for intimacy. Because of a lack of intimacy with their earthy Fathers, this creates a foundational problem in forming a relationship with their heavenly Father and the result is that they seek intimacy through the act of sex or any sexual act. This is a destroying substitute.

Through the passage of time, men will realize that sex in place of intimacy is ultimately unfulfilling and in the process of learning this (if indeed they ever truly learn this truth) they will demand more and more from their partners or they will change partners in their search for that which can only be found in true intimacy, a relationship with the Lord.

There are numerous examples of men seeking intimacy through lust. Many men will masturbate in order to fulfill perceived needs. The problem with masturbation is that it breeds a lack of self control and is a perfect vehicle for fantasy which is ultimately fornication or adultery.

For we know that the Lord says that if “you look upon a woman with lust for her then you have already committed adultery with her in your hearts.”And so every time an image is conjured up in our minds, whether that image is real or not, we are sinning against our God, our bodies and our spouses.

Pornography is another sexual problem that often goes along with masturbation. Many young men or boys discover pornographic magazines. These magazines are all about images. Young men begin to fantasize about what they see in these magazines and compare other young woman that they meet to the girls that they see in these magazines. If these young men marry then it is possible they will compare their wives to the woman in these magazines . Very few woman could ever measure up to the “perfect,” images that are created by those who are in the fantasy business. As a result men may become disillusioned by their partners and begin to belittle them or undermine their wives confidence in themselves.

This is not a problem in men’s lives it is sin. Until a man recognizes that he is living in this sin, he cannot even take the first step on the road to purity. Regardless of how a man is raised, regardless of the circumstances of his childhood, there will come a point in every mans life that he will have to face, not only the sin, but the consequences of the sin.

When a man comes to Jesus and his life is changed, there is so much grace, grace abounds. God the Father is very patient and very loving and the Holy Spirit is very gentle and kind in His treatment of all who come to Him. He is a loving Father who is dealing with new born children. He gives them the milk of kindness and begins to spoon feed them. As we begin to grow in Christ then there comes a time when we are no longer “babes in Christ.” God the Father will begin to deal with problems in our lives.

Many men have assumed that because they were still acting out in their sexual problems , be it pornography or masturbation, besetting sins, and still feeling the presence of the Lord (albeit in a limited fashion) and maintaining a “respectable.” outward appearance that they are not “harming ,” anyone and that which was done in secret is not that big of a deal. God will not allow this situation to go on indefinitely.

No good Father would allow his child to act out continually in front of him. Even the world would recognize this as irresponsible. And so our heavenly Father begins the process of conviction. And when it starts, it will not stop. And if the actions continue, without the proper response to His “tugging,” then we are in danger of being exposed by our Father, so that which is in darkness and stubbornly remains in darkness, will be brought, kicking and screaming, into the light.

And so we have seen that our Heavenly Father drenches us in grace and mercy. He is longsuffering and is gentle in His nudgings to us along the way. He convicts us of our actions and ultimately He wants to remove the idols from our lives because He wants nothing to stand in the way of our relationship with Him. There are a multitude of actions that the Lord may lead men to do.

As every single situation is unique and different, then there is no self help book that we could refer to that will have the answer to our problems. Not even the Word of God will solve any of our problems. The Word of God is not a step by step handbook on how to overcome the problems in your life. If it were so, then stop doing what your doing, isn’t that what the Word ultimately tells us to do? Go ahead, try that, and see how that works for you.

Undoubtedly you will find yourself crying out with Paul in Romans 7 “Oh wretched man that I am.” The Spirit is indeed willing but the flesh is weak. How do we win the war between the spirit and the flesh? How is the Word of God empowered to change our very lives ? First and foremost, you must be Baptized in the Holy Spirit. You must know and have experienced the power and the presence of God. It cannot be a head knowledge, if it is, you are doomed to failure. You must “know Jesus.” This is a most intimate of terms. If you do not “know Him,” then everything will be an exercise to you.

You will attempt to exercise control over your lusts, over the sin that most easily besets you and you will have varying degrees of success, but you will always end in failure. And every failure will be worse than the failure before. And each time you fail, the guilt and the frustration will lead to either despair or anger. You will withdraw, or you will lash out and those closest to you, probably the very ones that you are sinning against.

This will not just be your spouse, it will be your God. You will be angry at God or you will withdraw even further from Him. You will do whatever it takes to try and not be in His gaze. You will probably stop going to Bible studies or meetings, perhaps stop going to church at all and you will blame others and make excuses as to why your not going. And still God pursues.

The answer to this sin and all others is acknowledgement, taking full responsibility, being broken and contrite and giving up your sin in total submission. Search your heart and know that despite how you got to where you are, this is a sin that you embraced at some point in your life. You invited this sin in , and now you must reject it completely. And you cannot fool the living God. You may be able to fool everyone, you may even attempt to fool yourself, but God does not play games.

He is very patient, and if you have to “ go around the mountain again,” then that is what you have to do. You will never go further up the mountain until you exercise your will, the same will that invited this sin in, now has to tell it that your are finished. Once you do that then your Heavenly Father will enable you to overcome.

Many times after you reject this besetting sin, it will come knocking at your door to see if it can come back again. Every time you reject it, turn your back on it, it will lose its power, piece by piece. You might have to reject it a thousand times. And by the same token, every time you reject it in favor of God, then you will be empowered as this sin is weakened.

Imagine you are crossing a great river. The world is on one side and you are headed toward the other side, the heavenly side. Each time you are obedient, each time you turn your back on sin, another stepping stone appears before you and you move forward towards your goal. One step at a time on the road to glory. It is by obedience that we make forward progress towards a deeper walk with Him and overcome. Yet brokenness, submission, surrender and totally rejecting the sin and casting it out of your life are the pre-requisites to the journey of obedience.

If we simply try to be obedient without first taking these steps we will surely fail. When we are broken and finally surrender and submit to our Father then we have begun to establish true intimacy. This, you will discover, is more fulfilling than anything on earth. It is more fulfilling than even a good , wholesome sexual relationship between a man and his wife. It has to be, because no matter what we lack in this life, then we can be fulfilled in every single way with our relationship with Jesus.

Even if you are not married to the perfect spouse(how many of us are?) and you do not get all your needs met, when you walk in proper relationship with your heavenly Father, He will meet all your needs. And as He does this, it frees you up to exercise the same kind of patience with your loved one, that He has exercised with you. This is Gods plan of salvation.

Whereas before you did not have the power to reject sin, to cast it out, now you do. The question is, will you hunger after God’s presence, will you value that more than you value that which has given you a pitiful existence ? The Lord has come to give you life and that more abundantly. As you follow His ways and His leadings it will lead to greater depths. Praise God ,for in this world you will have tribulations, but be of good cheer, He has overcome the world..........Frank

sermonindex Apr 24, 2008

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After what just happened this past weekend, there may be some afraid to respond!! :-) Onward!!

There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
1 Cor 10:13

Each of us MUST seek God's way of escape not our own. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. If what you or I is doing in our way of escape... if it's not working, then we need to seek HIM for His way because HIS way will always work.

And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.
Isa 35:8

sermonindex Apr 24, 2008

Hi Lisa

What happened this last weekend? Do you mean the thread that was closed? I sincerely hope no one is afraid to respond, that would be very sad. This is one of the biggest problems that Christianity faces. Apparently, and this is a horrendous figure, over 50% of men who call themselves Christians are involved in some kind of pornography, 20% of woman(which is even more surprising to me)

This is a Spirit quenching issue. Its highly destructive to a persons walk with the Lord and to their personal relationships.........Frank

sermonindex Apr 24, 2008

I dont think there is anything wrong with discussing lust of the flesh, porn addiction, etc... but the problem may be that some people get too graphic about it. We have to keep in mind that this website is open to all. We probably have children as young as 12 (my kids, for instance) who come here and skim thru the forums. We need to be careful. Fact is, some folks here cant help but go beyond the bounds of decency.

Krispy

sermonindex Apr 24, 2008

I agree with your comments Krispy.

PS..I think I will change the title of the post.........Frank

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davym Apr 24, 2008

Some good comments on here about this delicate, but extremely relevant subject. I believe so many people are trapped in this.

My pastor was speaking on this recently and something he said stuck with me. He said that with the birth of the internet we have seen the second coming of Sodom, a global Sodom,, right into our homes! Thankfully we will soon see the second coming of Christ!

sermonindex Apr 24, 2008


appolus wrote:
Hi Lisa

...This is one of the biggest problems that Christianity faces. Apparently, and this is a horrendous figure, over 50% of men who call themselves Christians are involved in some kind of pornography, 20% of woman(which is even more surprising to me)

This is a Spirit quenching issue. Its highly destructive to a persons walk with the Lord and to their personal relationships.........Frank


I don't know for sure but if I remember correctly about 10 years ago Promise Keepers took a survey the prior year during their conferences. They reported that from the attendees that responded, 90% reported a problem with lust of some kind. 90 percent.

With women, they are catching up fast. With all the romance novels that women are reading, it's worse than soap operas thought about being. Wal-Mart won't sell explicit lyrics in songs but boy they sure sell those explicit romance novels (no titles will be listed). You can ask me how I know what they sell... Years ago, I used to buy them on a regular basis. Being in Wal-Mart, it's easy to stroll down through the aisle even to this day, there is a pull.

But praise be to God that I hear the words, (from Job 31), (paraphrased by Lisa)..." "I HAVE MADE A COVENANT WITH MY EYES that I won't look at the things I used to look at or read the things I used to read - and from Romans 13.14), MAKE NO PROVISION FOR THE FLESH.

What Davym's pastor said is true:

My pastor was speaking on this recently and something he said stuck with me. He said that with the birth of the internet we have seen the second coming of Sodom, a global Sodom,, right into our homes! Thankfully we will soon see the second coming of Christ!

Even though it is the a global sodom, God is still on the Throne and He still delivers today. My hope is in the Resurrection!

"If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things of the earth."
Colossians 3.1-2

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HeartSong Apr 26, 2008

But praise be to God that I hear the words, (from Job 31), (paraphrased by Lisa)..." "I HAVE MADE A COVENANT WITH MY EYES that I won't look at the things I used to look at or read the things I used to read - and from Romans 13.14), MAKE NO PROVISION FOR THE FLESH.

I don't know, in this day and age there is so much pollution that I fear we are being highly influenced without even realizing it. Awhile back I was in WalMart and kept running into these cutouts of Hannah Montana - there was something about the image that I was drawn to and I found myself looking at each one as I went by (there were at least 4 or 5 in the store) - finally I just stopped and stared at it, trying to figure out what was so compelling about a picture of a teenage girl (it was highly suggestive in many aspects - one could almost see her dancing and hear her singing as she points at you in Uncle Sam fashion - the "I want you" look).

The next morning, while I was praying, the image of Hannah Montana popped into my head. I was shocked! These marketing people really know what they are doing - if this image could infringe upon my prayers, I can not even begin to imagine what it does to young boys . . .

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davym Apr 27, 2008

the next morning, while I was praying, the image of Hannah Montana popped into my head. I was shocked! These marketing people really know what they are doing - if this image could infringe upon my prayers, I can not even begin to imagine what it does to young boys . . .

Torments many of them and breaks their fellowship with God rendering them powerless and open to attack. We must remember that Satan is working on the hearts of many of those working in the marketing departments of big corporations.

These pawns in Satan's army don't even realise they're being used. They're too caught up in the thrill of launching campaigns and the subsequent power it gives them both in the company and over the victims of this subtle filth they spew out!

It's all a downward mental spiral and our sin nature loves it!

Romans 13:14 has been quoted in this thread and I thought it would be worth expanding on. Only the second part of the verse was quoted i.e. 'make no provision for the flesh'. It must be remembered however that this can only be done after we do something else

Romans 13:14 says


[i][b]But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ [/b][/i] [i], and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.[/i]

We are powerless without [b]Him![/b]

For further explanation/exposition I would encourage you to take the time to listen to the following, it's superb

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=3297]Victory over the flesh by J. Sidlow Baxter[/url]


sermonindex Apr 27, 2008

The devil uses mainstream TV and the movies to promote his agenda. The prince of the air. Most parents never monitor what the kids watch or what they watch on TV. The devil's agenda is very heavy on the sexual attraction, even during prime-time. Women are half clothed, even on the product commercials.
In the Super Bowl commercials, the devil has a field day. Oh yes, and the women disrespectfully pop their husband's on the forehead with their forehand in the V-8 commercial and saying, you should of had a V-8. Subliminal clips from the devil. What do we do? Get rid of the TV, what else. Many say that's to radical. Jesus is looking for radical people. Almost all the commercials and TV shows contain things, if not full of things that are in direct disobedience to God's Word.

sermonindex Apr 27, 2008

If I might bump this back to the front and ask a question to those who want to answer. I am just curious since this thread slid back behind the mayonnaise. How many of you on SI watch mainstream Television on a regular basis and see these worldly things that were mentioned or see them in the movies that you watch?

sermonindex Apr 27, 2008

Hi moe....I think this is such a tough subject because while many of us talk the talk, we are also very worldy. There is a reason why the world cannot tell us apart from them. Its because we look , in many ways, just like them. I will be honest with you, when the Sopranoes first came out many years ago, I watched it. Then the Lord convicted me about it and I quit watching it. One of the reasons that the Holy Spirit does not move amongsts us, and that we, as of yet, see no revival, is that we ignore His promptings and after a little while it gets harder and harder to hear him......Frank

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ginnyrose Apr 27, 2008

Awhile back I was in WalMart

And it is not only Wal-Mart, how about the home page of FoxNews? Some time ago, during the wee hours of the morning when I could not sleep I came to the computer to check on something and I went to FoxNews and was mortified at the ads surrounding the news items. In the morning I checked again to see if they were there but they were gone. I resolved to no longer go there for my source for news. And if I recall this was when our computer was supposedly being protected by the BeSafe Online filter....

While these vile images tempt the males viciously, it angers this grandmother and makes me wonder how on earth one can combat it? The young look at me and think: she is old fashioned, and they mock...

I got to thinking about Jesus, being the creator, the designer of the human body and he chose to live in a male body with all its limitations. Was he susceptible to greater temptations in this area because he was its creator? Don't know but it gives one something to consider...and he remained pure.

Blessings to one and all...we live in very dangerous times...

ginnyrose

sermonindex Apr 27, 2008

Foxnews is as guilty as any network programing on this subject. They have a line-up of blonds with low-cut tops. All of them are what the world calls beautiful. It is not God's description of beauty though. My wife and I have no mainstream TV, although I do have Foxnews Channel. The devil never puts anything in front of us or offers us anything that doesn't look beautiful on the surface. What we all should wonder is , does Laurie Due, Martha McCallem and those blonds on Foxnews know Jesus as Lord and Savior. Lord, help all of us men to see the truth and discern the tricks of the devil.

sermonindex Apr 27, 2008

I am not sure if the Christians in America who watch Fox News and all the shows on there realize who owns this station. Rupart Murdoch, a former Australian, now a naturalized American owns this station. Any of the semonindex people from Britain will be able to tell you about the Sun Newspaper, one of the biggest selling "newspapers," in Britian. Murdoch owns that paper and at one time, this was his biggest source of income. This paper is full of stories of a sexual nature, and on page three there are topless girls. Most in North America would find this paper very offensive, but you can see what motivates this man and moe is right, most of the newscasters on Foxnews could be at cocktail parties. The irony?Most of that channels viewers are "conservative."

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Compton Apr 27, 2008

...we ignore His promptings and after a little while it gets harder and harder to hear him


Reminds of what one writer said; A hypocrite is someone who has righteous indignation over what's playing on their DVD player.


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