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Who is the Great Pearl? Christ or We?

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roadsign Jul 21, 2008

"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.

"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it. Matt. 13: 44- 46

Who is the precious treasure in these two parables? Of course, we all assume that it is Jesus.

However, I have recently been challenged to rethink this assumption (which I will explain later). Could the treasure not possibly be souls for the kingdom, and the “man” be Christ? This would make sense in context of Matthew 13: The “man” in all the other parables is Christ: He is the sower of seed, he is the one who planted the mustard seed in the field; he is the harvester. Clearly Christ is the one doing the action and humans are the ones receiving the action. In the parable of the lost coin and the lost sheep, we see this emphasis again. We see it in many other scriptures:

"I have loved you with an everlasting love;
I have drawn you with unfailing kindness. Jer. 31:3

”I will search for the lost and bring back the strays. I will bind up the injured and strengthen the weak, but the sleek and the strong I will destroy.” Ezekiel 34:16

”Christ redeemed us… “ Gal. 3:13

“There is no one who seeks God … But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.”
Rom. 3:11,21

Interestingly the NIV, in a footnote, tries to cover over the obvious inconsistency that is created by the traditional view, saying, “Jesus did not imply that one can purchase the kingdom with money or good deeds.” I suggest that there would be no need to say those words if we consider that the word “purchase” refers to what CHRIST did. After all, he did purchase the Kingdom with his blood.

”And they sang a new song, saying: "You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God members of every tribe and language and people and nation. ” Rev. 5:9

So why do we not see these parables that way? Could it be because the natural human bent is to put ourselves in the “actor’s” role? We place much focus on what WE are to do regarding the role of salvation. After all, much of our Christian life is “we” focused rather than Christ-focused. So when the interpretation is not explicit, as in the case of these parables, we miss it – that is - if we look through natural self view.

What d’ya think? Go back and read the parables through this different "lens". Does it fit?

Diane

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Logic Jul 21, 2008

roadsign wrote:
"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.

"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it. Matt. 13: 44- 46

Who is the precious treasure in these two parables? Of course, we all assume that it is Jesus.

Outline of Mat.13:

1) The sower of seed: Mat 13:3-8, Mat.13:19-23 (Evangelistic)

2) Wheat & tares: Mat 13:25-30, Matthew 13:38-43 (apocalyptic)

3) The mustered sead: Mat 13:31-32 (reality of the Kingdom)

4) The woman and leven: Mat 13:33 (reality of the Kingdom)

5) A treasure hid in a field:
Mat 13:44 (Evangelistic)

6) the Pearl of great price:
Mat 13:45-46 (the effect of evangelizing)

7) The Dragnet: Mat 13:47-50 (Evangelistic Apocalyptic)

The field is the world and the hidden treasure are the souls of man, that man who sold everything to buy that field is the Christian that gives his life up for the Kingdom to preach the Gosple. (Evangelistic)

The Pearl of great price is about a man who is looking for the truth and when he found Jesus, who is the Truth, went and sold all that he had, and bought It. (the effect of evangelizing) Proverb 23:23 & Job 28:12 & Job 28:18 & Mat 7:6

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HeartSong Jul 21, 2008

Christ through man is seeking to find Christ in man.
It is circular.

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DelightedInU Jul 21, 2008

I've always believed that the treasure and the pearl both are us sinners and the man that sells everything is God who paid the price with His Son.

But now that I think about it, I think I've thought too that it is Christians that find the truth of God, Jesus, and give up everything to follow Christ, our treasure.

Yeah, I guess I've heard both views at different times and both make sense..... Interesting.

sermonindex Jul 21, 2008

Marvelous, Marvelous, Marvelous Diane. Absolutely....I see it! It is absolutely in keeping with the thought that the Gospel is God seeking sinners through His Word.

Clearly Christ is the one doing the action and humans are the ones receiving the action.

Absolutely...Hebrews even says as much...

Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear (Heb 12:28)


It is counter to our natural thinking (because of course we are fallen, and our minds need to be renewed) but it is True.

Thank you Diane, I cannot wait to go read the parables now in this light.

Michael (Mahoney)

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PaulWest Jul 22, 2008

It is an interesting slant, if unconventional...but completely valid. I remember I was first alerted to this concept through a message by T Austin Sparks:

[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=44]A Pearl of Great Price[/url]

Sparks expounds upon what Diane has brought up here in a most profound fashion: Christ being the man, the pearl being His church. Highly recommended.

Brother Paul

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tjservant Jul 22, 2008

I like it. I like it a lot. Thanks for sharing this.

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roaringlamb Jul 22, 2008

And to think the Lutherans have held this view for about 500 years now! ;-)

sermonindex Jul 22, 2008

I believe Christ is the man searching. We love Him because He first loved us. He gave ALL and shed His blood to purchase me when I didn't even know who He was. He found me when I wasn't even looking. Israel is His treasure and the Church is His Bride, represented by a pearl.

In the first parable, He is the one who discovers the treasure, which is Israel, Exodus 19:5. He hides it, then goes and sells all that He has (dies on the Cross) and purchases the field that the treasure is in, and thereby rightfully inherits the treasure. The field is the world -He purchased the whole world. But right now, during the age of grace, the treasure Israel is hidden in the midst of the world, hidden from salvation through their Messiah, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. He bought the whole world, but will one day soon unearth the treasure in that field and so "all Israel shall be saved" -Rom. 11:26.

The second (the pearl) is the Church. He doesn't hide it and then come back later for it, but buys it right away.

AW Pink has an excellent work on the parables of Matthew 13, and goes in depth into this view. You can read it here: http://www.pbministries.org/books/pink/Parables/parables.htm

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tjservant Jul 22, 2008

We love Him because He first loved us. He gave ALL and shed His blood to purchase me when I didn't even know who He was. He found me when I wasn't even looking

Amen Brother!

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Logic Jul 22, 2008

Josef_Urban wrote:
I believe Christ is the man searching.
Christ sends men out to the fields. Matthew 9:38 Pray you therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth laborers into his harvest.

However, this verse is speaking more of the treasure in the field.

The Great Pearl is about an unsaved man searching for truth and finds Christ in the process.

We love Him because He first loved us. He gave ALL and shed His blood to purchase me when I didn't even know who He was. He found me when I wasn't even looking. Israel is His treasure and the Church is His Bride, represented by a pearl.
Where in Scripture is the church described as a precious stone?

The Pearl must be the Truth(I am the truth, the light...ect...)
Proverb 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding
Mat 7:6b neither cast your pearls before swine.

In the first parable, He is the one who discovers the treasure, which is Israel , Exodus 19:5
Which it shouldn't be, but the souls of all men.
The whole Kingdom of God is not only Israel.
Furthermore, the church is the "Israel of God" Galatians 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.(Gal 3:7-9, Gal 3:29; Psalm 73:1; Isa_45:25; Hos 1:10; John 1:47; Rom 2:28-29,4:12,9:6-8, Phil 3:3, 1Pet 2:9)

He hides it
Question:
What's with the re-hiding(it was hidden, then hides it again)?
I just want to see what others say about it.

then goes and sells all that He has
Giving ones whole, entire life to "go and preach the gosple".
My friend has done this for Liberia, Africa(the field)

(dies on the Cross)
He who found the treasure(has a burden for a certain people) commits his area of evangelizing(a country or regin) to God in prayer(hides it again) to go and preach the Word of God.

The field is the world -He purchased the whole world.
What would be “the world”?
The souls in it or the Earth its self?

If it is the souls of man, He has not yet redeamed them all and only a few will be bought.
If it is the Earth its self, He already owns that, no need to buy it.

But right now, during the age of grace, the treasure Israel is hidden in the midst of the world, hidden from salvation through their Messiah, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. He bought the whole world, but will one day soon unearth the treasure in that field and so "all Israel shall be saved" -Rom. 11:26 . The second (the pearl) is the Church. He doesn't hide it and then come back later for it, but buys it right away.
Question:
Why doesn't he hide/re-hide the pearl while the treasure is hiden/re-hidden?

Matthew 19:21 go and sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.(Mark 10:21, Luk_18:22)

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roadsign Jul 22, 2008

It is an interesting slant, if unconventional...but completely valid.

You have to wonder how this “slant” became “unconventional”. Maybe it’s because we so easily associate these parables with the incident where Jesus told the rich man to sell everything. However, that is a bad fit for these parables. For one thing, the rich man was not told to use his income to buy the Savior, No! No! In fact, that was the man’s hindrance! He was trying to figure out a way to earn his way to eternity – some effort.

I see that Matthew Henry explains the “conventional” view in great detail, so maybe indirectly many of us got it from him. Interestingly, bible commentarian, Verlyn Verbrugge believes that the pearl represents the Church, and Christ is the man. Verbrugge also points out that of all precious stones, only the pearl results from an injury done to a living organism (the oyster). Certainly the living Christ suffered at a great cost to purchase us.

I believe Christ is the man searching.

It looks like from the (great!) posts here that many see this latter view as the better fit. And, really, why would Jesus give a parable that explicitly suggests that a human BUY Christ? Has that not been the greatest hindrance to the gospel over the centuries: the belief that we have to earn salvation. Christ surely would not have put such an enormous stumbling block in our path!

Only yesterday did I hear this “new” view. (new for me) It was through a message by Jackie Pullinger – a lady whom the Lord has used mightily to reach drug addicts, gangsters, and prostitutes in the Walled City in Honk Hong. When these despicable illiterate youth find Christ, they are immediately filled with the Spirit. Jesus heals them from their addiction, and they pray and prophesy. They are full of joy because of what Christ has done for them by saving them even though they are the worst sinners of the world.

Jackie said, “I let THEM interpret the Word of God to me. They know nothing about the Bible, but the Spirit shows them. I have read these parables now to hundreds of new converts over the years. I ask them who the man is and who the pearl is. One hundred percent of the time they respond this way: ‘Oh, the precious pearl is me and the man is Christ.’”

Jackie then adds in her sermon: “You probably never thought it was that way because you didn’t get it from the Spirit, right? You heard it the other way from a man.

Well, for me, that’s true. In this case I choose to receive a word from these “hundreds of converted addicts”, rather than from the experts.

I cannot wait to go read the parables now in this light.

It’s so exciting and amazing! To think that Jesus views me as a treasure! The Kingdom of Heaven: Christ's precious redeemed ones found by him!

Here is the SI link for [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=117]Jackie Pullinger[/url] sermons. I highly recommend them - if you want a Holy Ghost blessing!

Diane

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roaringlamb Jul 22, 2008

All of Scripture is a story of redemption. It all points to Christ, and not man. It is not man doing to gain, but God doing to provide for man.

Your starting point will determine your hermeneutic.

If man doing is your starting point, you will have difficulty with a Biblical view of grace presented throughout the Scriptures.

If on the other hand you use the view that Jesus Himself presented, you will see the grand and sweeping work of redemption that God has worked in Christ.

Just to provide some clues to how we should interpret Scripture look at Christ's words-

Luke 24:25 And he said to them, "O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken!
Luke 24:26 Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?"
Luke 24:27 [b]And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.[/b]

John 5:39 You search [b]the Scriptures[/b] because you think that in them you have eternal life; and [b]it is they that bear witness about me,[/b]

Scripture is Christ centered.

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4givenchris Jul 22, 2008

I too also agree that the Man searching is Christ Himself. If the man who sold all to purchase the field with the treasure (or Christ) were us, at first it might be a nice sentiment but not in terms of salvation because we cannot purchase Christ, or salvation - Jesus gave all to purchase us!

There is an interesting parallel in the OT story of Ruth and Boaz. Boaz being (a picture of Jesus), buying the field to get Ruth (the church).

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Logic Jul 22, 2008

roadsign wrote:
It is an interesting slant, if unconventional...but completely valid.
You have to wonder how this “slant” became “unconventional”. Maybe it’s because we so easily associate these parables with the incident where Jesus told the rich man to sell everything. However, that is a bad fit for these parables. For one thing, the rich man was not told to use his income to buy the Savior, No! No! In fact, that was the man’s hindrance! He was trying to figure out a way to earn his way to eternity – some effort.
The rich man was told to sell his thing so that he could follow the Savior.

Furthermore, the Pear is not the Savior, but the truth of the Gosple.

I believe Christ is the man searching.
why would Jesus give a parable that explicitly suggests that a human BUY Christ?
Again, not buying Christ, but the truth(Prov 23:23, Mat 7:6b).

Christ surely would not have put such an enormous stumbling block in our path!
First of all, parables are not literal, not exact ways of reality.
One selling all he has to follow Christ as the rich young ruler is [b]LIKE[/b] someone buying the pearl. How can someone actualy buy the truth(and sell it not)?

Furthermore, why would Christ tell us that "the kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened."

The leaven is variuos false doctrines, the "three measures of meal" are the basic true Doctrines of Christianity.

Why would Christ tell us that the kingdom of heaven is full of bad doctrines(leaven)?

Jackie then adds in her sermon: “You probably never thought it was that way because you didn’t get it from the Spirit, right? You heard it the other way from a man
No, I prayed and read it in context after years of studing and understanding the Word of God.

Did those new converts(novices 1Tim 3:6) first pray for the interp?
Are they actualy able to teach(2Tim 2:2)?

Where is it said to listen to new converts to understand the Word of God?

Just pray and ask God to reviel what they realy are of.
1) The sower of seed: Mat 13:3-8, Mat.13:19-23 (Evangelistic) Never is told who the sower is, but we know that man preaches the Gosple(sows the seed)
If it were God doing the sowing, He wouldn't sow were it wouldn't produce fruit more-less sow were devils would eat the seed.

2) Wheat & tares: Mat 13:25-30, Matthew 13:38-43 (apocalyptic)
God knows who is His, He divides at the end.

3) The mustered sead: Mat 13:31-32 (reality of the Kingdom)
mustered seads do not become trees.
This is telling us that the plant mutates into something that it shouldn't be.
The birds, as we learn are devils.
They nest in the "branches"
What are the branches in the Chruch?
Denominations!

4) The woman and leven: Mat 13:33 (reality of the Kingdom)
The leaven is variuos false doctrines, the "three measures of meal" are the basic true Doctrines of Christianity.

5) A treasure hid in a field:
Mat 13:44 (Evangelistic)
The Field is ripe for the harvest.
Pray the Lord of the harvest to send workers into the feild.
The field is the world and the hidden treasure are the souls of man who are in that feild, that man who sold everything to buy that field is the Christian that gives his life up for the Kingdom to preach the Gosple.
Furthermore, Jesus never sold anything, He gave it all up. We are never told in Scripture that Christ redeems a feild or a land.
But men go to lands to preach to the souls in the land.

6) the Pearl of great price:
Mat 13:45-46 (the effect of evangelizing)
The effect of evangelizing is the Truth being spread so that people searching for truth may find the Great Truth!
The Pearl of great price is about a man who is looking for the truth and when he found the Truth, went and sold all that he had, and bought It. Proverb 23:23 & Job 28:12 & Job 28:18 & Mat 7:6

7) Wheat and Tares explained (apocalyptic):

8) The Dragnet: Mat 13:47-50 (Apocalyptic)
God knows who is His, He divides at the end.

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Logic Jul 22, 2008

roaringlamb wrote:

If man doing is your starting point, you will have difficulty with a Biblical view of grace presented throughout the Scriptures.

Man is not my starting point.
My starting point is what the Scripture is realy saying.
My starting point is the context of the passage.
My starting point is commone sense and reality.

Since my basic starting point is Scripture its self, the whole Scritpur; context, meaning, culture of the time, setting...ect..., I am able to see what it realy is saying with out a preconcieved mindset to obscure my view.

The sower of seed: My starting point is The seed(the Word)

2) Wheat & tares: It is not pointing to Christ as you would think and as you said, "It all points to Christ, and not man."

The mustered sead: Mat 13:31-32: is the Tree that it grows into.
Mustard is not from a tree.
It is not pointing to Christ as you would think and as you said, "It all points to Christ, and not man."


The woman and leven: Mat 13:33: My starting point is the woman.
What woman would bring in leaven?
Not the Church, but a harlot.
It is not pointing to Christ as you would think and as you said, "It all points to Christ, and not man."

A treasure hid in a field Mat 13:44: My starting point is a person who sold all he has for a tresure.
Christ never sold anythig to come as man, he [b]gave[/b] it all up.
We are suposed to go and preach the Gosple, How would we go to a far land without selling what we have to fund our evangelising?

the Pearl of great price: My starting point is what a pearl is.
Matthew 7:6 is about not offering our truths(the Gosple) to those violent and abusive people who would return to their own vomit and devalue that which we value; nor to those especially debased and utterly and shamelessly immoral people who would not perceive its value, would trample it down, and would abuse you.

Luke 24:27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

John 5:39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me,

Whats your point?

All of Scripture is a story of redemption.
True, so is my point of view.
The feild is the man selling all he has to preach the gopsple so that they whom he preaches to will recieve redemption.

The pearl of great price is about a man who buys the great Truth to be saved(1Tim 2:4).
Opposit of 2Thes 2:10

It all points to Christ, and not man.
My point of view is pointing to Christ and not man, but in a diferent way.

Actualy your view points to man as the goal.

Christ serching for man which is the treasure.
That is man centered.
The pearl being the church is man centered.

My view of the tresure in the feild is man doing somthing for the advancment of the Kingdom of Christ.

My view of the Pearl is man selling all for the Truth of the Gosple, which is about Christ. This is Christ centered.
This is Christ centered.

sermonindex Jul 22, 2008

"The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.

"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it. Matt. 13: 44- 46


Who is the precious treasure in these two parables? Of course, we all assume that it is Jesus.

It is neither, though Jesus is the personification of it all. The Pearl, the Treasure is intimacy with the Father and all that it represents by union in Him. It is only open to the new born to undertake therefore it is not a picture of our salvation but of our completion in joint-heir-ship with Jesus; the result of our maturing unto son-ship in the Father. "Eye hasn't seen or ear heard nor has it entered into the heart of man what God has for those who love Him."

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roadsign Jul 22, 2008

My starting point is commone sense and reality.

Whose reality?

:-o

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Logic Jul 22, 2008

roadsign wrote:
My starting point is commone sense and reality.
Whose reality?

:-o

How many realities are there?

sermonindex Jul 22, 2008

What is the difference between reality and actuality? Shouldn't we all know and make the distinction between the two words? I believe I know and have struggled with those who don't reveal they know, who mis-read what I write as a result.

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