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SEMINAR: Jesse Morrell on Hudson Taylor

sermonindex Jun 24, 2004

NOTE there is a 25 person limit for each event.If you have any questions or comments on this event please ask them in this thread.\t NOTE: All seminars are free and have a seating capacity of 25 people. Registerants are based on a first come first serve basis. You must provide a notice 24 hours before cancelling your appearance to this seminar.You can now Sign-up for Live Seminars with various guest speakers on SermonIndex. The atmosphere of the seminar will be similar to an online classroom model where you can ask questions, raise hand, even if allowed communicate back using audio/video. This will allow many from across the world to hear and benefit meeting various Christian speakers that otherwise would not be possible. Another facet of the Seminars will be to disciple and build up the body of believers that are fellowshiping in the SermonIndex community.If you have additional questions or comments about the Live Seminar feature please either post them in the SermonIndex.net Support Forum Section or the Contact Us Form. If you are a pastor, speaker, leader and would like to be able to run a seminar please contact us with your information for consideration.\t The Hudson TaylorSpeaker: Jesse MorrellDate: Tuesday, June 29thTime: 8:00 pm EST (1 hour)Description: Christian History Magazine said "In 1854, some 380 million in the vast China interior had never seen a Westerner nor heard the name of Christ. That spring, a young Englishman landed in Shanghai determined to change that." Why is the name of Hudson Taylor still remembered today? What means did he use to spread the gospel which made him so successful? What can be learned from him today?

sermonindex Jun 28, 2004

I am very much looking forward to this Live event this next tuesday! You can signup now for free to access this Live Seminar that is conducted in Live Audio and you will be able to communicate with Live Text Chat. It has been a blessing to hear Jesse Morrell share his heart on other biographies of church history and this one looks to be great also. Here are some resources on J. Hudson Taylor that are on SermonIndex:Hudson Taylor Articles

sermonindex Jun 29, 2004

I encourage you to register for the Live Seminar tonight, it is promising to be an very encouraging look at the Life of the famous missionary to China, Hudson Taylor, he founded the China Inland Mission.Here are some good quotes by Hudson Taylor:“I myself, for instance, am not especially gifted, and am shy by nature, but my gracious and merciful God and Father inclined Himself to me, and when I was weak in faith He strengthened me while I was still young. He taught me in my helplessness to rest on Him, and to pray even about little things in which another might have felt able to help himself.” - James Hudson Taylor "Do not have your concert first, and then tune your instrument afterwards. Begin the day with the Word of God and prayer, and get first of all into harmony with Him.” –James Hudson Taylor “I have seen many men work without praying, though I have never seen any good come out of it; but I have never seen a man pray without working.” - James Hudson Taylor “The branch of the vine does not worry, and toil, and rush here to seek for sunshine, and there to find rain. No; it rests in union and communion with the vine; and at the right time, and in the right way, is the right fruit found on it. Let us so abide in the Lord Jesus.” -James Hudson Taylor"Do we give sufficient attention to the theme of gaining Christ? It is our joy and privilege to know Him as God's unspeakable gift, but none knew this more fully than the apostle Paul. But was he satisfied with this knowledge? Or was Paul's soul-consuming desire, at all possible cost, to gain Christ; and thus to know Him, and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings? Oh that Christ may be so known by us as a ‘living, bright reality’ that our one desire-our one absorbing heart-passion may be that we personally gain Christ-that we personally know Him as the apostle longed to do." - Hudson Taylor"To every toiling, heavy-laden sinner, Jesus says, ‘Come to me and rest’. But there are many toiling, heavy-laden believers, too. For them this same invitation is meant. Note well the words of Jesus, if you are heavy-laden with your service, and do not mistake it. It is not, ‘Go, labor on,’ as perhaps you imagine. On the contrary, it is stop, turn back, ‘Come to me and rest.’ Never, never did Christ send a heavy laden one to work; never, never did He send a hungry one, a weary one, a sick or sorrowing one, away on any service. For such the Bible only says, ‘Come, come, come.’ – Hudson Taylor"In Shansi I found Chinese Christians who were accustomed to spend time in fasting and prayer. They recognized that this fasting, which so many dislike, which requires faith in God, since it makes one feel weak and poorly, is really a Divinely appointed means of grace. Perhaps the greatest hindrance to our work is our own imagined strength; and in fasting we learn what poor, weak creatures we are-dependent on a meal of meat for the little strength which we are so apt to lean upon." - J. Hudson Taylor"You must GO forward on your knees." - J. Hudson Taylor"All God’s giants have been weak men, who did great things for God because they believed that God would be with them." - Hudson Taylor"Since the days of Pentecost, has the whole church ever put aside every other work and waited upon Him for ten days, that the Spirit’s power might be manifested? We give too much attention to method and machinery and resources, and too little to the source of power." -Hudson Taylor "I have found that there are three stages in every great work of God: first, it is impossible, then it is difficult, then it is done." - Hudson Taylor

sermonindex Jun 29, 2004

This is your last chance to register for this Live Seminar on the Life of Hudson Taylor. Register before 8:00pm EST to be a part of this event.

sermonindex Jun 30, 2004

Here is the text transcript of the Live Seminar:---Meet ASAPDate: Tue Jun 29 19:42:18 GMT-0400 2004Click Here for Meeting Details¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯++Jesse Morrell has entered the meeting.¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Greg Gordon says:hey brother JesseJesse Morrell says:greetingsGreg Gordon says:how are things going on your end brotherJesse Morrell says:things are greaJesse Morrell says:ttJesse Morrell says:but i've been battling against the flesh about sleepJesse Morrell says:it seems to enjoy itJesse Morrell says:how about uGreg Gordon says:yea sleep is something I hate also :PGreg Gordon says:well I like it not just tooo much of itJesse Morrell says:i enjoy it, but theres so much to get done is all. i think i do have a sleepign disorder thoughGreg Gordon says:hehe that could helpGreg Gordon says::PJesse Morrell says:i never felt i needed so much sleep until i started trying to accomplish moreGreg Gordon says:I am looking forward to this seminarJesse Morrell says:you know a bit about taylor already right?Greg Gordon says:I have been inspired by many of the missionaries in the China Inland missionGreg Gordon says:ohh yeaGreg Gordon says:Jonathan Gorforth I know more about thoughGreg Gordon says:he was a missionary from my home church Knox PresbyterianGreg Gordon says:theres a plaque in our front of our church from the chinese in Mancuria chinaGreg Gordon says:thanking gorforthGreg Gordon says:there was mighty revivals in Mancuria chinaJesse Morrell says:hes my favoriteJesse Morrell says:after reading about him i was brought to my knees saying God make me a man of God like this man wasGreg Gordon says:do you have the book "By My Spirit" by Gorforth?Jesse Morrell says:i didn't know anything about him until yesturdayJesse Morrell says:so noGreg Gordon says:its out of printGreg Gordon says:I have aobut 4-5 copies stored upGreg Gordon says:I will send you one in the next batch :PJesse Morrell says:o wowGreg Gordon says:he recited the whole book to a person because he was blind at the timeJesse Morrell says:thanksJesse Morrell says:he would preach up to 8 hours a dayGreg Gordon says:he was blind when he was a keswick speaker alsoGreg Gordon says:yea he took a wide margin bible and make notes all through it about the Holy Spirit (the whole bible)Greg Gordon says:and taught the people.Greg Gordon says:I would like to find that bible :PJesse Morrell says:CIM really effected alot of peopleJesse Morrell says:goforth, john abd betty stem, the cambridge 7 etcJesse Morrell says:lottie moonGreg Gordon says:I have a recording from James Hudson Taylor III on SIGreg Gordon says:its his great grandson I believeGreg Gordon says:and hes into missions big time..Greg Gordon says:sounds quite the men of God alsoGreg Gordon says:I would recommend you hear itJesse Morrell says:what is it on?Greg Gordon says:missions.Greg Gordon says:it was spoken at my church back in the dayGreg Gordon says:we are a big missions church,.,. ie goforthJesse Morrell says:thats really increadable that hes from your churchGreg Gordon says:yes it startled me¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯++Ed Pugh has entered the meeting.¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Jesse Morrell says:when i you find out?Greg Gordon says:theres a picture of him and his wife up in the gorforth hall upstairs in my churchJesse Morrell says:when did you fin out i meanGreg Gordon says:quite recentlyGreg Gordon says:after I read his bookJesse Morrell says:lolGreg Gordon says:!! praise God it freaked me outJesse Morrell says:welcome edEd Pugh says:Hi Brother JesseJesse Morrell says:how are you tonight?Ed Pugh says:Pretty good brother. You?Greg Gordon says:pretty good thats it?Greg Gordon says:lolEd Pugh says:lolGreg Gordon says:we are in Christ.. if we die we are with Him!Greg Gordon says:he is in us!Greg Gordon says:sorry im done preachin.Ed Pugh says:Amen. Jesus is our living hope!Jesse Morrell says:well this is a joyful bunchJesse Morrell says::)Greg Gordon says:lolGreg Gordon says:hey we are praying.. lolGreg Gordon says:or checking our emailGreg Gordon says:hmmGreg Gordon says:lolEd Pugh says:lol. One of my favorite verses is 1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,Ed Pugh says:I'm old, I can't type as fast as you guys (or yous guys). lolGreg Gordon says:God does not begat! - koranGreg Gordon says:I love that verse also brotherGreg Gordon says:Begotten of the father what a wonderful truthEd Pugh says:Yes, how easy it is to forget it.Ed Pugh says:In the midst of "being busy."Jesse Morrell says:i love the simplicity of ChristianityJesse Morrell says:the simplicity of christian faith, divine love, etcEd Pugh says:Amen, me too. Yes, Chanin's post today really convicted me.Greg Gordon says::)¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯++Mike Balog has entered the meeting.¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Ed Pugh says:I played that little clip from Zambia and was praying.Greg Gordon says:niceEd Pugh says:Brother Dave...Ed Pugh says:Hi Brother Mike.Jesse Morrell says:what did channin post?Mike Balog says:hey guys!Jesse Morrell says:hey mikeGreg Gordon says:I had a dream about bro daveGreg Gordon says:that I met him etcGreg Gordon says:heheEd Pugh says:I can get it for you.Greg Gordon says:get what?Jesse Morrell says:well what was the sum of it?Ed Pugh says:The sum of it was that the focus of Christianity is the relationship with Christ. Sometimes we get fixated on other things that are not necessarily bad but the focus should be on Christ and Him alone.Greg Gordon says:thats a good sum of all things! :)Jesse Morrell says:lol yesGreg Gordon says:the sum of saving knoweldge is christ!Ed Pugh says:Yes, Amen.Jesse Morrell says:eternal life is to know himGreg Gordon says:to be technical "the life of Christ"Ed Pugh says:Yes, okay. :)Jesse Morrell says:how much we pray determines how much we know GodGreg Gordon says:@@Greg Gordon says:lolJesse Morrell says:and how much we know God determines how much we prayGreg Gordon says:!!Ed Pugh says:Interesting and true.Mike Balog says:Amen to thatGreg Gordon says:true and interesting actuallyGreg Gordon says::PGreg Gordon says:lolEd Pugh says:lolJesse Morrell says:see how simple it is thoughEd Pugh says:Yes, we tend to make it much more complicated than it is and if we're not careful the flesh will take over.Greg Gordon says:thats why we kill the fleshGreg Gordon says:mortify the membersGreg Gordon says:die to sinGreg Gordon says:either dead to sin or dead in sinGreg Gordon says:you choose :PEd Pugh says:Very true, brother.Ed Pugh says:There's about 500 seats left for Brother Dave's conference in Alabama.Greg Gordon says:niceJesse Morrell says:wilkerson?Ed Pugh says:Yes..Jesse Morrell says:i wish i could goMike Balog says:different from the one in Washington I assume..Ed Pugh says:Yes, the one in Washington is for the youth.Jesse Morrell says:brbMike Balog says:you are going right?Ed Pugh says:The one in B'ham is for leaders. Yep, I'll be there.Mike Balog says:coolEd Pugh says:My wife is excited. She's afraid she won't understand but I told her the Holy Spirit would help her.Greg Gordon says:amenMike Balog says:yeah,Ed Pugh says:English is a tough second language. At least Korean is logical!Mike Balog says:really?Greg Gordon says:heheGreg Gordon says:yea english is dreadfulJesse Morrell says:english is the hardest to learnMike Balog says:now that I think about it...Ed Pugh says:very logical and not all the exceptions we have.Mike Balog says:even for the englishGreg Gordon says:french is a walk in the parkGreg Gordon says:but who would want to know frenchGreg Gordon says:lolEd Pugh says:Oui. Oui... lolMike Balog says:!!Greg Gordon says:lol¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯++Josh Olson has entered the meeting.¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Ed Pugh says:Although I wouldn't have to wear deoderant any longer. :)Mike Balog says:Hey JoshEd Pugh says:Welcome Josh.Greg Gordon says:Hi brother JoshMike Balog says:hehe¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯+++Josh Olson has left the meeting.¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯++Josh Olson has entered the meeting.¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Ed Pugh says:Welcome Josh. You're in!Mike Balog says:you move fast brotherJosh Olson says:here I beMike Balog says:there he is!Josh Olson says:What's happening?Ed Pugh says:Did you see all of the pictures of that Korean man that was killed in Iraq last week? He was praying in one of the pictures.Mike Balog says:Just getting readyEd Pugh says:Hey Josh, just chatting a bit.Mike Balog says:Ed, no...Jesse Morrell says:i believe theone killedlast week was a missionaryJosh Olson says:It did my heart good to hear that he was a brother in the LordMike Balog says:he wasEd Pugh says:He was planning on becoming a missionary but had a secular job at the time.Josh Olson says:yeah...tentmakerMike Balog says:thanks for the clarificationJosh Olson says:where's gregory?Greg Gordon says:I be hereEd Pugh says:He spoke Arabic, Korean, and English.Jesse Morrell says:so many christians die as martyrsJosh Olson says:hey hey!Mike Balog says:multitaskingGreg Gordon says:lolJosh Olson says::)Mike Balog says:"Fingers" GordonGreg Gordon says:LOLGreg Gordon says:Flash GordonGreg Gordon says:anyhow...Mike Balog says:!!Ed Pugh says:lol..Josh Olson says:yes?Greg Gordon says:ENOUGH!!!Greg Gordon says:this is life or death - wilkersonGreg Gordon says:lolGreg Gordon says:sorry had to do thatEd Pugh says:lolJesse Morrell says:hahaJosh Olson says:lolMike Balog says:This should be good on Hudson TaylorMike Balog says:Prayed for you JesseGreg Gordon says:yea it better be no pressure JesseJosh Olson says:yeah, none at all...Mike Balog says:For unctionJesse Morrell says:hudson taylor? whos that?Josh Olson says:lolGreg Gordon says:its hard to mess up taylors life it was an amazing oneGreg Gordon says:lolEd Pugh says:Yeah, it should be great. It's amazing what is going on in China. 20,000 new believers each week.Jesse Morrell says:i thought this was on tommy hilfigureGreg Gordon says:haJosh Olson says:i'm outta here...laterJesse Morrell says:hahaMike Balog says:next week...Josh Olson says:you open-air guys kill meGreg Gordon says:Josh dont you do openair?Josh Olson says:lolJosh Olson says:yeahJesse Morrell says:awesome, where?Greg Gordon says:(see I know Jesse would like that)Greg Gordon says::PJosh Olson says:in Grape Day Park, between the mayor's office and city HallEd Pugh says:Where's that?Josh Olson says:where the street people, prostitutes, drug dealers, murders hang outJosh Olson says:Escondido, CaJesse Morrell says:do you get much of a stir from the peopleJosh Olson says:the enemy doesn't like it, that's for sureEd Pugh says:I still remember Jed Smock from my college days.Josh Olson says:Yeah, prep work mostly now,Jesse Morrell says:i have one of his videosJesse Morrell says:only disagree with about two things from itJosh Olson says:A guy named al knifed his girlfriend, slit her throat and punctured a lung two weeks ago...Jesse Morrell says:she survive?Josh Olson says:he was one I had been sharing with the most in the last monthJosh Olson says:yeahEd Pugh says:While you were there?Jesse Morrell says:i had my throat slit onceJosh Olson says:praise report:Josh Olson says:As I was signing in to hook up with you guys, one of my women leaders just called me and told me that she just got ahold of Janet and is going to see her tomorrow, give her some food and she still wants to come to church in the park (our name) Saturday amJosh Olson says:No I wasn't there at the time, EdMike Balog says:Is this the same woman?Josh Olson says:yesJosh Olson says:sorryMike Balog says:wowMike Balog says:Praise GodJosh Olson says:yepEd Pugh says:Yes, praise God. Let's pray for her tonight.Jesse Morrell says:this mic doesn't seem to want to workJosh Olson says:I don't know where you guys are at, could we take a sec and let me get my 'bearings'?Josh Olson says:where you guys from?Greg Gordon says:you have to tell me first Jesse so I can give you accessJesse Morrell says:connecticutMike Balog says:Santa Clara, CaGreg Gordon says:its onEd Pugh says:Washington DC (Northern Virginia)Josh Olson says:yepGreg Gordon says:yep I can hear greatJosh Olson says:I have a dear brother in the Lord in Northern VirginiaEd Pugh says:Cool. What city?Greg Gordon says:are you still speaking Jesse? I cant hearGreg Gordon says:hmmGreg Gordon says:ok sorry :PGreg Gordon says:lolMike Balog says:praying...Ed Pugh says:can hear now.Greg Gordon says:sure :)Mike Balog says:Ready hereGreg Gordon says:yes sounds greatMike Balog says:yesEd Pugh says:yesJosh Olson says:lol. can't remember now...Stephens city?Josh Olson says:sound familiar?Ed Pugh says:noJosh Olson says:it'll come to meEd Pugh says:I'm thinking though...Greg Gordon says:(Jesse is doing his makeup )Greg Gordon says::PGreg Gordon says:oppsGreg Gordon says:heheMike Balog says:111Josh Olson says:lolGreg Gordon says:amenMike Balog says:amenJosh Olson says:amenGreg Gordon says:AMENEd Pugh says:amenGreg Gordon says:wowMike Balog says:O:Greg Gordon says::oEd Pugh says:Wow, sounds like Samuel.Mike Balog says:left coast style...Josh Olson says:i've prayed that for some of my kidsMike Balog says:coolJosh Olson says:china specificallyEd Pugh says:great Josh.Mike Balog says:!!!Josh Olson says:God is faithfulJosh Olson says:same hereMike Balog says:awesomeJosh Olson says:amenMike Balog says:a fewJosh Olson says::)Ed Pugh says:Dumfries is a city in Virginia.Mike Balog says:wowGreg Gordon says:before: https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=318Greg Gordon says:after: https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=316Ed Pugh says:That's interesting. I wonder what it's like for most missionaries now.Greg Gordon says:yesEd Pugh says:Most of the ones I know are very poor and very happy.Josh Olson says:interesting how those who have alot of financial support are the most miserable on the fieldGreg Gordon says:wowJosh Olson says:like ct studdJosh Olson says:no asking for moneyEd Pugh says:No marketing. Total faith in Christ. Pretty awesome.Mike Balog says:indeedJosh Olson says:yes...Josh Olson says:mueller, tooMike Balog says:yepGreg Gordon says:meuller told of the needGreg Gordon says:but prayed harder:PJosh Olson says:many times only told Brother Craik...Ed Pugh says:China Missionary Alliance. Was that Brother Mueller's/Greg Gordon says:noGreg Gordon says:mueller ran 2 orphanagesGreg Gordon says:by faith over 1000 kidsJosh Olson says:you're thinking 'Christian missionary alliance, a.b. simpsonEd Pugh says:Thanks Josh.Josh Olson says:think he had three homes, gregJosh Olson says:boys, girls and infants homesGreg Gordon says::)Greg Gordon says:hehe 'the good for nothing' churchesJosh Olson says:plus schools, sunday schools, bible literature classesGreg Gordon says:wowEd Pugh says:It's really needed in China. There aren't enough pastors there. We have a small Bible school there but it moves often because of the police.Josh Olson says:oh oh...we need to talk, Ed...Josh Olson says:you're involved over in China?Ed Pugh says:The pastors there are like the old circuit riders (except on bicycle).Josh Olson says:we gotta talk another time, brotherEd Pugh says:Not directly, we support it. I'm praying I can go to Uzbekistan next year. Sure Josh.Josh Olson says:coolJosh Olson says:openarmsinc@sbcglobal.netEd Pugh says:mistered22041@yahoo.comGreg Gordon says:spams both emails :PEd Pugh says:lolMike Balog says:like thatGreg Gordon says:yeaMike Balog says:excellentGreg Gordon says:wowMike Balog says:wowGreg Gordon says:im taking notes mikeGreg Gordon says:heheMike Balog says:how backwardsMike Balog says:lolJosh Olson says:ha ha haMike Balog says:(front lines running the show)Josh Olson says:we'll forgive you, JesseEd Pugh says:Adopting the culture. I wonder how much of western mission work involves the culture, rather than Christ? That's interesting.Greg Gordon says:good point EdJosh Olson says:yeahJosh Olson says:been chewing on that one EdMike Balog says:Preaching and healing!Josh Olson says:sounds ALOT like C. T. Studd in AfricaGreg Gordon says:ouchMike Balog says:always someone....Ed Pugh says:yeah, seems like that's true.Josh Olson says:I know a guy in Tibet right now...in the last Buddhist kingdom on earth...totally unreached people group...Josh Olson says:his name is MikeMike Balog says:Christian?Josh Olson says:pray for him...his wife is really sickJosh Olson says:yeahMike Balog says:doneGreg Gordon says:yahooGreg Gordon says:heheJosh Olson says:lolEd Pugh says:We'll pray for him.Greg Gordon says:studd is the manEd Pugh says:her..Greg Gordon says:I still like meat better than creamMike Balog says:checkGreg Gordon says:better then milk thoughJosh Olson says:thanks. God is faithful...He is friends with the king's son, I found out last night...Ed Pugh says:What's interesting to see is that even some Buddhist monks are now persecuting Christians. The enemy knows his time is short.Josh Olson says:yeah...Greg Gordon says:lolGreg Gordon says:thats faithEd Pugh says:amen.Josh Olson says:AMEN, JESSEMike Balog says:no doubtMike Balog says:love thatJosh Olson says:"I have found that there are three stages in every great work of God: first, it is impossible, then it is difficult, then it is done." - Hudson TaylorEd Pugh says:Amen!Josh Olson says:awesomeJosh Olson says:someone shared that with me today...Ed Pugh says:Yeah, I saw it too. SermonIndex?Josh Olson says:heheheGreg Gordon says:yep im guilty on both accoutnsGreg Gordon says:lolJosh Olson says:greg messaged meEd Pugh says:lolGreg Gordon says:spreading the good news :PJosh Olson says:man, he's pushy isn't he?Greg Gordon says:haMike Balog says:in a nice wayJosh Olson says:Isn't this kind of like writing notes as the pastor is teaching?Josh Olson says:I feel guiltyGreg Gordon says:woeJosh Olson says:heavyEd Pugh says:wowJosh Olson says:blood watering the seed of the gospel...Josh Olson says:look at the fruit todayGreg Gordon says:shhh no talking when the pastor is speakingGreg Gordon says:heheJosh Olson says:lolEd Pugh says:lolJosh Olson says:bustedMike Balog says:wowJosh Olson says:stir us up, LordJosh Olson says:pray for the heathen and preach to the heathenJosh Olson says:Psalm 96:3Josh Olson says:"Declare My glory among the heathen..."Ed Pugh says:Isaiah 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.Josh Olson says:where is the Hudson Taylor of today?Josh Olson says:amen, brother Jesse.Ed Pugh says:Amen brother Jesse.Mike Balog says:well done brotherGreg Gordon says:amen.. praise God very stirring lifeJosh Olson says:too muchJesse Morrell says:tonight was more teaching then preachingJosh Olson says:we need it all, broJesse Morrell says:absolutelyJosh Olson says:I got too much to say, Jess and no otime to do it...Greg Gordon says:lolJosh Olson says:lolGreg Gordon says:hahhaEd Pugh says:yes indeed, I think most of us feel we've done our part if we support a missionary or two.Ed Pugh says:How wrong is that/Greg Gordon says:very wrongJosh Olson says:wrong wrong wrongGreg Gordon says:oopss Jesse you answer that oneGreg Gordon says:heheJosh Olson says:it'd not the doing...its the beingEd Pugh says:Wrong it is..Josh Olson says:don't do your devotions...be devotedJosh Olson says:don't go to church...be the churchJesse Morrell says:we coul merely give our money to missions, or we coul give ourselves. that doesn't mean you have to be a missionary, but it means making sacrifices so you coul give more money etcJosh Olson says:don't do mission work...be a missionJosh Olson says:give it allJesse Morrell says:it must never be giving what we can spareJosh Olson says:I read Ravenhill's tombstone today...Jesse Morrell says:i believe the spreading of the gospel is either our life, or we don't truly understand the gospel at allJesse Morrell says:you were in garden valley?Josh Olson says:"Is what you are living for worth Christ dying for?Jesse Morrell says:i been there, right next to ketithgreenJosh Olson says:via internetJesse Morrell says:ohJosh Olson says::)Greg Gordon says:where?Ed Pugh says:True, but how do we focus on our brothers and sisters in other countries? What's the URL for that Josh?Greg Gordon says:gimmie gimmieJesse Morrell says:i am going back to that area, i want to find mr ravenhills widow and offer to help around the house, taking out the trash once a week etcJosh Olson says:she's with the Lord too...hold on a secGreg Gordon says:david ravenhill owns the houseJesse Morrell says:ohGreg Gordon says:I think his wife is dead also?Greg Gordon says:david ravenhill lives there sometimes I believeJosh Olson says:just search for leonard Ravenhill under images on the netGreg Gordon says:he is safe guarding the libraryGreg Gordon says::PJesse Morrell says:well, i'll go and find himJosh Olson says:gotta go take care of the kiddies, brothers. God Bless. See you on the site?Jesse Morrell says:take careJosh Olson says:email meEd Pugh says:Sure, drop me a line Josh!Josh Olson says:openarmsinc@sbcglobal.netGreg Gordon says:thanks for coming brother JoshGreg Gordon says:yep spam is coming right awayJosh Olson says:you betEd Pugh says:lolJosh Olson says:thanks spammanJosh Olson says:blessingsMike Balog says:Take care JoshJosh Olson says:lemme know when we do this agianGreg Gordon says:cyaJosh Olson says:I want to be on the board, gregGreg Gordon says:its on the front page of SermonIndexGreg Gordon says:top rightJosh Olson says:Thanks JesseJosh Olson says:you're a blessingJosh Olson says:thanks for preparingJosh Olson says:and sharingJosh Olson says:laterJesse Morrell says:take care, thanks for coming¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯+++Josh Olson has left the meeting.¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Ed Pugh says:Yes, we can learn much from the saints of old.Greg Gordon says:yes I belive its necessary in the day we liveJesse Morrell says:i absolutely love studying on men of God from historyGreg Gordon says:we need to realize from the heights we have fallenJesse Morrell says:there aren'tmany men of God leftJesse Morrell says:exactly gregGreg Gordon says:"We are paddling on the edge of the possibilities of Grace" - Leonard RAvenhillJesse Morrell says:i worry what will happen after Wilkerson leaves us, who else will rise up?Greg Gordon says:and he says next "Put a holy dissatisfaction in us tonight"Ed Pugh says:true, I think we've put God in such a small box, no wonder we don't see more than what we do. It's our unbelief, I believe that's one think that has to be totally purged in us.Greg Gordon says:unbelief is the worst sin of our age int eh churchGreg Gordon says:definetlyJesse Morrell says:i just want to see us get back to thebibleJesse Morrell says:wouln't that be nice?¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯Meeting Owner: Greg GordonCurrent Attendees: carol anderson, Jesse Morrell, Mike Balog, Mark Wycihowski, matt grace, Ed Pugh, Josh OlsonEntered Meeting At: 2004-6-29 7:42:18 PMFile Saved at: 2004-6-29 9:19:12 PM

sermonindex Jun 30, 2004

Here is the audio recording of the Live Seminar that just occoured on the Life of Hudson Taylor:Hudson Taylor with Jesse Morrell - Christian History Magazine said "In 1854, some 380 million in the vast China interior had never seen a Westerner nor heard the name of Christ. That spring, a young Englishman landed in Shanghai determined to change that." Why is the name of Hudson Taylor still remembered today? What means did he use to spread the gospel which made him so successful? What can be learned from him today?

sermonindex Jun 30, 2004

Here are the speakers seminar notes for reference:---In the beginning-1832 James Taylor and Maria Taylor, Yorkshire England, prayed “Dear God, If you should give us a son, grant that he may work for you in china.-Hudson Taylor born May 21, 1832-Born into a Methodist family-Hudson wanted to be a china missionary without knowledge of his parent’s prayers. -Converted at age 17, after rebellious season. 50 miles away from home mother locked her self up for prayer and determined not to leave until her son was saved. Praying like that gets God’s attention. -Saved by a tract about the finished work of Christ and said he accepted “this Savior and this salvation.”First trip to China- During night of intense prayer his call to china was confirmed. He was a man of prayer, plenty of men preach, not many men pray.-Next few years spent fervently studying language, medicine, and the bible.-Age 21, Monday Sep 19th, 1853. A three massed clipper “Dumfries” weighing less then 500 tons, took Taylor to China. He had faith that worked, and working faith, because faith without works is dead.-Terrible storm, convinced they would die, trusted God, content to die trying to obey God.-Arrive Shanghai March 1854-Worked for Chinese Evangelization Society started by Karl Gutzlaff-Same year, clothing and hair Chinese. He was ahead of his time. Like hair Krishna’s in America.-Taylor saw missionaries living in luxury and thought they were worldly. K P Yohannas Book same thing.-Less pay then everyone else. Most $700 a year not including rent, he received $80 including rent.-Dec. 1854, with Joseph Edkins, sailed with bibles and tracts to people on Huangpu River. Crowds drew, mobs threatened, escaped by hopping a boat.Left CES-1857 Taylor resigned from C.E.S. after much prayer, finding it insufficient.-Trusted God for finances, no asking for donations or even letting friends/family know situation.-Married Jan 1858 Maria Dyer, 20yrs old. Same heart beat for China.-By March 1860, his church and Ningpo had 21 members.Return to England-1861 caught a disease, went back to England to recover.-at home translated bible and recruited missionaries.-Frustrated with other Christians in 1865 “Can all the Christians of England sit still with folded arms while these multitudes (in china) are perishing-perishing for lack of knowledge, for lack of that knowledge which England possesses so richly, which has made England what England is and made us what we are? What does the Master teach us? Is it not that if one sheep out of a hundred be lost, we are to leave the ninety nine to seek one? But here the proportions are almost reversed, and we stay at home with the one sheep, and take no heed to the ninety and nine perishing ones!” Because our hearts do not burn within us, souls burn in hell. Some say their church doesn’t witness, well I know the name of their church. It must be the “good for nothing” church. I didn’t say it, Jesus said it. Vision for new organization-Mission Organizations were confined to only 5 treaty ports. Hudson realized a new organization was needed to evangelize the rest of China. Wanted 24 missionaries, 2 for reach of the eleven inland provinces of China that were without a missionary, and two for Mongolia. At the time there were only total of 90 Protestant missionaries in China. Hudson planned on increasing that over 25% himself. -Started China Inland Mission with 5 missionaries, hesitant and fearful. He could not sleep more then 2 hours in 1865.-Friend concerned for his health invited him to a weekend break in Brighton. Hudson slipped out after worship because he could not bear the site of seeing a congregation of a thousand or more rejoicing in their security while china goes to hell. One walk on beach he found peace and comfort.-China Inland Missions distinct features were:1) Not any specific denomination2) No set salary/ no debt3) No appeals for funds4) Directed by leaders on frontlines, not home committees.5) Go into the interior of China6) Chinese clothing/ adopt culture.Back to China-Within one year, Hudson’s family, 16 missionaries, leave London for China to join 2 other missionaries already laboring in China for CIM. - Town’s of Hangchow (Hangzhou) and Hsiaosha (Xiaoshan) worked in medical care and treatment and preaching.-1867 missionary John Mc Carthy from Dublin describes the scene when he arrived. It was a Chinese New Year; a crowd was outside the CIM Clinic, venders selling, Taylor preaching open air on a table to the people.-200 patients daily.- Mat Usiu, converted at Ningpo, also preached as people waiting medical treatment.Some trouble.- Lewis Nicol, a CIM missionary, complained about the way things were run and even spread lies. Preferred English clothing for respect and protection. Hudson hesitant of his release, but did so and 3 others left with him.-Some from other society complained that Hudson had single men and women living together. Hudson and Maria kissed others on forehead before bed. Some loss of support back in London.-1870 Baptist Welshmen Timothy Richards won over CIM members. Said you could use similarities from Buddhism and Confucianism to influence china to Christ. Very liberal. CIM suffered.Still going forth-CIM still grew. 1876, 18 new missionaries set sail for China, totally 52 missionaries for CIM.-Expanded to reach areas such as Honan (Henan), Shens (Shaanxi), Kansu (Gansu), Hunan, Kweichow (Guizhou) and at least one reached Tibet. -Despite more criticism, began sending unmarried women into the interior.-1881 prayed for another 70 missionaries, by 1884 had 76. -1882 had 56 wives, and 95 single missionaries-1885 the Cambridge Seven joins. C. T. Stud the famous captain of Cambridge Cricket team. Studd also inherited several million dollars which he used to help support Moody Bible Institude and the for Salvation Army missionaries to come to china. Also famous Stanley Smith, captain of Cambridge rowing team who had a soap box in Hyde park where he preached open-air what he called “not the milk and water of religion, but the cream of the gospel.” -1886 praying for another 100 missionaries. A prayer without faith is a prayer that will go unanswered. The only answered prayer is a faithful prayer.-Veteran missionary said “I am delighted to hear that you are praying for large reinforcements. You will not get a hundred, of course, with the year, but you will get many more than if you did not ask for them.” Hudson said “Thank you for your interest, we have the joy of knowing our prayers answered now. And I feel sure that, if spared, you will share the joy or welcoming the last of the hundred to China!” By Nov. 1887, 102 candidates accepted and had enough money for their passage to China.-Grew to be the largest organization in China and had influences in all 18 provinces of China.“I have found that there are three stages in every great work of God: first it is impossible, then it is difficult, then it is done.” H. TaylorMore Trouble temperature rising-Riot had CIM house attached, family injured and other missionaries hurt. London debated on whether or not these missionaries were good for British trade.-Rivalry between counsels caused 30 missionaries to resign. Hudson wanted those near to the frontlines to have executive power.Still being strong- Taylor said “China is not to be won for Christ by quite, ease loving men and women…. The stamp men and women we need is such as will put Jesus, China, souls, first and foremost in everything and at every time- even life itself must be secondary.” - He was a strong man. Despite poor healthy and depressions he labored. His depression, which is a spiritual battle, was at times so severe that he wanted to die. The job was so enormous, but God is still bigger.Nearly had a complete physical and mental break down in 1890 during speaking tour in the United States.-His wife died at age 33. 8 of his children died before reaching age 10.- 1900, Taylor was in Switzerland when the Boxer Rebellion Spread through China. 58 Missionaries and 21 children killed. Others catch on-by the end of his life, those who once scoffed at his methods were adopted them.-After Taylor’s death- young Chinese Evangelist looked upon the body and said “dear and venerable Pastor, we too are your little children. You opened for us the road to heaven. We do not want to bring you back, but we will follow you.”Lessons to learn: Faith and trust, courage and bravery, pressing forward, perseverance, compassion, not to settle for second best.

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