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Mattie May 23, 2008

I believe one of the most ignored topics in the church of the Western world, perhaps maybe around the world, is the issue of sexual sin. Paul says in Ephesians 5:11-12 "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret." Paul wrote this to the church of Ephesus, a city within the sensual culture of the Greeks at the time. Prostitution, homosexuality, sodomy, and many horrific acts were being done publicly, proudly and openly during the time Paul wrote this letter. And his response is that we are to expose it.

Satan is looking to do to the saints of God, particularly the men, what he has done throughout history - lure him away from full reliance of God's Holy Spirit to become captivated by sex. Samson I believe is a type of what Satan is looking to do in these last days to men of God.

Because we have been silent about sexual sin in the church, things are kept hidden, and are not being dealt with. As a result, countless multitudes are being swept away from a pure heart and sincere faith and a good conscience, and most importantly being effective witnesses for Jesus Christ under the anointing and power of the Holy Spirit. PULPITS MUST EXPOSE THIS SIN AND CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS. I believe sexual sin is ONE of the major issues hindering the church from revival.

I heard a pastor say once, 99% of men are tempted by lust, the other 1% are lying. The temptation will always be there men. We'd be liars if we said we weren't tempted. But praise God, the stronghold of it does not have to stay. Praise God for His glorious work on the cross, bearing the shame and guilt of our sin, and providing for us His divine nature to escape the corrupted world around us.

Let's heed the warning of Proverbs reference to seduction in Proverbs 7:26 "She has cast down many wounded, and all who were slain by her were strong men. Her house is the way to hell, descending to the chambers of death."

As men, we are too self righteous to confess such things. We want to appear godly and mighty before men and especially, women. We want to attract people to something "good" in us. The thought must be crucified. There is nothing good in man. We must expose the deeds of darkness.

There is hope out of such a life. Jesus Christ is our hope. The way out is not a 10 step method, more praying or more Bible reading (as important as prayer and study is). The only way out is the death, resurrection, ascension and present Life of Jesus Christ! It is a Man, not a method. It is a Person, not principles. It is His work, not our works. It is His mercy, not our motivation. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

God, keep us men in the days ahead in the power of your Spirit to walk upright and truthful.

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LoveHim May 23, 2008

There is hope out of such a life. Jesus Christ is our hope. The way out is not a 10 step method, more praying or more Bible reading (as important as prayer and study is). The only way out is the death, resurrection, ascension and present Life of Jesus Christ! It is a Man, not a method. It is a Person, not principles. It is His work, not our works. It is His mercy, not our motivation. Blessed be the name of the Lord.
amen mattie, let us see Him as our victory, Him as our strength, and Him as everything that we can possibly ever need. as watchman nee says "God doesn't give us gifts and things apart from Christ, but everything He gives us is wrapped up in Christ, because Christ is the sum of all spiritual things"(paraphrase).
God, keep us men in the days ahead in the power of your Spirit to walk upright and truthful.
amen brother, amen.

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ginnyrose May 23, 2008

As men, we

You a male? My, your handle sure had me fooled! :-x My mother-in-law's name was Mattie!

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Mattie May 23, 2008

We have to be ready as a church to know how to deal with the types of people who will come into our fellowship as days continue, ESPECIALLY the youth.

When Paul planted churches in Corinth, Thessalonica, Ephesus, etc - he was dealing with these kinds of things. When we read his letters, we do not see Paul shying away from the issues that took place. He dealt with it head on.

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Mattie wrote:


There is hope out of such a life. Jesus Christ is our hope. The way out is not a 10 step method, more praying or more Bible reading (as important as prayer and study is). The only way out is the death, resurrection, ascension and present Life of Jesus Christ! It is a Man, not a method. It is a Person, not principles. It is His work, not our works. It is His mercy, not our motivation. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

God, keep us men in the days ahead in the power of your Spirit to walk upright and truthful.

Amee Mattie,
I am in the 99% bracket. On a scale of 10, 10 being the worst in lust, I have fallen from a 9.5 to less than a 1%. It has been through His power that I have improved, when I do fail in sin of lust, I always try to confess those 1% moments to HIM right then. Sexual sin is one for many that is hardest to deal with. Joseph ran, he knew if he thought about long enough he might fail. You know Potifer's wife was a looker knowing that the main man had his pick of the women.
If we say we have sin we deceive our selves and the truth is not in us.
2 Cor 10:5
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
KJV


Moe

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Ruach34 May 23, 2008

Matthew 1:21 - "...He will free His people from their sins."

amen, to this post! May the Lord grant His strength and grace, so that men will quit adulterating themselves with sexual sins; whether it be looking at pages or actually in bed...it is all the same!

What a blight.

We need the character of men like Urriah the Hittite, that would not go into his beautiful wife, all to honor his men who were away in battle.

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Victory Is A Man
by Chip Brogden
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Everyone who looks does not see. Everyone who hears does not listen. What are we looking for? What is it that we need to see? What would God reveal to us? There is but one desire of God for us, and that is that we may see Christ. God does not reveal one hundred, one thousand, or one million things to us. He is pleased to give us His Son, and He delights for us to look only to Him. Not even the things He gives, but to Him who is the Gift. We may pray for revelation into a great many matters, but only one thing is important to God, that is, that we may have revelation into the Son. If we know the Son, if we possess the Son, if we see the Son, we know and possess and see all that God has and is, for He has deposited all of Himself into His Son, and all of His Son He deposited into us.

As we progress we begin to ask for and seek spiritual "things" in order to have a victorious Christian life. We learn to do this from watching what everyone else is doing. We seek many blessings from God. We pray many prayers and make many requests. Sometimes it seems we are given what we ask for, and sometimes it seems we are unchanged. So we struggle on, always searching for something out in space a thousand miles away that will change us from being defeated to being victorious.

The whole problem is that we view victory as something out in the twilight zone of the Spirit, while we are struggling along here on Planet Earth, toiling and sweating as we wrestle and fight against a powerful adversary. To us, victory is something we do not have, something we cannot see, something we are not experiencing, something that we must search for and diligently seek out until we find it. The routine of daily life becomes old. We hope to find the victory we seek in a new book, or a tape, or a teaching, or a ministry, or a church, or a group, or a video, or a seminar, or a special speaker, or a website, or a special discipline, or a spiritual regimen. We go through them one by one, and some of them even seem to work short-term, but eventually they will sit on the shelf in the recesses of our mind, collecting dust and never being put into practice beyond the initial excitement of having learned a new thing or riding the wave of the latest spiritual fad.

God does not give us a thing called victory. Instead, He gives us His Son to be our Victory. Christ is Victory. It is not a question of going forth to war in the name of Jesus and claiming the victory in advance. May I say that Victory does not depend upon whether you "claim" anything or not. Victory is a Man! Overcoming is entering into Victory Himself, being clothed with Victory, sharing in the Life of One Who overcame. Thus, our victory is bound up in the Lord Himself. It is not a separate grace or gift which He grants to certain ones who learn some principles of spiritual warfare.

People are looking for a technique or method by which they may work out a victory on behalf of Christ. Not surprisingly everyone has their own way of waging warfare. Some emphasize intercessory prayer, and believe the secret is in getting hundreds of people praying for the same thing. Others lean towards praise and worship. Some stress binding and loosing. Others believe the key is in locating and naming certain spirits which supposedly control different parts of the world. Still others think there must be some prophetic act to be performed or declaration to be made. Here is the problem with virtually all of these things: they are just that - THINGS - methods, techniques, teachings, strategies, but they are not Christ. Victory is not this, that, or the other. It is not some spiritual thing. Victory is a God-Man. The one in Christ is seated with Him in the heavenly places. If we see ourselves in Him then we cannot help but understand that since the battle is already won, and Victory is ours, then we do not need a method or a technique designed to "get" a victory which we already possess.

The problem with a spiritual warfare "method" is it deceives us into thinking we have something with which we may overcome the enemy. We do not. If yours is a "method", then the method will fail. There are no methods for Salvation, for Christ is Way. He does not show us the way, He is Way. Similarly, Christ is not present with us in order to show us a way to victory. He is Victory. If we have any hope of overcoming by taking a little piece of Christ and incorporating it into our spiritual warfare program then we have failed before we have begun.

We must realize that our grounds and basis for victory is Christ. The many schemes, plans, formulas, and strategies that we devise in order to gain some sort of advantage over the enemy are but wood, hay, and stubble. Why do we seek such methods? Because we have not seen ourselves seated with Christ in the heavenly realm.

WINNING THE WAR BUT LOSING THE BATTLE

Let us look at some spiritual warfare methods. There is a distinctive amongst these methods, that is, darkness is glorified, darkness is talked about, darkness is exalted. Such teachings are, for the most part, enemy-oriented. Where is the revelation of Christ? It is not to be found. Instead, we are often told to seek revelation into satan, the demons, the works of darkness, and how we may overcome them.

For instance, we have been told that we must discern the names of the principalities and powers over certain areas in order to bind, rebuke, and cast them out. How does this method glorify darkness? It does it by getting people to seek revelation into other "things" apart from Christ. When we engage in this pursuit we are no longer praying for the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Christ, we are instead praying for the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of satan. Since God does not reveal anything to us apart from His Son, from whence comes the "revelation" of satan?

As Christians we use a lot of spiritual phraseology without understanding what it really means. For instance, we say, "The battle is already won." What does this mean? If we take it for what it says, it means that there is no fighting left to do, and we are already victorious. It means either victory has been handed to us, or we have already fought the battle and won. Both of these have, in fact, been done for us in Christ. We have been handed a victory, and we have also already fought a battle in which we obtained the victory. On the one hand, we did nothing at all for it, and on the other hand we have already fought the battle: yet not we ourselves, but through Christ. Since Christ overcomes, and I am in Him, I overcome as though I fought the battle myself.

This ought to be good news to us. But for the most part our Christian experience is more along of the lines of winning the war but losing the battle. Some have accepted this situation as inevitable so long as they live on the earth. They do not see victory on this side of heaven. They want to believe that Christ has really overcome the devil and destroyed all the works of the enemy, but then they look at their own failures and defeats and wonder why they are losing the battles if they have already won the war. Well, that is a good question. Here is another question to consider: if the war is already won, why are we still fighting battles at all? Why wrestle when we can stand?

Can you see the difference between wrestling for a victory that I do not have, and standing in a Victory that is mine already? How can we see the difference in our experience? It is quite easy to mark where we are and see if we are living and walking in the truth. When we fight according to the flesh we have no choice but to wrestle. But when the enemy is spiritual, we wrestle by STANDING, not by fighting.

If I see victory as something that I have to wrestle the devil for then I will be under great stress of spirit, soul, and body, looking for the devil under every rock and in every dark corner. At the slightest discomfort or annoyance I will presume the adversary is out to get me again. I will become obsessed with darkness, demons, and devils. The more you swat at a hornet the more likely you are to be stung. And sure enough, the more attention I pay to the devil, the more diligent he is to harass me.

I will experience lots of failures and very few victories. Whatever victory I do experience is fleeting and brief. Just when I think I have bound the devil he gets loosed again, and I am in for yet another round. Around and around we go. He goes, and comes, and goes, and comes. I resist, he flees, and comes again. My dreams bother me by night and flashing thoughts disturb me by day. Since I am fighting the devil I have to take time out to "come against" every single thought. I have to answer every single accusation. The tiniest temptations become huge weights. I have little joy, no peace, no real confidence. Only fear: fear of failing, fear of giving ground to the devil, fear of what he might throw at me next. This is what many people call spiritual warfare. It is not. What I have described is wrestling as a flesh and blood person who is following flesh and blood rules. For...

VICTORY IS A MAN, NOT A METHOD

When God is pleased to reveal His Son to us, we will learn that Victory is not a thing, but a Person; that Victory is not an experience, but a Man; that God does not give me a thing called victory, but has given me His Son in the place of victory in order to be my Victory. Then Victory will never be future-tense and far-away, but Ever Present and Now. For Victory is Christ. And Victory lives within you. Thus, Victory has nothing to do with the devil, and everything to do with Christ. Since most Christians have more faith, assurance and reverence for the devil than they do for the Lord Jesus, it is easy to see why so many are defeated.

God revealed His Son to me only after I had failed as a pastor, when my church was closed, when I had thrown away all my books and tapes and magazines and notes on spiritual warfare and was left with nothing but Christ. I had looked for victory in spiritual warfare by focusing my attention on the devil, but God never taught me anything about spiritual warfare, nor did He reveal anything to me about the devil. He taught me concerning His Son. God did not show me how to be victorious, He merely revealed His Son to me as Victory. Having done this, it was sufficient to make me victorious. I remember the day when it happened. I was sitting in my backyard one morning with my Scripture translations opened to Ephesians and two texts before me. The first was:

"And what is the exceeding greatness of His power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of His mighty power, Which He wrought in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead, and set Him at His own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is His body, the fullness of Him that filleth all in all" (Ephesians 1:19-23).

I was thankful for this passage, but it did not register much with me. Praise the Lord that Christ is risen from the dead and is exalted far above every principality and power, demon and devil. This I can agree with. This I can believe in. But I found no comfort for me in my particular battle. I did not doubt the Lord Jesus' victory, I doubted MY victory.

So I did not understand the significance of the first passage until I read the second passage before me:

"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus" (Ephesians 2:6).

Now I had read Ephesians through probably one hundred times, but something arrested my attention on that day. A beam of light struck me and the words seemed to leap up from off the page and slap me in the face. I stopped for a moment and read the first passage again, then the second passage. "...He raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named... And raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus."

Together, together, together, together...For the first time in my life, I saw Christ, sitting at God's right hand. And I saw myself seated with Him. His victory is my victory. TOGETHER we were raised from the dead, TOGETHER we were set at the right hand of God in the heavenlies, TOGETHER we were seated far above ALL principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named! I began to laugh at my own stupidity. What is there left for me to do now that I am far above all these things? What is left for me to fight? I can find nothing to do now except to simply abide in Christ and allow Him to be my Victory, just as I allow Him to be my Salvation.

I did not come to this conclusion after years of study. I did not learn it from any Bible teacher. It came to me fromout of the clear blue sky. There it was, right there in the Bible. How could I have missed this? I missed it because my eyes had looked, but had not seen. I had scanned over the verses with my eyes and memorized them, but they never struck me to the ground. They never took up residence within me. They were letters in a book, good letters, wonderful words, but nothing that lived or breathed in me. I did not see Christ in the Book until that moment.

I looked up from where I was sitting, and I do not think I was in the Spirit, and I do not think I had a vision, but it was as though I could see beyond the sky and all the way up into Heaven. Everything from the Cross through the Throne was spread before me. Now that I could clearly see myself seated with Christ everything fell into place. For if I was seated with Him, I had to have been raised with Him! And if I was raised with Him, I had to have died with Him! And if I died with Him, I had to have been crucified with Him!

Everything opened up before me in an instant. Whether I saw it in my mind's eye or with my heart I am not sure, but I saw Christ on the cross, and me crucified with Him (Galatians 2:20). I saw myself buried with Him by baptism into death (Romans 6:3). I saw myself raised with Him to newness of life (Romans 6:4). I saw myself ascended with Him, and seated with Him in heavenly places. I saw it backwards and forwards, upside down and rightside up. But I did not have the words to describe it. Even today I have a hard time explaining it. All I can say is, "I saw it." It sounds so plain and uninteresting that way, because I do not claim to have seen an actual vision, yet it was indeed a seeing. It was definitely a perceiving.

I finally realized that victory over the enemy would never be a problem ever again. From that day onward I understood that my victory was secured by Christ Himself, and there was nothing left for me to do or to obtain but to receive His finished work and accept His Victory as my victory. As surely as Christ does not struggle with the devil, as certain as His overcoming is, so certain is my overcoming with Him. I thank and praise God that today Christ is Victory.

CHRIST IS REST FROM OUR LABOR

By revelation I understood that we may "stand therefore" only when we have learned to sit with Christ, that it is more about rest and faith, and less about fighting and struggling. Seeing myself in Christ for the first time was like walking out of one room and into another, closing the door behind me. I got a glimpse into another world that was beyond me. Finally I saw the inconsistency of claiming Christ as my "victory", or even asking Christ to give me the "victory", and then battling my way through life as if I still had to do something to earn it. Because if Victory is MINE then there is nothing left to do but praise God for it and live out of it.

There is no higher place in the universe than to be seated with Christ in the heavenly places. Indeed, since Christ is larger than the universe, then to be seated with Christ is to be above and beyond all time and space and dimension as we know it. To be seated with Christ is to overcome as He has overcome. It is entering into His victory. It is not a fight to obtain victory, but a sitting down having already been made victorious. It is rest, but it is not "rest" in the sense that we do nothing. It means we have rested from our labors and now we work according to His power which works in us and through us.

God does not give us victory, God places us into Christ as our Victory. Since we are one with Him, it is nevermore a question of our ability, gifts, talents, or power. Everything we ARE is swallowed up and eclipsed and surpassed by everything HE IS. Today, in Christ, I overcome: but not because I am anything. On the contrary I am nothing. But since I am in Christ, Who is God's Everything, His overcoming is my overcoming. If the Head overcomes, so does the Body which is joined to the Head. If the Vine overcomes, so do the branches which are joined to the Vine. Can you see this? Take the weakest member and put it in union with the Head and they will go the way the Head goes. Take the weakest branch and put it in union with the Vine and it will go the way the Vine goes.

When we begin looking to the Son as the Sum of All Things then we are giving Christ the preeminence. We are entering into the very heart, mind, thought, intent, purpose, and plan of God - that Christ Himself would fill all things, that His glory would be reflected in all things. If our way is a method, then the method gets the attention, and the man who created the method gets the credit, and the people who put the method into practice get the glory. But if my "method" is Christ, then Christ gets all the attention, Christ gets all the credit, and Christ gets all the glory. In this way Christ is magnified, the heart of God is satisfied, and we ourselves are attuned to His Will in Christ

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I have a Christian friend, who has three daughters, who lives in in a city of 150,000 in Northern California. His girls are grown, and on their own, and one by one, they moved in with nonchristian young men to live, without a marriage covenant.

These girls, though, kept up their fellowship in various churches in that community, attending regularly on Sundays. My friend became frustrated, as there was never a confrontation. It seemed as though the Pastors accepted their lifestyles as normal. He then decided to confront these elders, and he did, asking them why?, with an open Bible.

The answers he received were similar from each leader. "That's not my business. The word will convict, not I" Not one Pastor would budge.


One can only guess why. Here is my guess. It is unpopular to preach holiness and moral purity as the only way to God. It is unpopular to speak about the many passages that solemnly declare that a fornicator will be sent to Hades, and has no inheritance in the Kingdom of God.[along with a greedy "christian", or an idolatrous one [materialistic to subduing Christ under neath your wealth...]etc.]

An unpopular Pastor may mean a poor Pastor.[often it will] "Why does the hireling flee?...because he is a hireling." This is another phrase for the professional ministry. It's their [b]JOB[/b]. Bread and butter. The clergy, the separate.

"Once you start this holiness stuff, the next thing you know, no church, and I'm down at the car wash!"...When pleasing the people becomes imperative to being a success or not, as opposed to the success that comes from pleasing God alone, then every man of God has a choice to make, doesn't he[ or she].


If people choose to fornicate, engage in any manner of perverted lust and wickedness, that is up to them. In doing so, they must be made aware that they are rejecting God, and unless they return, and find Him, they will forever be tormented in a real Hell designed for Satan and his angels. Without holiness, NO body will enter Heaven.

The church of Jesus is the only vehicle that can bring us inside of Heaven's gate. There is no other way, no matter how lovey or dovey you may feel, or how nice your fornicating friends are. Our shame is our Pastors, so called, that have compromised the truth, and opened Hades black gate, all in the name of love and tolerance.

As far as the World goes, it is written that these last days would be like Sodom and Gomorrah, and as the days of Noah, when everyone did what was right in their own eyes. We are engaged in something bigger than a river of filth. It is a tsunami of filth, that grows and strengthens every day. Our children are sucked into it every day.

Not only is it OK, it is the right thing to do, to be happy and fulfilled. Hell has a big mouth.

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Mattie May 23, 2008

The Scriptures are extremely detailed when it comes to sexual sin. From Genesis to Revelation we see what the effects of it does to a man, as well as the freedom from it.

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Mattie wrote:
The Scriptures are extremely detailed when it comes to sexual sin. From Genesis to Revelation we see what the effects of it does to a man, as well as the freedom from it.

I was referring to those very remote instances of lustful thoughts Mattie. If we put action with those thoughts and it gives birth to sin, that's sin. If we allow our minds to dwell on those, then they will be become sin. As a man think, so is he. As the Pastor you quoted, he was very truthful in all men do have some thoughts if he is breathing.
Moe

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Mattie May 23, 2008

thank you for your honesty on the issue moe_mac.

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boG May 23, 2008

This is very true: temptation does not equal sin.

James 1
13. Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone.
14. But each one [b][u]is tempted[/b][/u] when he is [b]carried away and enticed by his own lust[/b].
15. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death.
16. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.


Another way of seeing this same principle ...

When Jesus says, "then will I profess unto them, I never [b]knew you[/b]: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."


On the one hand we have intimacy with sin, giving birth to death. On the other, intimacy with Christ, giving birth to the spirit of adoption, by which we are called sons of God.

This "knew you" is the same as when Adam "knew" his wife. (By no means to suggest anything like grotesque Mormon doctrine.) But, rather, as in these next verses ...

1 Corinthians 6
15. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take away the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? May it never be!
16. Or do you not know that the [b]one who joins himself to a prostitute[/b] [u]is one body with her[/u]? For He says, "THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH."
17. [u]But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him[/u]. ([b]This is the "knew you" that makes us Christians[/b].)
18. Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man [b]sins against his own body[/b].
19. Or do you not know that [b]your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you[/b], whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
20. For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.


As Jesus was tempted in all points even as we, yet, without sin. So are we also able to be tempted in all points (even by those sins which easily beset a man) and not sin. Because God always gives a way of escape, that is, Jesus Christ. And we shall never be tempted by more than we can bear, so that we are without excuse.

If God was not merciful towards us and withheld the power of sin from overwhelming us then we could live in sin and the judgment of sin would be unjust. However, we know this is not the case. The reason we sin is simple, "we love our sin and want to stay in it." And I can assure you that if you love your sin you cannot love God; in fact, you hate Him.

I am sure this statement will bring up many questions, particularly this: "But don't I hate my sin? Doesn't it grieve me? Do I not want to stop, truly, I want to please God ... does not my soul groan in me while I am sinning?"

This all may be so. And rejoice if it is so! Because if sin did not grieve your spirit then Christ would not be in you. But as the scripture says, "the wrath (anger) of man does not work the righteousness of God."

In terms of having victory over sin, even sins against the body; it is not a question of whether you hate sin (though you ought to) but the fact that God hates sin and He hates those who practice sin! He will chastise His sons and daughters because His wrath does work righteousness! For His wrath was appeased in the sufferings of Christ!

Therefore we also ought to gird ourselves with the same mind that was in Christ Jesus, as it is written, "the one who suffers in the flesh has ceased from sin."

On the one hand, we have here, suffering in the flesh because the flesh cries out "SATISFY MY LUSTS! FEED ME!" But Jesus tenderly whispers, "My Grace is sufficient for you. Come all you who labor and are heavy-laden and I will give you rest for your souls."


And as Paul also said, the world is crucified to me -- the world is a crude, vile, rotting corpse to me (we can't be tempted by something we hate). And again, I am crucified to the world -- I am a crude, vile, rotting corpse to the world. Because Christ is in me and the world as hated Him from the beginning. What fellowship has light with darkness?


Therefore, let us continue to suffer in the flesh as one who suffers in the throws of death. For we purposely put to death the deeds of the flesh and keep it under foot! And let us be no longer conformed to the image of the world with the lusts therein. But be transformed by the renewing of our minds to the affections of Christ Jesus; that we live the rest of our lives in the flesh by the Spirit of Him. And love one another even as He so loved us and gave Himself for us. (No greater love has any man, than that he lay down his life for his brothers -- all those whom Christ died for.)


(My apologies if I got hasty in my thought, I have to be at work in 5 minutes :) But this is more important!)

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Brothertom wrote:
I have a Christian friend, who has three daughters, who lives in in a city of 150,000 in Northern California. His girls are grown, and on their own, and one by one, they moved in with nonchristian young men to live, without a marriage covenant.

These girls, though, kept up their fellowship in various churches in that community, attending regularly on Sundays. My friend became frustrated, as there was never a confrontation. It seemed as though the Pastors accepted their lifestyles as normal. He then decided to confront these elders, and he did, asking them why?, with an open Bible.

The answers he received were similar from each leader. "That's not my business. The word will convict, not I" Not one Pastor would budge.

One can only guess why. Here is my guess...


Here's my guess too, BroTom... they themselves are dealing with some sort of sexual sin as well. It's hard to out right convict someone else of that particular sin when you are having trouble with it is well OR giving in to it.

But that's just my opinion. I'm sure that's not true with all of them (possibly not), only God knows.

God bless,

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