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How much of God do you have?

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hmmhmm Aug 13, 2008

I was working today, listening to my mp3 player, i have been going through Tozers series attributes of God. And Tozer spoke much more nicely on it then me, but some phrases i continued to meditate upon throughout the day. Now this had its origin in Tozers thoughts about Gods unlimited, infinity and never ending attribute. God is everlasting.

But paraphrased and further meditated upon, i asked myself this question, it might be a good one for you to answer also.

If we strip away all the books, all the commentaries, 22 volumes, 6 volumes and the 4 volumes also, the sermons, the music , the things that surround us so much, if we strip ourself of all that "theology" and "activity" for the Lord, they are all good and needed, but lets say we strip all that away...how much of God do you have? take away all our favorite preachers, dead ones or alive ones, how much have we ?

really?

Theology is really nothing more then knowing about God, there is a vast enormous difference from know about to know in person.

[i]But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again?[/i] Galatians 4:9 NASB

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sojourner7 Aug 13, 2008

Someone once said that he who possesses God
wants for nothing else; but I think it more
necessary that God possess us, wholly and
entirely. May we be wholly His own!!

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tjservant Aug 13, 2008

I believe good theology is needed now more than ever, but you are right, it is all for naught if this ‘knowledge of God’ does not grow us closer to Him.

How much God do you have?

Good question brother and I have another one I believe we should consider after this one.

How much God do you want?

Shortly after being saved my mother told me I could have any amount of God I wanted.
She also told me about a pastor she had when she was younger that used to tell the congregation they were as holy as they wanted to be.

Thanks for sharing this meditation brother Christian; much to think about.

sermonindex Aug 13, 2008

Now your scaring me Christian. It is the question of the ages, and maybe the emphasis of all the prophets, John the babtist, and our Lord Himself.


It is the reality of each of us entering Heaven's gate in experience, at the end of our days. It is the word, the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.


Can we accept, that an utterly illiterate man, void of all education, and even ability to read the Bible, could enter heaven above us? The bible is full of them. "I was a herdsman and fruit picker..."[an agricultural worker"...the lowest on all scales of society.] AMOS the prophet..the apostles, John, the greatest ever born of woman, did not quote much scipture...if any. He lived the spirit.


General education was not given en masse until perhaps circa 1600, and then sparsely. The vast majority of our ancestors were peasants, and farmers and manual laborers. Of course some were tradesmen, but few were elite enough to understand letters. That is 5500 years or so. This universal education thing is relatively new.


The Roman catholic church took great advantage of this, and fought tooth and nail to maintain illiteracy, and it's vulgate....latin . It would be like speaking chinese every sunday, and then interpreting as benefitted you.


Jesus said,"Whoever has EARS to hear, let him hear.....what the Spirit is saying to the Churches. Not whoever has the most knowledge, or education, but hears the Spirit.


When we see ourselves in the mirror, we should remember this post. What matters?


"God seeks those who worship Him in Spirit, and in truth." They make him happy.

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poet Aug 14, 2008

The opening statement How much of God do you have?

Since God is not a substance that we can acquire in part or partially, he is a person.
I would have to say it is always and through the ages has been how much of US are we willing to submit to God's soverign will, even unto death.
yes death on the cross... Jesus took the cross and asks us to do the same.
If we learn this one great thing, absolute submission, then what theology, or doctrine, or whatever we learn will automatically be applied to the submission of the soverign will of God.

Jesus said, that he will make his abode in us, and us in him. If we keep his commandments.
He fills us with his spirit of promise, as a seal, till the day of redemption.. Not partially but wholly...
It all comes down to how much we are willing to give of ourselves to be used by him in whatever capacity he deems important at the moment
Great question. :-)

Have you noticed some people want More. when it is actually us that needs to submit more....
God bless.

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tjservant Aug 14, 2008

Have you noticed some people want More. when it is actually us that needs to submit more....

It is truly about desire. The problem is that most do not want (desire) God bad enough to submit, deny, crucify, sacrifice...

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PaulWest Aug 14, 2008

Have you noticed some people want More. when it is actually us that needs to submit more....

Yes, this is true. Brethren, the question I am most concerned with today is how much does God have of [i]me.[/i] An immature believer asks of what more he can get from God - a maturer believer begins to ask of what more he can give to God. Even if God never graces me again with His sweet tangible presence, or blesses me financially, or gives me an anointed ministry or good longevity and health...will the primary question in the depths of my heart still be what more can I [i]give[/i] to Him?

"Get from" and "give to"; here we have two ideologies, two states of mind and purpose so diametrically different, yet wonderfully interrelated in the principle of Spirit, for when we "give ourselves to God" we invariably find we "get" all the more from Him.

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tjservant Aug 14, 2008

An immature believer asks of what more he can get from God - a maturer believer begins to ask of what more he can give to God.

Many do not want God at all; they only want what He can give. They are in it for themselves. Is this a sign of immaturity? Or are they missing something vital? I'm not sure. Like the saying goes…everyone wants to go to heaven but few want God to be there.

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Just to clarify my earlier posts. When I speak of ‘wanting God’ I am not talking about possessions and or blessings…I’m talking about desiring GOD and all that He is…and what we are willing to give/sacrifice to achieve this goal.

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PaulWest Aug 14, 2008

They are in it for themselves. Is this a sign of immaturity?

Good question. The answer to this can be found by looking back at your own walk. Immaturity is not necessarily bad; it is the normal process when embarking upon growth and maturity. You can't fault a child for acting like a child, a 10 year old for wanting to play with toy trucks instead of driving a real one.

When we first came to God, we came to get something from Him. We wanted to be saved from going to hell, this was the first and primary. In time, as we grew a bit, we realized we can get even more from Him, so we began to ask for an anointed ministry, to do miracles like Smith Wigglesworth, for material things to make our lives a little easier, and for the acceptance by men when we minister. These are all things asked during the very beginning stages of our maturity, and I think it was quite natural to ask for them in our genuine ignorance of being content in both poverty or abundance, in ministry or not, in mighty gifts or not, which is the place where God eventually leads us if we progess through the levels of His school. If we continue to let Him teach us, we'll soon arrive at a point where we are no longer concerned with having a ministry like Smith Wigglesworth - or any other man - because we want only what God's will is for our lives, and we will be content even if it ends up being in a prison with nothing at all and dying alone and anonymously with no fanfare from men or other Christians. Our only desire is to give God our all - even if He slays us and gives us nothing else in return. This is maturity.

This is how God weans and grows us. In time, we learn that true riches and joy come not from getting [i]from[/i] God, but from giving [i]to[/i] God. This truth must eventually be learned, but it is not learned overnight, nor does the Father expect you to learn it overnight. Steady growth is required, maturity; light must be increasingly given to behold its blessed validity.

That was what I implied in my first post.

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PaulWest Aug 14, 2008

Also, I'd like to mention that I am not saying mature believers do not ask God for things - I ask Him for help and knowledge, wisdom and discernment all the time. I ask him for healing. The Father wants us to ask of Him! I am only referring to the ways and conditions many believers ask of God, without offering themselves to Him first.

Believers, that is, who are old enough to know better ;-)

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