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How many Covanents are their in the Bible?

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deltadom May 13, 2008

This was a question that was brought to my mind when we were listening to david pawson in ayslebury and which of them are still valid! He counted seven and Arnold Fruchtenbaum has counted!

The questions that I ask is

1. how do you define a covanent?
The word in hebrew and greek means cutting or agrement[url=http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/OldTestamentHebrew/heb.cgi?number=01285]Hebrew Reference[/url]
[url=http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/NewTestamentGreek/grk.cgi?number=1242]Greek Reference[/url]
[url=http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/NewTestamentGreek/grk.cgi?number=4934]Greek Reference 2[/url]

David Pawson lays it down like this
1. Noah's Covenant
2. Abrahams Covenant
3. Moses Covenant
4. Davidic Covenant
5. Messianic Covenant

Arnold Fruchtanbaum I think counts eight.
The question that I had to ask is that some covenants can be temporary!
The covanents that I thought that should have been in there were the Levitical Covenant! Can you have a Covenant without the shedding of blood as that is what the word comes from!

1. Noahs Covenant

Genesis 9
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. 5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. 6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. 7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying, 9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you; 10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth. 11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: 13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: 15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. 17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

The issues it deals with
1. Murder
Genisis 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
2. Being a vegitarian
Genisis 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Gods Promises
1. Not to destroy the earth until the End
Genesis 6:15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth. 17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant,

This is basically a covenant to sustain life on this planet so this covenant is eternal.

Questions:
It is interesting that God creates the Rainbow for him to remember, that the Covenant is not only with man but with every living creature! So that shows covenants can be made with living objects such as animals.
God has a memory!
This covenant is still in operation

2.Abrahamic Covenant

Genesis 15
1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

2 And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus? 3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir. 4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir. 5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

7 And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it. 8 And he said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it? 9 And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon. 10 And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not. 11 And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away.

12 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. 13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

17 And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning F76 lamp that passed between those pieces. 18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: 19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, 20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, 21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

Genesis 17
1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. F79 2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. 3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,

4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many F80 nations. 5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; F81 for a father of many nations have I made thee. 6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. 9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. 10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. 12 And he that is eight F82 days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. 13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. 14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

Genesis 17
15 And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah F83 shall her name be. 16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. 17 Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear? 18 And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! 19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. 20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. 21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

Abimelechs Covenant
27 And Abraham took sheep and oxen, and gave them unto Abimelech; and both of them made a covenant. 28 And Abraham set seven ewe lambs of the flock by themselves. 29 And Abimelech said unto Abraham, What mean these seven ewe lambs which thou hast set by themselves? 30 And he said, For these seven ewe lambs shalt thou take of my hand, that they may be a witness unto me, that I have digged this well. 31 Wherefore he called that place Beersheba; F90 because there they sware both of them. 32 Thus they made a covenant at Beersheba: then Abimelech rose up, and Phichol the chief captain of his host, and they returned into the land of the Philistines

The issues it dealt with
1.Many Descendants and Faith
Genisis 15
Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

2. Israels Captivity in Egypt

Genenis 15
13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.

3. Israels Borders
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: 19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, 20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, 21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites

This is no yet fufilled, as Israel did not conquer the land to the Euphrates River

4.Name swapping
15 And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah F83 shall her name be. 16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her,

Sarah and Abraham both get the name of god in there actual names! This was a commen practise in covenant and Jesus only fufills this in the new testament! When he accepts our names. God calls himself by the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob!

5. Circumsion
The shedding of blood is essential in any covenant! In chapter 15 we have a mass slaughter of animals and also circumsion walking between animals what a bloody mess that was! Imagine it the carcuses of dead animals laying strewn in a desert like temperatures to rote and the smell must have been terrible and Abraham falls asleep and God walks through the pieces, then circumcision, Abraham must have had alot of faith in God to do this! not only for him but his whole household.

6.The Land of Canaan or Israel
Note that God calls Israel, the land that he will be there god! and that his covenant is only with Issac and not with Ishmael!

7. Father of many Nations
Not one nations but many

The questions, I was wanting to go into detail on is the Mosaic Covenant dead? and prove to me where it is as Jesus says every jot and tittle! If God promised it to the nation Israel!
If gods word is eternal! Can a covenant that God made ever be temporary!

Bible Reference
[url=http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=covenant&section=0&version=kjv&new=1&showtools=1&oq=covanant]Biblical Referances[/url]

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Deltadom asks:

"The questions, I was wanting to go into detail on is the Mosaic Covenant dead? and prove to me where it is as Jesus says every jot and tittle! If God promised it to the nation Israel!
If gods word is eternal! Can a covenant that God made ever be temporary!"

Walter's response:

The Mosaic Covenant has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Seed of the Woman. Jesus Christ lives in the hearts of all believers. His Law now is written within our hearts. His death, shed blood, and resurrection from the dead has caused all sin that believers have ever committed forgiven- Past, Present & Future. However, to have [b]relationship with Him[/b], we must ask for forgiveness from Him when we sin again (after we are saved)-Sin by thought, word, or deed.

5. This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6.[b] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.[/b]

1 John 1:5-10

Sincerely,

Walter

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Really only [b]One[/b]. Jesus was crucified [b]before[/b] the foundation of the earth. Hebrews speaks of eternal blood.

Eternal blood, eternal sacrifice. The Praise to "the Lamb of God who was SLAIN." "These are those, who have washed their robes, in the blood of the Lamb." [Been made to keep covenant.]

Adam was clothed in Lamb skin, obviously from a lamb slain. Abel offered a lamb, so all of the old world, pre-ARK, knew of this covenant. Then Noah lived on, with a remnant. Then Abraham, then Moses, then David, and prophets, them the Incarnation.

If Jesus appeared as Yahweh in the body of a man to be crucified, how is it that He was already crucified, before the Earth was made? Ahh. but He was.


My point is, there has always only been one covenant, but many applications, as eras and times, and the faces of men of God changed, according to the "fullness of times", when he returns. [ENOCH saw this, and spoke of it.]

Revelation speaks of a "Sardious" God, or "sardine"; a reddish color. I believe that this is related to the covenant, as the Father continually sees with loving [b]MERCY[/b]as He sees the Blood of his Holy Son, that was willingly offered up by Him, out of love for Adam, and his children...lost Adam...

The pearl of great price. All I've got, for all that you have. That is the covenant. God could not pay more. We cannot receive him, unless we pay with our lives. That's really all that we have. God gave his only son. That is why Abraham is so great, and called the father of faith, by God himself. Abraham's faith promise was, "all of the world" as children. Both He and the Father gave their only begotten sons.

In an overview, these are all applications of one covenant throughout time.

I am not trying to ambush this thread with the obvious. It is a wonderful and valuable study to see the covenant unfold in it's various manifestations, but I think it's noteworthy to see too that the Eternal plan never changed. Life for Life, because I love you.

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Jer 32:36-41
37 I will surely gather them from all the lands where I banish them in my furious anger and great wrath; I will bring them back to this place and let them live in safety. 38 They will be my people, and I will be their God. 39 I will give them singleness of heart and action, so that they will always fear me for their own good and the good of their children after them.[b] 40 I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me. 41 I will rejoice in doing them good and will assuredly plant them in this land with all my heart and soul.[/b]

Jesus sealed this everlasting covenant Jeremiah referred to with his blood for those who believe.


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