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sermonindex May 19, 2008

Saints,

I have compiled alot of articles regarding this movement and what is going on with it. I personally caution people that this is not of God and is a "manufactured" man-made revival with much emotionalism and also opening to the spiritual realm (ie demonic). Please inform others that you know that are caught up in this movement.

[b]"FLORIDA DECEPTION??" Radio Interview[/b]
http://watchmenradio.podomatic.com/enclosure/2008-05-04T08_20_04-07_00.mp3

[b]CHARISMA- "QUESTIONS About LAKELAND"[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23526&forum=35#185244

[b]WARNING about VIDEOs - Urban[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23455&forum=35&42

[b]LAKELAND BLOG[/b]
http://lakelandrevival.blogspot.com/

[b]RUN FOR YOUR LIFE FROM THIS END-TIME DECEPTION!!! -urban[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23401&forum=35&4

[b]Camouflaged Deception Practices.[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23573&forum=35&1

[b]There's no cross in the "river". Bam![/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23538&forum=35&9

[b]"ANGELS" & the FLORIDA HEALING REVIVAL - Warning! -strom [/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23328&forum=35&14

[b]Soaking; meditation or witchcraft??? Please help the young.[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23447&forum=35&3

[b]MOST "CONTAGIOUS" ANOINTING - Florida - WARNING! -strom[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23427&forum=35&8

[b]THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRITS THAT TODD BENTLEY OPERATES UNDER[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23415&forum=35&16

[b]videos of steve hill and john kilpatrick at florida revival [/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23378&forum=35&64

[b]Lakeland Revival?[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23410&forum=35&1

[b]Brownsville & Lakeland[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23369&forum=35&7

[b]A FALSE HEALING REVIVAL?? -Florida [/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23215&forum=35&64

[b] [revival] 2006 VISION- TRUE and FALSE REVIVAL[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23337&forum=35&2

[b] Lakeland Florida Revival[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23326&forum=35&1

[b]New Zealand now has the Lakeland Revival[/b]
http://www.revivalschool.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3467656#3467656

[b]Lakeland Information Web Page[/b]
http://www.obeyjesus.net/content/category/1/101/74/

[b]Church Warnings[/b]
http://churchwarnings.blogspot.com/

[b]Wolf Tracks[/b]
http://sheepyweepy.wordpress.com/

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ExposingLies May 29, 2008

I have compiled alot of articles regarding this movement and what is going on with it. I personally caution people that this is not of God and is a "manufactured" man-made revival with much emotionalism and also opening to the spiritual realm (ie demonic).

So your now an 'expert' on a word that's not in the bible (i.e. revival)

If all revivals need to 'look the same' (a para-phrase of your thought process) then the only 'real' revivals we will have are holiness, brokenness, reformed, puritan, repentance revivals.


We will never see restoration, wholeness, catholic/Pentecostals apart of them. (I guess when we read 'a time to break, a time to heal' God was wrong....)

In addition, getting a newsletter titled ""THE REVIVAL WE NEED"" It made me laugh. YOUR FULL OF PRIDE. "We have the only real revival" is what your indirectly saying. God is moving throughout the world, china, 3rd world countries, [b]and heck LAKELAND![/b]

I'm sorry but these charismatics are emotional but it's NOT A REASON to write off what they do for God. Many of the things that happen within the charasmatic movement is GREATLY received within the Chinese church, why not America? [b]Oh that's right, we are full of pride and just like the Pharisees during Jesus' day (mocking, proud, stuck-up, arrogant, bitter, etc)[/b]

Now, my statement might get 'thrown away' but it needs to be said. I'm normally indirect about these things, trying not to step on people's toes, but this has gotten out of hand. It's EXACTUALLY what Paul speaks against (brethren quarrels/strive/divisions).

Some people in leadership, here at SI, probably will be like 'oh no, the enemy is using this man'. Have you ever tried to ask 'Is God doing something I might not like, because of my traditions, preferences, or beliefs that are outside Scripture?' I think your getting excited about the things YOU like and not what GOD likes. God knows His people won't be perfect, nor will their movements.

Take it and I hope this leads you to repentance.

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enid May 29, 2008

You are posting a lot of negativity and resentment, and not using any scripture, just reasoning, emotions, and questions.

For my part, by what you are writing, you sound as though you have problems with anyone who doesn't agree with what you want them too.

You know what, there are people out there who don't accept it. What do you intend to do about it?

Just spout more bitterness?

Show me from scripture that what is happening in these churches is from God?

Writhing like snakes is from God? Show me in scripture. Enough.

Brother Greg, thanks for the links.

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LoveHim May 29, 2008

dear exposinglies,

the Lord has been showing me how so full of pride i am and how quick i am to open my mouth to speak instead of waiting or asking questions in humility.

[i]james 1:19[/i]
19 My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be [i]quick to listen, slow to speak[/i] and slow to become angry,

what i am saying brother is that if you want to discuss the current happenings at lakeland, why not humble yourself and ask questions instead of instantly rebuking the moderator and others on this site?

i would have no problem talking to you about lakeland and why i have stayed away from it, just please approach the subject in humility and not in the same pride you insinuate we are in for rejecting lakeland.

If all revivals need to 'look the same' (a para-phrase of your thought process) then the only 'real' revivals we will have are holiness, brokenness, reformed, puritan, repentance revivals.
brother, if the "revival" does not lead to holiness, brokeness, and repentance then that would mean that it leads to ungodliness, pride, and stubborness. brother exposinglies, that would be no revival at all.

please take time and ponder these things, and if you want to discuss this, please write in love and not just to rebuke and tell some people off.

phil


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hmmhmm May 29, 2008

Yes thanks for the links, may people see lakeland for what it is.

Deception

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ginnyrose May 29, 2008

ExposingLies, did your toes get stepped on? Hurts, doesn't it?

Moderators, thanks for the compilation. I already emailed this list to a friend who was telling me about this revival and its effects on her friend.

Blessings,
ginnyrose

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RobertW May 29, 2008

I'm sorry but these charismatics are emotional but it's NOT A REASON to write off what they do for God. Many of the things that happen within the charasmatic movement is GREATLY received within the Chinese church, why not America? Oh that's right, we are full of pride and just like the Pharisees during Jesus' day (mocking, proud, stuck-up, arrogant, bitter, etc)

Todd Bentley has a history of mingling the things of God with the New Age or the Demonic. RAT POISON is 90% good corn, it is the 10% strychnine or brodifacoum that makes it so deadly. Understand that some of us in these forums are Pentecostal and others are former members of the Prophetic Movement.


Some people in leadership, here at SI, probably will be like 'oh no, the enemy is using this man'. Have you ever tried to ask 'Is God doing something I might not like, because of my traditions, preferences, or beliefs that are outside Scripture?' I think your getting excited about the things YOU like and not what GOD likes. God knows His people won't be perfect, nor will their movements.

So you do not mind the fact that the man entertains an angel named Emma or takes New Age style trips to the third heaven? You don't mind the fact that the man has a thirst for ultimate fighting a phenomena that was outlawed in the U.S. 10 years ago and is now being promoted by so-called preachers? That he wears T-Shirts that say "Jesus loves me @ my Tatoos" and sports demonic looking gothic jewelry and facial hardware? Understand that the rings are symbolic. What is worse is his hunger for bands such at Mortification that make secular bands like Ozzy's sound like choir boys. And this madness and devilry is supposed to be Christian?

And this is the most dangerous devilry of all- wolves that come clad in wolves clothing and the people STILL can't discern it. This is the saddest and sickest thing imaginable. They show the people who they are and the people still won't believe them!

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tjservant May 29, 2008

This is the saddest and sickest thing imaginable. They show the people who they are and the people still won't believe them!

sermonindex May 29, 2008

"Oh that's right, we are full of pride and just like the Pharisees during Jesus' day (mocking, proud, stuck-up, arrogant, bitter, etc)"

Hold on a second here. This man, Bentley, tells tall tales that include being transported by a 'portal' in the form of a pillar of fire where he was put on an operating table, gutted by heavenly beings with white coats with a miter saw, then was sown back up after 'truth' was put in his body replacing his organs as they lay on the floor turning to gold AND WE'RE BITTER AND ARROGANT BECAUSE WE QUESTION THIS MOVEMENT?

No sir, it is you in your condescending manner, who are labelling people who are gutwrenched over this movement out of, at the very least, a "reasonable deference" to challenge scripturally what this man is propagating. Does Jesus warn us about wolves in sheeps clothing in the last days so we CAN LACK JUDGEMENT? So we can just see with our eyes only and say for every Todd, Joe, or George who comes around "oh yes these miracles, signs and wonders are from God"? Christ is talking about charlatans who dress up like sheep...they look like the real thing but are not. Do you think deception is obvious? Do you think a counterfeit is overt? The first thing Jesus says about the last days is: SEE THAT YOU ARE NOT DECEIVED.

So are we arrogant, stuck-up or whatever else, for taking heed to all of the Biblical warning, especially in light of this man's own outlandish personal testimony??

Well then I guess I'm guilty of arrogance according to your definition.....AND IF THAT MAKES ME A PHARISEE IN YOUR EYES THEN THAT'S A CHANCE I'M WILLING TO TAKE.

sermonindex May 29, 2008

In addition, getting a newsletter titled ""THE REVIVAL WE NEED"" It made me laugh. YOUR FULL OF PRIDE. "We have the only real revival" is what your indirectly saying. God is moving throughout the world, china, 3rd world countries, and heck LAKELAND!

By watching the videos of Todd Bently and others it seems they are full of pride and self-exalation. A revival similar to this was called the Welsh Revival in 1904. But you want to know the differences between this one and the current (so called revival):

1. Evan Roberts would not even want to go up to the stage half the time.

2. Cross preaching was the major move before the revival and during.

3. Praying the blood of Jesus over meetings was something of a regular occurrence. (get a group of people to start doing this at lakeland and you will have the leadership at the front telling you to stop praying and just recieve, THEY DONT WANT YOU TO PRAY AT THESE MEETINGS).

4. 100,000 people came to Christ within 3 months of the revival in all different types of churches.


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hmmhmm May 29, 2008

Here i have two testimonies about Lakeland and the counterfeit revival. This is just excerpts and the whole thing can be read in the link provided at the end.


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I take no pleasure in posting these two accounts which I came across today which confirms what I feared would happen–that there would be evidence of many of these healings not being true or of God. I still know God heals–but its at HIS DISCRETION, as to whom or when, not mans.

Two stories–two accounts of falsehood..

Revivalschool forum:

Blessings in Christ Jesus,

This is my first post to this forum, and i’ve been following the Lakeland revival ever since I got word from Andrew through his email about it. I live in Washington State, and I have been dealing with alot of people asking me about this “revival” and what my thoughts have been. I have advised people to constantly “test the spirits” and the usual, feeling that this is mostly emotionalism and hype and agreeing with most in these forums, that what has been going on here is not of God.

I do believe that the Lord will take this awful situation and turn it around for good. I do believe that while they maybe using the Word of God for personal gain, God’s word will not return void but it shall accomplish that which He pleases, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto He sent it. I believe that God will deal with these false prophets in time. I do pray for the people who thought that they had an encounter with the Holy Spirit, that they will truly come into a personal knowledge of the truth. I have so much to say about this as Im sure y’all do.

Anyways the real reason I decided to post on here was because of a dear friend of mine who passed away this morning at 5:20 AM.

His name is Pastor Larry Reed, Pastor of Olympic View Assembly of God in Silverdale, Washington. Pastor Larry has been suffering for the past 18 months of terminal bone cancer. He was given only a year to live, but PRAISE THE LORD out lived the doctors findings. He (Pastor Larry) told me last year at breakfast one morning that he wanted more for Jesus and was going to do whatever it took to accomplish that. He invited speakers from all over the country from evangelists to prophetic speakers so that he and his congregation could catch the fire and maybe just maybe a revival would break out in his church.

He really took a turn for the worst this year, and lost most of his weight, he looked like a skeleton, was on oxygen and needed care all of the time. He couldn’t even preach anymore. Pastor Larry was a man who dearly loved Jesus, and was very strong in his faith and very strong in stature physically. So to see him him so frail was shocking to say the least.

Last week on 5/18/08 he was in the sanctuary there in Lakeland trying to find the healing he soo much wanted, sitting in his wheel chair in front of Mr. Bentley, he was deemed as “healed” when Pastor Larry stood up and cheered in victory. During the course of last week when he returned, he got worse and so this morning he died.

Now I have to say with all my heart that I believe without a shadow of doubt, that this so called “revival” is fake! I wont question my friend’s faith because his ministry was filled with faith. But if this was truly a move of God and all these people were getting healed, then why did my friend die?

I truly believe with all of my heart that God in His infinite mercy and love for his child Larry Reed took him home this morning to end his suffering and that he is face to face with Jesus right now. But what about all the others who have been duped into going along with this mess and is finding out that they right back where they started? I tell you if I could I would knock some people’s lights out, of course that wouldn’t be right, but thats how I feel.

I hope that all of you who stand up for this guy Bentley, will “wake up, arise from the dead and allow Christ to shine in you”, the days are evil family, the light of day is growing shorter and shorter, and we’re wasting our time hunting down the anointing looking for the next wave of revivals. People are dying about a hundred thousand a minute. Instead of seeking the anointing for yourself why not run out to your street corner and begin to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and take on the heart of Spurgeon when he said that if people want to go to Hell, the they will have to jump over his body to enter those gates!

Blessings to all in Christ Jesus


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I find this heart breaking folks… Not because this brother was taken home to be with our Lord, and not even for the person who wrote the above post, for they appear to have not allowed the death of this dear friend to shake their faith in God. But see, many others are not as strong as this person..what about them?

A few weeks ago, I started to write a post titled “Aftermaths of False Revivals’…I put it aside, hoping to add to it as I had time to study through past false moves of God and the fall-out from them. This was one example of what I was coming across in my research; False healings and miracles, which ultimately cause many to stumble, become disillusioned and perhaps, God help us, lose their faith in God.

Also from TheologyToday:

I’ve felt that something was off in Lakeland….and now I’m absolutely convinced that this so called Florida Outpouring is a man made hoax…..Todd Bentley claimed on GOD TV that a 3 year old girl named Jaden was resurrected from the dead…..he claimed she was on her way to have her organs donated…..funeral arrangements had been made….and she “coughed! Arnold Palmer Hospital officials deny this;

Hundreds are claiming healing from various ailments, including deafness, cancer, tumors and paralysis. There are also unconfirmed reports of the dead coming back to life.

One of the cases involves a 3-year-old girl, dead for two days, who allegedly woke up and coughed as she was being wheeled into a room to have her organs harvested, Strader said. The hospital denied the report. link

I remember watching Todd Bentley talking on a cell phone with this girls father and proclaiming the good news of little Jaden’s resurrection….and now we all know that this was a lie….there was never a resurrection of little Jaden.

I remember how the crowd went euphoric at the news of little Jaden’s resurrection….and how Bentley jumped around shouting and yelling “Praise God”! Was it all an act?

Now the million dollar question?

Did Todd Bentley know the truth or was he purposely deceived?

Is Todd Bentley deceived or is he a deceiver?

This false resurrection claim makes all his other claims like visiting heaven and conversing with angels questionable, don’t you think?

This false resurrection claim also validates my beliefs that this revival is a hoax. I would think even the most ardent supporters of this revival would take pause and re-examine this man, his ministry and his revival….don’t you think?

Why hasn’t GOD TV, like Charisma Magazine, stepped forward and stated the resurrection story of little Jaden was a lie? Charisma Magazine buried the story but why haven’t they placed this on blast and denounced this hoax?

It’s time for some honest answers from the Bentley people…..from Stephen Strader and anyone else affiliated with this so called revival!

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[url=http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/false-healings-and-claims-at-bentleys-lakeland-outpouring/]Source[/url]

sermonindex Jul 28, 2008

Colin from Scotland: This may help you understand what we have went through, and are confronting at the "source". bless you, tom
sermonindex wrote:
Saints,

I have compiled alot of articles regarding this movement and what is going on with it. I personally caution people that this is not of God and is a "manufactured" man-made revival with much emotionalism and also opening to the spiritual realm (ie demonic). Please inform others that you know that are caught up in this movement.

[b]"FLORIDA DECEPTION??" Radio Interview[/b]
http://watchmenradio.podomatic.com/enclosure/2008-05-04T08_20_04-07_00.mp3

[b]CHARISMA- "QUESTIONS About LAKELAND"[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23526&forum=35#185244

[b]WARNING about VIDEOs - Urban[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23455&forum=35&42

[b]LAKELAND BLOG[/b]
http://lakelandrevival.blogspot.com/

[b]RUN FOR YOUR LIFE FROM THIS END-TIME DECEPTION!!! -urban[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23401&forum=35&4

[b]Camouflaged Deception Practices.[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23573&forum=35&1

[b]There's no cross in the "river". Bam![/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23538&forum=35&9

[b]"ANGELS" & the FLORIDA HEALING REVIVAL - Warning! -strom [/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23328&forum=35&14

[b]Soaking; meditation or witchcraft??? Please help the young.[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23447&forum=35&3

[b]MOST "CONTAGIOUS" ANOINTING - Florida - WARNING! -strom[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23427&forum=35&8

[b]THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRITS THAT TODD BENTLEY OPERATES UNDER[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23415&forum=35&16

[b]videos of steve hill and john kilpatrick at florida revival [/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23378&forum=35&64

[b]Lakeland Revival?[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23410&forum=35&1

[b]Brownsville & Lakeland[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23369&forum=35&7

[b]A FALSE HEALING REVIVAL?? -Florida [/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23215&forum=35&64

[b] [revival] 2006 VISION- TRUE and FALSE REVIVAL[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23337&forum=35&2

[b] Lakeland Florida Revival[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=23326&forum=35&1

[b]New Zealand now has the Lakeland Revival[/b]
http://www.revivalschool.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=3467656#3467656

[b]Lakeland Information Web Page[/b]
http://www.obeyjesus.net/content/category/1/101/74/

[b]Church Warnings[/b]
http://churchwarnings.blogspot.com/

[b]Wolf Tracks[/b]
http://sheepyweepy.wordpress.com/

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